pulling trading power

[nlbrown Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close nlbrown]

I was just on to RCI.com which I can view my exchanges now and when I click a week to exchange it comes up aroun 79,000 available units to exchange. Does that mean my trading power is not that high? What would be a low number? Perhaps I'm somewhere in the middle....

Also, since we own a double unit lockoff (Upper and Lower that each sleeps 6) I was wondering if I didn't split that into two weeks, would I have a higher trading power when I deposit it into RCI? Didn't know if that made a difference. I know I wouldn't find any matches really to actually sleep 12 people, but if it would give me a higher trading power to get something better, I'd trade two weeks for one.

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I was just on to RCI.com which I can view my exchanges now and when I click a week to exchange it comes up aroun 79,000 available units to exchange. Does that mean my trading power is not that high? What would be a low number? Perhaps I'm somewhere in the middle....

Also, since we own a double unit lockoff (Upper and Lower that each sleeps 6) I was wondering if I didn't split that into two weeks, would I have a higher trading power when I deposit it into RCI? Didn't know if that made a difference. I know I wouldn't find any matches really to actually sleep 12 people, but if it would give me a higher trading power to get something better, I'd trade two weeks for one.

It's hard to say what 79K means without knowing when the deposit expires and whether or not you deposited 12 months before your check-in date.

My experience with a lockoff is the the split deposits have the same trade power as the combined deposit. So you can have two separate deposits that see 79K or one combined deposit that sees 79K. My lockoff was a winter beach week so maybe if you have a prime season lockoff it would be different.

[Spence Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Spence]

It would be foolish to deposit the entire lockoff as one unit. RCI will not reward you.

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

How far in advance of check-in did you deposit this week, what week did you deposit and what are the start and end dates RCI shows to find an exchange?

That is the only way we can guess at what you are seeing.

Very strong traders deposited 12 month or more from check-in date and run thru june 2011 are seeing around 170k. Another strong trader deposited a year out but only runs thru July 2010 sees 113k while the same week, same deposit criteria that expires July 2012 sees 151k. So you see where the number of exchanges has no bearing on what the strength is without the rest of the data.

I daresay a Massanutten non-peak season is NOT going to fall into that strata of trade power but it may be a good enough trader that you will find something you want.

[EAM Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close EAM]

Even with a poor trader, you should be able to find someplace that sleeps twelve. The catch is that it will be in the off season, e.g. Outer Banks in winter, or far off the beaten path.
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[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

OK

after a little research back thru your other posts....

YOu don't say which of the 6 Mass resorts you own. Two are un-rated, 2 are silver crown, 2 are gold crown. Week 43 is considered red by RCI. Check-in around 24Oct. To the best of my knowledge none of the Mass resorts are points properties.

Something to consider would be buying or leasing a cheap RCI points account. You could then use these units as points for deposit instead of weeks deposits.

The reason I say this is that points are trade power nuetral. You know what you are getting and you know what your trade limitations are because they are quantified in the system.

If you own at the gold crown resorts you would get 60.5k for each 2BDRM unit which is a nice amount of points. Silver crown would net 47.5 and unrated would get 40k each.

I don't think that these resorts have a high annual maintenance fee either.

It would be an option if you are going to start needing to travel within a school calendar at any rate.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

NL:

If you would like an evaluation of your trading power, I can do that. I have a decent trader and a moderate trader.

At the bottom of the Weeks Search page you can enter a timeframe, with or without selecting an area. We can enter a date range that our weeks are good for and compare results.

It's not hard any more.

[funtime2 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close funtime2]

This is what I am seeing with a Massanutten Woodstone Lux lockoff (only 1 side deposited) sleep 6. This was deposited over 1 year out. It is the week before July 4, Gold crown
The available trade is for March 29 at 10am

trade June 2008-2011 124,062 available units
trade June 2009-2012 112,000 available units

Lauren, Spence or anyone that knows more than I about trading power ~ what is your opinion on the trading power

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

That's moderate.

If my brain is working, both of those are for the next 24 months. My better deposit is bouncing around 170,000; it was 168,000 this morning. My moderate deposit is 125,000, like your first one.

If the OP's 79,000 is for the next 24 months, that is low.

trade June 2008-2011 124,062 available units
trade June 2009-2012 112,000 available units

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

This is what I am seeing with a Massanutten Woodstone Lux lockoff (only 1 side deposited) sleep 6. This was deposited over 1 year out. It is the week before July 4, Gold crown
The available trade is for March 29 at 10am

trade June 2008-2011 124,062 available units
trade June 2009-2012 112,000 available units

Lauren, Spence or anyone that knows more than I about trading power ~ what is your opinion on the trading power

A good to very good moderate trader. Probably not summer outerbanks good but useable IMHO.

As Jim notes, if the OP only has 79k for the whole timeframe she is in trouble.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I play with my moderate trader and it would probably be very good for most folks. It gets many of the same places, and many of the larger units, just in times of less demand, times we can't go.

But, then it is quirky. This morning it could not get anything in Florida Southern Gulf Coast for January, but could get 11 in Hawaii for January.

I am convinced it knows what we want, based on what it used to get, and has adjusted itself accordingly.

[Kentonmag Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kentonmag]

I split my 2 bedroom lockout in Las Vegas and put it into exchange at start of March. That was only 2 months prior to its usage date.
Depending on which day for a week I got between 104K to 116K choices for each unit. Managed to get a 2 bedroom unit for each one, on consecutive weeks, at the Wyndham Kona Hawaiian Resort. I could have had 2 x 2 bedroom units for the same week, these units hold 6 people each comfortabley. I was amazed to get such a great swap.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I would not be so bold as to say that without a doubt a studio, or even the 1-bedroom portion, of a lockout will get larger units.

We have never owned a lockout, so from the standpoint of splitting one, I'm no ex-spirt. But I can speak to the trading power we have had with our studios, 1-bedroom, and two-bedroom units.

RCI is more generous/less restrictive, and in most cases more in line with real world situations than II, IMHO. There are cases in the real world where studios have more value than larger units elsewhere, so some studios trading for some 1,2, 3, 4, or even 5-bedroom units would be even up.

Our best trader was a studio, and it could get anything anyone else could get.

However, as it devalued, the first thing to go was unit size. Sometimes it would be subtle, like not being able to get a sleep 8 2-bedroom, but being able to get a sleep 6 the same week at the same resort. Or not so subtle, like no more 2 or 3 bedroom units at some resorts, just studios and 1-bedrooms.

So, based on our experience, I can't make a blanket statement about the trading power of a studio or 1-bedroom v. a 2-bedroom at the same resort the same week.

All I can say is to do it each way once and see.

[nlbrown Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close nlbrown]

How far in advance of check-in did you deposit this week, what week did you deposit and what are the start and end dates RCI shows to find an exchange?

That is the only way we can guess at what you are seeing.

Very strong traders deposited 12 month or more from check-in date and run thru june 2011 are seeing around 170k. Another strong trader deposited a year out but only runs thru July 2010 sees 113k while the same week, same deposit criteria that expires July 2012 sees 151k. So you see where the number of exchanges has no bearing on what the strength is without the rest of the data.

I daresay a Massanutten non-peak season is NOT going to fall into that strata of trade power but it may be a good enough trader that you will find something you want.

Well actually today when I went on RCI.com my available units came up as 90,000. My unit is #43 in Mass Woodstone Gold crown. It was deposited more than 12 m out and the travel dates are through Oct. 2011. Surpringly I am getting some decent matches from my ongoing search, but not the RIGHT one yet!

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

Well actually today when I went on RCI.com my available units came up as 90,000. My unit is #43 in Mass Woodstone Gold crown. It was deposited more than 12 m out and the travel dates are through Oct. 2011. Surpringly I am getting some decent matches from my ongoing search, but not the RIGHT one yet!

My guess is you will do alright IF:

You are looking for slightly shoulder season like May and the first 2 weeks of June (think bright pink not red) for areas that have good supply with an on-going search. Think Myrtle, N Myrtle, HHI. Because you changed your search (but had the insurance) you should be OK if you can take up to the last minute to decide and have not focused on a couple of very specific resorts for exact check-in dates. It is something I term RCI roulette.

Many are not in the same boat. They are not looking for a driveable location and have to commit to air.

What a lot of people do not realize is RCI will keep matching you until 7 days before check-in but only if the on-going search had been initiated and left in place. There are a lot of cancellations and you may very well get lucky if you wait them out.

Keep us posted. I am quite interested in how you make out.