Here's an opinion you can quote shopgirl... you're just trying to pick a fight.
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Shopgirl, I haven't read this whole thread, but I did have a business associate that sat thru one of their presentations. He told me all about it, and asked my opinion. They wanted him to pay them to take his timeshare, then pay them for a "membership" to use timeshare weeks when he wanted to, "subject to availability" He's actually got 2 decent properties, OLCC and FSP points but was too lazy to try selling them via ebay, or other owners.
I told him RUN, don't walk from somebody who wants you to pay them, that's just silly.
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Spence, I definitely DO NOT want a fight, that is what I am trying to say.
I was wanting to convince you to be angry at Timeshare Relief.
I am now trying to say I am sorry if you are offended. I am sorry, very sorry, I apologize. I didn't mean to insinuate anything about how you feel, what you said or what your motives are. I am sorry. I hope this is the end and do not want to pick a fight. I am sorry. No smilies, no frowns, no emotions here.
You can read whatever you want into this post or the others. I never quoted you. I was trying to be friendly, actually, but just as things translate through email, which is a very cold way to communicate, you cannot know the tone to my posts, which was all about being nice, that is my nature, but your tone is not a mystery.
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Maybe we should put contact 5 in touch with these people."If a Nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.... If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed."
-- Thomas Jefferson to Col. Yancey, 1816
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Originally posted by shopgirlIt is obvious that owners/employees of this company are being encouraged to go to TUG and bring up old threads about them and post as owners who used this route to get out of their timeshares.
Any thoughts?RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick
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Originally posted by shopgirlMy entire experience with timeshare has been so positive, especially after finding TUG and this site, I cannot imagine anyone paying a company cold hard cash to get rid of a timeshare.
Providing a reasonable exit strategy (for instance taking back paid-for vacation intervals) would put these companies out of business. (Or is it that the industry does not believe the intervals they sold are worth free? )
At the very least, charge a reasonable administrative fee to take them back.
Oh, then the avalanche would begin?RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick
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A figure you don't see the industry batting around is how much is being spent on timeshare fees for intervals that are not being used. I would think it would be in the hundreds of millions, perhaps billions.
We usetause all six of our weeks. Now we use three, and have a hard time finding something through RCI for those. My TUG/golfing buddy is in the same fix, due to change of life .
Several that we golf with own for golf, and have never used them.
With the economy, un/underemployment, and the dwindled value of investments, I would guess that unused vacation intervals are at an all-time high.RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick
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Most HOA's on the OBX have always taken deedbacks, and there has been no avalanche. Off season resales are even happening if you look at the county land transfer tax webpage.
Originally posted by JLB View PostSo, for those who have not had a positive experience, for those who have discovered that timesharing is not at all like the sales weasels make it out to be, for those who find it is just a bottomless money pit they never use, how would you (meaning anyone, not just you in particular) suggest they stop the bleeding, and get rid of it? (Since the industry does not care enough about owners to offer anything resembling an exit door.)
Providing a reasonable exit strategy (for instance taking back paid-for vacation intervals) would put these companies out of business. (Or is it that the industry does not believe the intervals they sold are worth free? )
At the very least, charge a reasonable administrative fee to take them back.
Oh, then the avalanche would begin?
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Slimy Slough
Brings to mind theSlimy Slough TS from a decade ago (the one where boiled pizza may have first been introduced by the famous TonyG(.
Originally posted by BoardGirl View PostTake some fake deeds with fun names, like Utah Shack, Swampland by the Sea, etc.
Take friends so everyone can have a fake deed and get gas money.
See if they'll still take it if you owe 2 yrs maint.
Explain that one was demolished by a hurricane, but it being rebuilt.
Have one owned by your late uncle that's a RTU that already expired (but you conveniently don't understand).
I think they would take any timeshare in any condition.
Be sure to take tax forms and find out exactly where to enter your deduction (or, 'strategy').M. Henley
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Originally posted by Carolinian View PostMost HOA's on the OBX have always taken deedbacks, and there has been no avalanche. Off season resales are even happening if you look at the county land transfer tax webpage.
I'll get ahold of Mr. S, and let him know about this upcoming change.RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick
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Might have been discussed here before,
I met a bankruptcy lawyer who has all her clients ask any family and friends if they want to get rid of their timeshares, deed em all over to the client. , then declare. I know it is wrong, but thought that was an interesting strategy for getting rid of unwanted timeshares?
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Originally posted by odaddy View PostMight have been discussed here before,
I met a bankruptcy lawyer who has all her clients ask any family and friends if they want to get rid of their timeshares, deed em all over to the client. , then declare. I know it is wrong, but thought that was an interesting strategy for getting rid of unwanted timeshares?
I posted a story like this couple weeks ago on Redweek.
My sister knowing we own a timeshare told me about one of her neighbors in Grass Valley Ca who couldn't get out of their timeshare deal where they paid thousands and owned the unit and last try came when the resort refused to take it back.
They had a family they understood is hurting and about to go bankrupt and lose their home. They paid them a thousand dollars to buy their timeshare from them and paid all closing fee's.Of coarse all numbers were just on paper and no real value changing hands except the thousand dollars paid to them for having unit changed into their names.
This money helps them as wife laid off and husband let go from his job over a year ago.
All the paperwork has been completed and as new owners they will just add maintenance cost and timeshare to their list in bankruptcy. I guess now resort gets timeshare back to resell later for profit. Resort could have just taken the unit back and only loss would have been Maintenance fee until resold.
Its sad it comes to this but resorts just turn their backs on their owners without even trying to help so what is left but owners finding other ways.
As I mentioned in my Redweek post how long before some owner goes down to Sacramento and works this kind of a deal in tent city. These homeless people would jump at a deal for even less money as they can't pay bills now.
PHIL
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