Article promoting "legitimate" resale sites..

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Legitimate Timeshare Resale Sites - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com

Not what I'd consider a well researched article, but I thought it might create a little discussion that while old hat to individuals who have experience with forums- might be educational for newbies..

Also, for those that do not know, the money4timeshare site mentioned in the article is one of the sites for IA Vacations- who were recently mentioned in this post

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...roup-scam.html

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Pdg

I wonder why you would post that after all the negative things you all have said about IA?

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I wonder why you would post that after all the negative things you all have said about IA?

PDG you received a warning about opening shill accounts from me and yet you do it again after you were warned so now I am giving you a warning in Public. Do it again and you will be banned.

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Ok

They aren't "shills" and you can call them yourself and see physical documented proof of business well done. This "shill" crap is getting annoying. You may want to tell those other moderators to back off because this isn't the only forum out there and we can discuss timeshare business elsewhere if you prefer?.

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They aren't "shills" and you can call them yourself and see physical documented proof of business well done. This "shill" crap is getting annoying. You may want to tell those other moderators to back off because this isn't the only forum out there and we can discuss timeshare business elsewhere if you prefer?.

Our system is never wrong it knows when you are opening more than one account and places it into a mod Que. BTW I believe you mentioned you were not going to post here again, That was about 20 posts ago.

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Once

Our system is never wrong it knows when you are opening more than one account and places it into a mod Que. BTW I believe you mentioned you were not going to post here again, That was about 20 posts ago.

That one account was an accident by my co-worker Ron Singleton. He thought we were addressing your forum as a team from the same PDG account and he was gonna answer some posts himself. I understand your assumption but what about the client post you deleted. She will back us up 100% on TV, Radio, whatever that we are awesome and we have others too!!!

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That one account was an accident by my co-worker Ron Singleton. He thought we were addressing your forum as a team from the same PDG account and he was gonna answer some posts himself. I understand your assumption but what about the client post you deleted. She will back us up 100% on TV, Radio, whatever that we are awesome and we have others too!!!

OK so now we can talk since you admitted about your co worker. Which is one of 2.
What post are you talking about that was removed, We do not remove posts unless they are spam.

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These Posts

OK so now we can talk since you admitted about your co worker. Which is one of 2.
What post are you talking about that was removed, We do not remove posts unless they are spam.

The testimony from LFalabella is missing though,

Dear PDG,

You are subscribed to the thread "Timeshare transfer companies" by HassieRiver, there have been 6 post(s) to this thread, the last poster was PDG.
http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...companies.html

These following posts were made to the thread:
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Shill?
http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...tml#post374355
Posted by: PDG
On: 02-28-2010 12:49 PM

You half wits are calling a real client a shill. That's amusing. But it is not amusing that you treat someone new to TS4MS badly with your name calling and false accusations. We asked her to post and will ask other happy clients to post too from now and there is gonna be alot so get ready! As far as picking on what she did or didn't say, she can say whatever she feels like! Welcome to America! Many timeshares we accept for free and some can't be donated and cost some money to get rid of. I thought you knew that already? I guess you weren't paying attention. If all anyone had was you for help they would be in trouble.
P.S. You're negative comments about our company have only brought us more business and higher search engine rankings, thanks.
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http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...tml#post374363
Posted by: tonyg
On: 02-28-2010 02:56 PM


---Quote (Originally by PDG)---
YWe asked her to post and will ask other happy clients to post too from now and there is gonna be alot so get ready!
---End Quote---
So it was a shill then. I'm ready- one click and they are gone !
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Infraction
http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...tml#post374364
Posted by: PDG
On: 02-28-2010 03:00 PM

I just got this infraction:

Dear PDG,

You have received a new private message at Timeshare Forums from tonyg, entitled "You have received an infraction at Timeshare Forums".

To read the original version, respond to, or delete this message, you must log in here:
http://www.timeshareforums.com/forums/private.php

This is the message that was sent:
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Dear PDG,

You have received an infraction at Timeshare Forums.

Reason: Insulted Other Member(s)
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If you can't follow the rules, you will have to go sooner or later.
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This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

I'm wondering if you gave yourself an infraction for insulting our client and new forum member?

I could care less if you delete us now. You don't even respect the consumer.
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Shill
http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...tml#post374365
Posted by: PDG
On: 02-28-2010 03:06 PM


---Quote (Originally by tonyg)---
So it was a shill then. I'm ready- one click and they are gone !
---End Quote---
Shill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Shill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
A shill is person who is paid to help another person or organization to sell goods or services. The shill pretends to have no association with the seller/group and gives onlookers the impression that he or she is an enthusiastic customer. The person or group that hires the shill is using crowd psychology, to encourage other onlookers or audience members (who are unaware of the set-up) to purchase said goods or services. Shills are often employed by confidence artists. The term plant is also used. The term is also used to describe a person who is paid to help a political party or other advocacy organization to gain adherents; as with the situation of selling goods or services, the shill gives the impression of being unrelated to the group in question, and gives the impression that he or she finds merit in the ideological claims of the political party.

Shilling is illegal in many circumstances and in many jurisdictions[1] because of the frequently fraudulent and damaging character of their actions. However, if a shill does not place uninformed parties at a risk of loss, but merely generates "buzz", the shill's actions may be legal. For example, a person planted in an audience to laugh and applaud when desired (see claque), or to participate in on-stage activities as a "random member of the audience", is a type of legal shill.

"Shill" can also be used pejoratively to describe a critic who appears either all-too-eager to heap glowing praise upon mediocre offerings, or who acts as an apologist for glaring flaws. In this sense, they would be an implicit "shill" for the industry at large, possibly because their income is tied to its prosperity. The origin of the term shill is uncertain; it may be an abbreviation of the Yiddish shillaber. The word originally denoted a carnival worker who pretended to be a member of the audience in an attempt to elicit interest in an attraction. Some sources trace the usage only back to 1914.[2][3]

According to the actual definition of "shill" you are absolutely wrong.
That was an actual client that we helped and paid them nothing to write that post. They were happy to write it for free as you can tell by their message. Everyone can see how you treat the consumer now. You accused a nice honest lady of basically being a liar and I am not surprised one bit.
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http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...tml#post374371
Posted by: tonyg
On: 02-28-2010 03:18 PM

According to Webster: An accomplice to a peddler, gambler, etc.
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ok
http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...tml#post374372
Posted by: PDG
On: 02-28-2010 03:20 PM


---Quote (Originally by tonyg)---
According to Webster: An accomplice to a peddler, gambler, etc.
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Yeah, well thanks for proving my point. We deliver the results so obviously we are none of the above.


All the best,
Timeshare Forums

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Singled Out

There are terrible companies out there that should be singled out and we aren't one of them.

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There are terrible companies out there that should be singled out and we aren't one of them.

You had a few Mods on your side but I have to be honest when new accounts start to be open that makes you look real bad.

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There is no member with the name LFalabella I do not know what you are talking about a missing post.

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Sure

You had a few Mods on your side but I have to be honest when new accounts start to be open that makes you look real bad.

I understand and noones perfect but we aren't scammers, shucksters, con artists, or many of the other names we've been called.

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I'll try to find a screen shot.

She probally got scared off.

ANY idea who sunshine009 is because they posted a year ago and was pushing your company and it might just be a funny mistake but they have your ip. Care to explain that one. Here is the nice thread untouched.

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...tml#post374933

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LFalabella

There is no member with the name LFalabella I do not know what you are talking about a missing post.

This was it: It was in a timeshare transfer forum, TonyG was moderator:
link:

> Timeshare Forums - Powered by vBulletin
> ownership/100811-property-donation-group-scam-8.html
>

> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM, wrote:
>
> > Hi Ron,
> > We have received all pertinent paperwork and are breathing a
> sigh of
> > relief. Our timeshare was an albatross around our necks and
> we didn't
> > believe we would ever be able to remove it. We want to thank
> you so much
> > for your help. Property donations has responded to all our
> emails and
> > answered all our questions even when we had difficulty
> contacting other
> > parties involved. There were times when I was skeptical, but
> all is well
> > that ends well. I cannot thank you enough for helping us
> remove this burden
> > from our life. I would recommend Property Donations to others
> who feel
> > the burden of a timeshare in their life.
> > Thank you,
> > Michael and Linda Falabella

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Ok

ANY idea who sunshine009 is because they posted a year ago and was pushing your company and it might just be a funny mistake but they have your ip. Care to explain that one. Here is the nice thread untouched.

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...tml#post374933

That was one of our first clients that came by to thank us. Wow, that was long ago.