Christmas Mountain Village Questions

[SOS8260456 Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close SOS8260456]

If a purchase a week (which backs the allocated points) that has been converted or upgraded to points then I will be enrolled in the points program and get a free weeks membership as well?

You must all be thinking how dumb is this guy? Why I can not get my ahead around this is beyond me. It seems no matter how many times I go through this there is still some confusion.

I guess where my confusion lies is that TPU happened AFTER points correct? Why are so many more people using it than points?

Long and short, it looks like it is better to a be a points owner, I think!

Remember, Bluegreen points and Wyndham points are totally different from RCI points. Owning Bluegreen or Wyndham points only gives you access to their internal points systems. When you use those points to trade through RCI or II, you "purchase" a week from Bluegreen/Wyndham at whatever point cost Bluegreen/Wyndham assigns to it (the point cost will depend on demand season and unit size) and then give that week to RCI or II to exchange. Thus trading a week for a week.

TPU did come after the RCI points system. I think more people may use the TPU system because they don't have access to the RCI points system. You need to own a RCI points timeshare week in order to have access to RCI points.

From what I have read and observed when doing searches is that it will vary on which one is better to own. Some trades cost more using points while others cost more using TPU. That is why some people will own both types so they can keep their options open and utilize whichever one will work best. If you find one system consistently works best for your needs, you may only want to work within that one system.

Most owners get frustrated with their timeshares because it does take time to learn how to use them most effectively, especially those who have paid a large amount and been told that it would soooo easy to go where they wanted to when they wanted to.

Lisa from PA

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

See that is why I thought BG had access to the weeks side as well, but oh well.

Yes, you confused me a little more!

Actually, I think based on my reading if I am correct;

Purchasing a week that has not been converted to a points unit will get me access to RCI, and ONLY TPU.

If a purchase a week (which backs the allocated points) that has been converted or upgraded to points then I will be enrolled in the points program and get a free weeks membership as well?

You must all be thinking how dumb is this guy? Why I can not get my ahead around this is beyond me. It seems no matter how many times I go through this there is still some confusion.

I guess where my confusion lies is that TPU happened AFTER points correct? Why are so many more people using it than points?

Long and short, it looks like it is better to a be a points owner, I think!

Tom, we are talking apples and oranges here. The blended UDI units come with BG points not RCI points. There are lots of points out there. You don't get RCI points with either a regular UDI nor a blended UDI ownership.

If you want to use the points for deposit option for RCI points you will need to own a unit elsewhere that is already in RCI points. That's why I suggested a triennial to keep your fees cheap. I know people who deposit their 4 CMV weeks to RCI points and get 100K plus points per year with the CMV deposits. I am averaging around $150 per week reserved including Housekeeping fees so $600 plus $24 per week to deposit to RCI points is about $700 for 100K RCI points. Not a bad MF/Points ratio. The ratio gets better the more weeks you are able to reserve and deposit.

This points for deposit has NOTHING to do with how BG points work in RCI. Those are totally two different programs.

As for why more people are using TPU's than RCI points is simple. Most have mastered the weeks model and didn't feel the need to pay 3K to upgrade their units to RCI points.

RCI points was invented to allow developers to sell an old model with a new twist. Not everyone bought so not everyone knows how they function. Most on these forums use TPU's because they were free from RCI. They in essence are another form of points.

It's like RCI has many currencies that you can trade in. Depending on the currency of your home country (resort) some things will be cheaper for some than for others. Think an American going to Mexico. Some currencies are stronger so are a better deal for those who own the strongest currencies.

[brucecz Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close brucecz]

We have a Tri annual RCI Points resort Cliffs at Peace Cayon in Las Vegas that we really no longer have use for as part of our down sizing as our Fox Hills RCI Points resort in Wisconsin does the same thing for us.
Bruce

[rapmarks Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close rapmarks]

just hit my search for March at bonnet Creek, two bedroom for my winter UDI week.

[SOS8260456 Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close SOS8260456]

just hit my search for March at bonnet Creek, two bedroom for my winter UDI week.

That's great!

[gandalf252002 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gandalf252002]

Bruce, you making an offer?

When looking at the last couple messages, I think the two kind of crossed paths, so get that we are talking apples and oranges. Maybe this is no longer the correct forum for this. I am looking at getting a trienniual RCI points resort that comes along with the free weeks account as you have suggested.

I would then get a CMV UDI and use the reservations made to either deposit to the weeks side for TPU or to the POINTS side of my RCI accounts, depending on what I was looking for and had the better value. I do understand that this CMV UDI is an entirely seperate entitity to my BG points account (it would be like I got it from somebody other than BlueGreen as it stands alone).

Not to muddy the water, but it sounds like the TPU that was implemented to the weeks side of RCI was their way of "revaluing" things in their favor. It accomplishes the same thing as the depositing for points, just using an entirely different scale.

Tom, we are talking apples and oranges here. The blended UDI units come with BG points not RCI points. There are lots of points out there. You don't get RCI points with either a regular UDI nor a blended UDI ownership.

If you want to use the points for deposit option for RCI points you will need to own a unit elsewhere that is already in RCI points. That's why I suggested a triennial to keep your fees cheap. I know people who deposit their 4 CMV weeks to RCI points and get 100K plus points per year with the CMV deposits. I am averaging around $150 per week reserved including Housekeeping fees so $600 plus $24 per week to deposit to RCI points is about $700 for 100K RCI points. Not a bad MF/Points ratio. The ratio gets better the more weeks you are able to reserve and deposit.

This points for deposit has NOTHING to do with how BG points work in RCI. Those are totally two different programs.

As for why more people are using TPU's than RCI points is simple. Most have mastered the weeks model and didn't feel the need to pay 3K to upgrade their units to RCI points.

RCI points was invented to allow developers to sell an old model with a new twist. Not everyone bought so not everyone knows how they function. Most on these forums use TPU's because they were free from RCI. They in essence are another form of points.

It's like RCI has many currencies that you can trade in. Depending on the currency of your home country (resort) some things will be cheaper for some than for others. Think an American going to Mexico. Some currencies are stronger so are a better deal for those who own the strongest currencies.

[sechady Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sechady]

I am new to Timeshares and will watch to see what people are posting before I jump in and buy.

[brucecz Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close brucecz]

When looking at the last couple messages, I think the two kind of crossed paths, so get that we are talking apples and oranges. Maybe this is no longer the correct forum for this. I am looking at getting a trienniual RCI points resort that comes along with the free weeks account as you have suggested.

I would then get a CMV UDI and use the reservations made to either deposit to the weeks side for TPU or to the POINTS side of my RCI accounts, depending on what I was looking for and had the better value. I do understand that this CMV UDI is an entirely seperate entitity to my BG points account (it would be like I got it from somebody other than BlueGreen as it stands alone).

Not to muddy the water, but it sounds like the TPU that was implemented to the weeks side of RCI was their way of "revaluing" things in their favor. It accomplishes the same thing as the depositing for points, just using an entirely different scale.

The TPU came about I think is part of the RCI lawsuit. But others on this site can better fill in the details.

Bruce