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  • #16
    Originally posted by tonyg
    If they are full, they are not overbuilt so unless there is high availabilty on Sanibel and captive they are not overbuilt. There are timeshares in Cuba-either complete or under construction or both.
    Tony: There isn't much room on either island to locate more timeshares. Captiva is relatively small and Ding Darling National Wildlife Refuge takes up most of the undeveloped parts of Sanibel.

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    • #17
      Southern California Coast. I'd love to see some larger resorts near the ocean, more like the kind you can find in Hawaii, between LA and San Diego. Right now FSA and NCV are really the only ones I can think of that fit that bill.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BWolf
        Tony: There isn't much room on either island to locate more timeshares. Captiva is relatively small and Ding Darling National Wildlife Refuge takes up most of the undeveloped parts of Sanibel.
        Bruce- just saying that the demand part of overbuilt isn't met there.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by tonyg
          Bruce- just saying that the demand part of overbuilt isn't met there.
          Understood. But I suspect the locals would lynch anyone who tried to build another timeshare.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wwomant View Post
            Southern California Coast. I'd love to see some larger resorts near the ocean, more like the kind you can find in Hawaii, between LA and San Diego. Right now FSA and NCV are really the only ones I can think of that fit that bill.
            That is not going to happen. California has very tough regulations on coastal development and the cost of development is very high.
            John

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JWC
              That is not going to happen. California has very tough regulations on coastal development and the cost of development is very high.
              Yeah, I know, but if I had a TS wish list, that's what would be on it.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by JWC
                That is not going to happen. California has very tough regulations on coastal development and the cost of development is very high.
                The cost of beachfront property means that many places the liklihood of new beachfront resorts has really gone down. The last resort built on the OBX was off the beach, indeed not even good walking distance to the beach, due to land costs. Peppertree had bought a new OBX resort site they had sold out from under them when they got in financial trouble and it was well off the beach. Fairfield was also a few years ago looking for a new OBX resort site and concluded that there were no oceanfront options, so they were looking off the beach.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Carolinian
                  The cost of beachfront property means that many places the liklihood of new beachfront resorts has really gone down. The last resort built on the OBX was off the beach, indeed not even good walking distance to the beach, due to land costs. Peppertree had bought a new OBX resort site they had sold out from under them when they got in financial trouble and it was well off the beach. Fairfield was also a few years ago looking for a new OBX resort site and concluded that there were no oceanfront options, so they were looking off the beach.
                  A big advantage to the coastal California resorts is the beach is not the only attraction. Not being right on the beach is not a big handicap because there is so much to do and see that is not beach related.
                  John

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Carolinian
                    The cost of beachfront property means that many places the liklihood of new beachfront resorts has really gone down. The last resort built on the OBX was off the beach, indeed not even good walking distance to the beach, due to land costs. Peppertree had bought a new OBX resort site they had sold out from under them when they got in financial trouble and it was well off the beach. Fairfield was also a few years ago looking for a new OBX resort site and concluded that there were no oceanfront options, so they were looking off the beach.
                    I know the challenges and expense of building beachfront in CA makes a new beachfront resort location unlikely, but I think FSA proves that people can be very happy even if it's in easy driving distance from the ocean. I love Welk Escondido, and it has a lot of availability, but it's just a little too far from the beach. It would be great if there could be some more large resorts even within 10-15 minutes driving distance of the beach.

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                    • #25
                      Some of the "underbuilt" places listed above lack timeshares because they are extremely seasonal.

                      I think Alaska is a good example. Realistically, the resort would be high demand for two months, moderate demand for perhaps three more months, and with no demand for six to seven months. Add to that the high cost of living factors.

                      The reason there aren't timeshares in Alaska is because the economics dont' work out. That's not the same as "underbuilt".
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                      • #26
                        There could certainly be some more urban properties but there are a few factors that limit them. One is the cost and second is there just aren't that many cities that would attract many people for a week. There has to be a reasonable downtown area and local attractions.
                        John

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                        • #27
                          NY city, Boston, Philly and Washington D.C. seem top be the most desirable Cities, Tho SF and some others might also fit the bill. In the northeast demand is summer and shoulder only, unless there's a ski slope around.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by JWC
                            There could certainly be some more urban properties but there are a few factors that limit them. One is the cost and second is there just aren't that many cities that would attract many people for a week. There has to be a reasonable downtown area and local attractions.
                            I agree. IMHO, the best solution for timesharing in urban areas is for timeshares to affiliate with existing hotels.
                            Jim

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by tonyg View Post
                              NY city, Boston, Philly and Washington D.C. seem top be the most desirable Cities, Tho SF and some others might also fit the bill. In the northeast demand is summer and shoulder only, unless there's a ski slope around.
                              San Francisco and San Diego are definitely desirable cities. Both of them already have downtown timeshares. I think Seattle could be added for the summer. I don't believe that I would want to stay a whole week in either Philadelphia or Washington DC. I have visited both cities.
                              John

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JWC View Post
                                San Francisco and San Diego are definitely desirable cities. Both of them already have downtown timeshares. I think Seattle could be added for the summer. I don't believe that I would want to stay a whole week in either Philadelphia or Washington DC. I have visited both cities.
                                Worldmark has a timeshare in Seattle. They own "The Camlin" While I wouldn't stay a week in Seattle, best thing abut Worldmark is you can "string together" a 7 (or more) day stay. I'd love to do Seattle, Victoria, Vancover. WM has units in all those places.

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