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    We used to have Fairfield make deposits for us with RCI. We faired pretty well with the exchanges pulled.

    We have all our 2008 points (370k).

    Will Wyndham still make deposits of 70, 40 and 28k?
    If so, can I expect the deposits to pull worthwhile exchanges?

    Anyone mind telling what they have used and what has been recieved recently? Send emails please as I believe loose lips sink ships.

    Robert
    Robert

  • #2
    Originally posted by RESORT2ME
    We have all our 2008 points (370k).

    Will Wyndham still make deposits of 70, 40 and 28k?
    If so, can I expect the deposits to pull worthwhile exchanges?

    Robert
    70k, 42k, 28k. It is generic deposit, so no need of real week, you can deposit unto last month of the live.

    Since it is generic, its trading value is the same no matter when you make the deposit.

    Better use only 70k and 28k. But their life is only 2 years.

    Jya-Ning
    Jya-Ning

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jya-Ning
      70k, 42k, 28k. It is generic deposit, so no need of real week, you can deposit unto last month of the live.

      Since it is generic, its trading value is the same no matter when you make the deposit.

      Better use only 70k and 28k. But their life is only 2 years.

      Jya-Ning

      1. Why do you say use only 70k and 28k. Why not 42k? or 15k for that matter.
      2. You can still make visible deposits also.
      ken H.,Ballston Lake, NY
      My photo website: www.kenharperphotos.com
      Wyndham Atlantic City, NJ 8/7-8/14/14
      Australia-New Zealand 10/15-11/2/14 (some TS some hotels)

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      • #4
        Robert,
        I have to go out for a bit this morning but will send you a PM later today. We have Wyndham points and do mostly trading.
        ken H.,Ballston Lake, NY
        My photo website: www.kenharperphotos.com
        Wyndham Atlantic City, NJ 8/7-8/14/14
        Australia-New Zealand 10/15-11/2/14 (some TS some hotels)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gophish
          1. Why do you say use only 70k and 28k. Why not 42k? or 15k for that matter.
          2. You can still make visible deposits also.
          You mean 105k right?

          42K does trading in between 28k and 70k. When try on the prime season or prime place, it trade like 28k, there is none unless there is no trading power issue. 70k you have chance to see it. At bulk space bank time, they are also behavior very similar. With now they usually see less bulk space inventory or none until a few days later, although 42k may see 1 or 2 day range more, since you are pure wait for lucky hit on, I doubt it matters.

          On shoulder and off season, 42k does see more than 28k. However, it usually not that significant. Since off season almost any dog can see everything.

          Only on overbuild area, it may see bigger difference. So it maybe you will see 5 Glod Crown in stead of 3. Since you only need 1 exchange, unless the resort really have big difference, and more selections really matter, I don't know if anyone will care.

          105k is 35k more, which if use $5 per 1K is $100 more. The problem is, it is still need other side to make deposit, and it still not that strong.

          I have an 105k deposit, When Lawren report she saw San Fransico deposit for 7 days, I have try to match it for 7 days, and everytime the VC told me they could not see it. I will trade that with Lawren's deposit Good thing I don't really need to use RCI exchange on that trip.

          As to visible deposit, I should put "If it is generic". But it is controlled by Wyndham, and I don't believe anyone get 28k at the end of the year since 2005. 70k is rarely reported. The problem for visible, is even if you put request, after a few days, it becomes generic anyway.

          Since it is close to the end of the use year, I will take control over uncertainty, but that just me.

          Jya-Ning
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          • #6
            Originally posted by RESORT2ME
            We used to have Fairfield make deposits for us with RCI. We faired pretty well with the exchanges pulled.

            We have all our 2008 points (370k).

            Will Wyndham still make deposits of 70, 40 and 28k?
            If so, can I expect the deposits to pull worthwhile exchanges?

            Anyone mind telling what they have used and what has been recieved recently? Send emails please as I believe loose lips sink ships.

            Robert
            It then appears Wyndham does allow the smaller deposits.
            Broken into 70k increments we get 5 deposits, 40k gets 9, 28k gets 13.
            Are there examples of what has been pulled? PM or email please.
            Robert

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jya-Ning
              You mean 105k right?

              42K does trading in between 28k and 70k. When try on the prime season or prime place, it trade like 28k, there is none unless there is no trading power issue. 70k you have chance to see it. At bulk space bank time, they are also behavior very similar. With now they usually see less bulk space inventory or none until a few days later, although 42k may see 1 or 2 day range more, since you are pure wait for lucky hit on, I doubt it matters.

              On shoulder and off season, 42k does see more than 28k. However, it usually not that significant. Since off season almost any dog can see everything.

              Only on overbuild area, it may see bigger difference. So it maybe you will see 5 Glod Crown in stead of 3. Since you only need 1 exchange, unless the resort really have big difference, and more selections really matter, I don't know if anyone will care.

              105k is 35k more, which if use $5 per 1K is $100 more. The problem is, it is still need other side to make deposit, and it still not that strong.

              I have an 105k deposit, When Lawren report she saw San Fransico deposit for 7 days, I have try to match it for 7 days, and everytime the VC told me they could not see it. I will trade that with Lawren's deposit Good thing I don't really need to use RCI exchange on that trip.

              As to visible deposit, I should put "If it is generic". But it is controlled by Wyndham, and I don't believe anyone get 28k at the end of the year since 2005. 70k is rarely reported. The problem for visible, is even if you put request, after a few days, it becomes generic anyway.

              Since it is close to the end of the use year, I will take control over uncertainty, but that just me.

              Jya-Ning
              Please explain this OTHER SIDE.
              Robert

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              • #8
                Thinking Outloud

                Am I thinking straight?

                With 371k we can take 3, maybe 4, 'Whatever is Available' Wyndham stays.

                By making deposits of three 105k & one 42k, we get about the same but we pay the exchange fee each time.

                The four deposits allows for a longer period in which to take the trips. We will pay $656 for the "priviledge" of taking 'Whatever is Available' RCI vacations.
                Robert

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RESORT2ME View Post
                  Please explain this OTHER SIDE.
                  RCI does not own these deposit, it has to depend on the resort deposit them.

                  There are several situations
                  1. small resort, few owner actually deposit to exchange company, for example, I seldomly saw RCI get Maine deposit at summer
                  2. the Resort management company control the deposit process, so some of the inventory you will not be able to see, for example, you will not see 3 BD deposit by Wyndham, and DC resort will only see it if Wyndham want to attract other excahnge owners to buy their new DC points.
                  There are other situations which will prevent the deposit get to RCI exchange pool, but that is not important, usuaully, the better the location, the better the quality of resort, the better the time slot, (based on rental market) the more likely you will not see it in RCI exchange pool.

                  Originally posted by RESORT2ME View Post
                  Am I thinking straight?

                  With 371k we can take 3, maybe 4, 'Whatever is Available' Wyndham stays.

                  By making deposits of three 105k & one 42k, we get about the same but we pay the exchange fee each time.

                  The four deposits allows for a longer period in which to take the trips. We will pay $656 for the "priviledge" of taking 'Whatever is Available' RCI vacations.
                  RCI deposit, season is more important than size.

                  42k is not really better too much than 28k. And 105k in a lot of sitatuion, maynot be better than 28k also.

                  A very simple example is say you want to use it to an overbuild, no protection from RCI area, 105k may get you 10 gold crown, 28k will get you 5 gold crown, since you only stay in one place, 105k is the same as 28k.

                  105k does "see" much more than 28k or 70k in that sense. But I don't believe at this moment, you are looking for difficulty trade.

                  And as you note yourself, it can get you trip in Wyndham internally, while if you use RCI trade, you add another $164 exchange fee with all the restriction on exchange rule, so usually, it does not make sense to do that especially, if your reason is because you are at the end of year, and can not use these point. Unless you don't have time to take these vacations.

                  So if you only expect to be able to take 3 vacation in next 2 years, you may have to make 3 105k deposit, and forget about the rest of the point

                  Jya-Ning
                  Jya-Ning

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