Speaking of Timesharing Being Better Than Hotels and Motels . . .

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Here are reviews about an Orlando timeshare resort. Unless things have changed, it is owned and operated by a company we all know and love.


GHETTO! - Do NOT stay here. I got to the hotel at noon only to find a sign on the front desk door telling me the "staff" was out to lunch. When I called the contact number, the "manager" told me she wouldn't be back for "at least another hour." So I sat in the parking lot. Alone. In the Orlando heat. To make a long story short, I finally got checked in (the manager/front desk girl -name rhymes with ... Gessica- had gold grills, which should've been a huge warning sign) I pull back the bed sheets, and there's a dead bug on my pillow. In addition to the stench of the room. I ran out of there and never looked back.

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I need to preface this with, I am a timeshare owner and did not want to lose my week so I booked my home resort for a business trip. Boy was that a mistake. The front desk is only open from 8-5. I was flying in late on Monday so I did make arrangements that evening to get into my room. When I went to the front desk at 8am the next morning....no one there. Called the emergency number and they said someone was on the way. Finally at 8:30 someone arrived. Bad customer service.... The rooms - Old fixtures and very few fixtures at that. The rooms are not comfortable although the King bed was OK. The room was clean but the all of the old fixtures looks stained and run down. The pool is small and never used. The Neighborhood is not good at all . There is a security guard that roams the property all night and it is a good thing. This part of Orlando is not safe at night. This timeshare week was a gift given to me years ago. I always trade and now I know why I trade for another resort every year. DO NOT STAY HERE .

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The place is a Poorly run timeshare condo rented by an hour, is far from anyplace, incl the airport. there is no place to eat within walking distance, either. The rooms are impersonal, staff inflexible and poorly trained. No Internet access.absolutely nothing compelling. A big mistake.

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all i can say is that when i arrived and looked at the place, its just horrible . interval international should take this place out of their resort list. that place its not a resort people actually live there. the matresses had blood stains and body fluids all over. the place is a big giant roach dumpster. the place needs to be closed down.

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Don't go! The place is roach infested and smells terrible. Duck and cover or run and hide as roaches climb in between your bed sheets! The place is filthy and looks like a neglected shack of a place. If you go, ask for your money back, we did!! Sincerely, A concerned Individual with a horrible experience P.S.- The black "marks" on the floor are the remenants of bad cleaning, bad maintance and the countlesspeople steping on (killing) roaches. If you ... don't want to get even more distgusted, don't move the couch 'cause there's bound to be hundreds crawling all over the place!
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This place was not well kept. Staff leaves after dark. Customer service is rude. No on site security. Room keys did not work. Had to call sherrifs dept to gain access to room so we could leave. Was approached by both prostitues and drug dealers on site in front of my family.

[billymach4 Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close billymach4]

Has to be Wastegate?

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

Was approached by both prostitues and drug dealers on site in front of my family.

i wanna hear more about this place!

[billymach4 Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close billymach4]

Club Orlando - All-Suite Resort in Orlando Fl Florida near SeaWorld, Universal Orlando and Disney World


Where's my prize.... No I don't want a free week here!

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Wow!

See, if someone wants to find the facts, they can.

I know more than I care to know about the place and purposely did not include links or name names.

As the reviews show, there is a lot of ugly in Orlando, and a person needs to know where they're going and what will be there.

Even that does not always help.

It is an international destination for all types.

Florida has a lot of beauty and it is misleading that Orlando is what so many know it by.

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

Unfortunately there are timeshares that because of the decline of a neighborhood should probably be dissolved. Kissimmee has been going downhill for the last 20 years and is the reason why I purchased Disney Vacation Club. I still love to go to Disney but didn't like staying in Kissimmee anymore, so sought out a solution to my problem and DVC worked out to be the solution. Since then I've found others, but it's a compelling reason to buy direct from the Mouse for sure and is the only developer purchase that I did and do not regret so doing even almost 10 years later.

It only took one shooting in the Econo Lodge while I was sleeping and the swat team surrounded the motel on 192 to convince me that I was no longer staying in Kissimmee.

Why don't you post the reviews for Bonnet Creek instead? A resort that has security and a good location and seems to have many happy guests and owners. There are 758 reviews there. Only 8 reviews at the other roach motel. Of the 758 reviews, 422 said it was excellent, 200 said it was very good, 67 said it was average and the rest rated it lower. Better yet, I'll post a link. Maybe Bonnet Creek will look like the roach place in 30 years but in the meantime it's definitely affordable luxury for Mouse stays and it's only sold as points.
Wyndham Bonnet Creek Resort (Orlando, FL) - Resort Reviews - TripAdvisor

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

Of course there are some horrible resorts out there. However, it turns out that the plural of "anecdote" is not "data".

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

Unfortunately there are timeshares that because of the decline of a neighborhood should probably be dissolved. Kissimmee has been going downhill for the last 20 years and is the reason why I purchased Disney Vacation Club. I still love to go to Disney but didn't like staying in Kissimmee anymore, so sought out a solution to my problem and DVC worked out to be the solution. Since then I've found others, but it's a compelling reason to buy direct from the Mouse for sure and is the only developer purchase that I did and do not regret so doing even almost 10 years later.

It only took one shooting in the Econo Lodge while I was sleeping and the swat team surrounded the motel on 192 to convince me that I was no longer staying in Kissimmee.

Why don't you post the reviews for Bonnet Creek instead? A resort that has security and a good location and seems to have many happy guests and owners. There are 758 reviews there. Only 8 reviews at the other roach motel. Of the 758 reviews, 422 said it was excellent, 200 said it was very good, 67 said it was average and the rest rated it lower. Better yet, I'll post a link. Maybe Bonnet Creek will look like the roach place in 30 years but in the meantime it's definitely affordable luxury for Mouse stays and it's only sold as points.
Wyndham Bonnet Creek Resort (Orlando, FL) - Resort Reviews - TripAdvisor

If you post ONLY the 60 worst reviews on bonnet creek it'll look as bad as this place...

[gandalf252002 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gandalf252002]

Enough negative bashing

This will be my only post on this matter, so hopefully I do not offend anyone, or burn any bridges.

I am not sure why you are so negative JLB, and why you have such a bee in your bonnet but I was always taught as a child if you do not have something nice to say, do not say anything at all. Why you have this hate on for "Wastegate" as you call them and timesharing is beyond me, but your negativity in my eyes is not welcomed. Other than stirring the pot, what exactly was your point behind this post?

As you have, so eloquently pointed out

See, if someone wants to find the facts, they can.

I noticed in your rant that ALL you pointed out were the negative reviews, however what about the positive reviews. Not going to waste my time, but if I had all the free time on my hands that you do to be so bitter, I could surely find some properties in all the other systems that have negative reviews. It must be a horrible life being as angry as you appear to be. I am not saying they have the best properties, but everything is relative. Owner or non-owner.

Let me also point out that when sorted by most popular, three other Westgate Resort properties take the top spots, although not “rated” as highly as other four & 5 star properties.

Then again, how about the fact that the property he is referring to was also rated HIGHER then the nearby Wyndham Property, why did you not pick apart that one (don't bother, I won't read it)

Alternatively, how about that of the 478 properties listed, there were hundreds of properties with LOWER ratings, then this resort.

From the exact same website, you took yours from how about the following four and five star reviews;

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"Wonderful experience"....I miss it!

The resort was very clean and a rather nice place. It has a kitchen so you can save alot of money by going to the supermarket and the stores are right near the resort,a 5 minute walk. There is apool which is clean,an onsite laundry room and a tennis court. The only concern is that the resort is in a ghetto area of florida,however im from new york so theres no place in the U.S. worse than N.Y when it comes to being ghetto. The reason I said the area is a cause for concern is because there are alot of drug addicts in the area but not in the resort. There are strip clubs which are 5 minutes away from the resort. The florida mall which is in an upscale area is only 10 minutes away from the resort. I loved my time there. no one bothered me at all. The only other problem is that the key takes a long time to open the door but you get what you pay for.
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what a lovely place to stay

what a great place to stay. lovely large one bedroom condo, we were lucky to over look the pool also. everything was very clean and tody and the staff and reception were very helpful with anythign we asked. had no problem after checking in late. we will definately be going back and recommending it to our other friends who travel to orlando
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We cannot wait to go back! It was a great place to stay-close to Universal Studios.

It was a great experience. I met a lot of great people. I was locked out and I woke up a staff member at 12midnight. He had also been so kind as to help me start my car the day before. Everyone was so helpful. I felt right at home.
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Excellent Stay!!!

I really enjoyed staying at this hotel. It was quiet. Not too far from Universal and surrounding theme parks. I stayed in the one bedroom condo. The bed was comfy, full kitchen, pull out sofa in living room, and 2 bathrooms. Loved the whirlpool tub, it was very relaxing after a long day at the parks. Very nice for such an affordable price! I will definitely book another stay.
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Stayed here this past week and from previous reviews the wife and I were pretty nervous but it turned out great! The first problem came with checking in. Reviews warned of checking in late and being locked out, so we planned well and arrived at 10am. We were told we could not check in until 2. Not too bad, we went and got something to eat and came back. but after a 16 hour drive we wanted to be in our room. The only bad part of the area is Orange Blossom rd, the other side has malls and shopping areas. I'd much rather stay in this area then international drive, where tourists are always driving, walking and making noise. The room took us by surprise as it had a very nice layout and was very clean. not much for house cleaning but at least when we arrived it was clean. overall our stay was very enjoyable and we had none of the problems past bad reviewers had.

No summary needed, I think my point has been made. There is already enough negativity in the world so lets not bring it here. Soapbox off.

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

I am not sure why you are so negative JLB, and why you have such a bee in your bonnet

The short version: he used to get some very nice exchanges into the southern gulf coast of Florida in the early winter period, some really great deals. He no longer can. He is passionate about this change in circumstances, and also has a fair bit of time on his hands.

Depending on how much time you have on your hands, you can go back and read more of his posts to get a richer sense. But, I'd counsel you against arguing with him, because he almost certainly has more time and feels more passionately about this than you do.

[Ridewithme38 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ridewithme38]

Depending on how much time you have on your hands, you can go back and read more of his posts to get a richer sense. But, I'd counsel you against arguing with him, because he almost certainly has more time and feels more passionately about this than you do.

Just pointing out:

bnoble didn't say 'don't argue with him, because he is right' he basically said 'don't argue with him, because he'll throw a hissy fit and post tons of non-sense'

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...wanna-use.html

No need to explain myself since two or three of you have me all figured out.

Well, OK . . . .

Yes, I admit, for some of you I have been excessive, and I will be toning it down. So, head to the nearest aircraft carrier, put on a leather flight jacket, and hang a big banner that says "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED".

It's just that when I run across someone saying something like I have been, I get a little juiced, because I see that I am not just a blabbering fool. Or not just the only blabbering fool. Yeah, I can't wait to share it. I'm guilty.

I have a right to feel the way I do just like everyone else has the right to feel like they do.

But, like I said, I'll be toning it down.

Here's how I feel:

***If all that is allowed here is/are (?) goody-two-shoes comments about the wonderful benefits of timesharing, then the site will not be serving it's purpose, it will not have balance, the full truth, and people will be hurt because of it.

***Me reposting stuff other people have said is not the same as me posting stuff I have said. I post stuff to demonstrate that it is not just me who feels this way. I do that because I know I grate on some of you and want you to see that others feel like me (soft and cuddly). Heck, this week I even posted a comment from the owner of another Internet timeshare forum, where he is saying the same stuff I am saying, that most resale timeshares are worthless, or something like that . . . you can read it!!! Wow! Go figure!? Him and me appearing to agree on something!!! Run for the lifeboats.

***If you are going to spend your time searching for people who are critical of timesharing, for whatever perceived reason, so that you can be critical of them, you need to be freeing up a lot more time, because a lot more criticism is on it's way. Seems like a few of you make it a point to keep track of me. I'm sure you have better things to do, the same as you think I should have better things to do.

***You have not taken into consideration the totality of my contributions, just the ones that annoy you. As in real life, you can just stay away from those who annoy you.

***There are things being said on this forum, under the auspices of seasoned advice, that is not good advice. That annoys me, but I try not to criticize anyone for their right to post bad advice, because they believe it to be true. The last four years I've tried real hard not to say anything bad about anyone here, even though some are just as annoying to me as I am to them. If you can find a post where I demeaned someone here personally, rather than speaking to an issue, let me know. I am sorry if I did. It would be nice if everyone here could just stay on the issues instead making comments about other contributors.

***Yeah, no need to say any more about Wastegate. Everyone should know by now. Well, except for those who don't, the ones who come here for advice. My comments about Wastegate do not amount to one grain of sand on all of Siesta Beach compared to what's on the Internet. So, if someone can't google in 20 days, to see that what they bought for $20,000 can't even get a buck on eBay, oh well. When you hear the bell ring, another angel has not been made. (you gotta have been there)

***& yeah, there's no real reason why I should care. I'm sure it's just a phase I've been going through the last 40 years. I shouldn't care about others getting screwed, but I've always had a sorta Serpico-like thing about people scamming other people. If you don't feel the same way, that's fine. Most people don't care about the other guy. I understand how life might be easier being able to look the other way. Come to think of it, when I saw the movie, Serpico, and without looking I am going to guess 1968, I remember thinking, I'm like him!

***I have been able to evoke a few changes over the years, things everyone who timeshares benefit from. There are a few more I would like to be a part of, ones I feel may be the salvation of the industry. I mean, after all, if I did not care, I would not be here. There's golf the needs golfing and fish that need fishing and jetskis that need jetskiing.

***Something Nick Denton said on Rock Center this week caught my attention:

“This is going to sound really, really pretentious, but I believe in the larger truth and I believe that the truth is arrived at often in a rather messy fashion. And that gossip is part of the process. We'll put out a story, rough and ready to do all the dirty work, and the other media will come along later and follow it up.”

Although I don't gossip the way his websites do, I believe I am getting at the truth, and that it is a bit messy.

He believes in posting real stuff, what people actually talk about and what they actually think, and, if they get it wrong, they say so later. If I have it wrong, as I did ten years ago because I never took into consideration they day would come when we no longer wanted or needed to timeshare, I will say so later, as I am now.

When asked how he wants to be remembered, he hesitated, and then said something like, "All I care about is the truth. And I can wait for others to see it."

That's about it.

Thanks for caring, and following along.

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Sorry:

More of the Old Guard babbling on:

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...n-comment.html

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Doing pretty good, huh?!

It's been three hours.



Speaking of time, don't forget to move your clocks>>>Spring forward/Fall back.

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