Lisa Ann Schreier

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According to a story in a new Consumer Reports Magazine (don't remember the name, but something to do with Shopping), Lisa Ann Schreier sold timeshare for five years in Orlando. It didn't say which company.

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Lisa Ann still sells timeshares with an unknown company in Orlando, and has been with several different companies. The last one she left partially because of the 'tours' she was being given, the straw being the ex-con just out from 17yrs behind bars.

She really didn't have too much to say in her talk. The only thing I took exception to was her saying that owners should not 'dump' their timeshares for $1 or $1000 because that perpetuates timeshares 'bad' name, or words to that effect.

I bought and read her book before going to the presentation. The book was extremely hard to read for me, very jumpy and not seemingly coherent, maybe that's just the editorial style of a 'Dummies' book. Lisa Ann told me that she did not have much editorial say and all the words weren't hers.

I spoke to her quite a bit, she was very personable, didn't look at all like the professional photograph at her website. Somehow, she is a timeshare expert because she has written two books. I took exception to some of her comments in the books and the answer was, well, that's what they (RCI,II,etc) told me. She said she was devasted by the treatment she got on TUG when she asked for 'constructive' comments for her book, she says everyone thought she only wanted positive comments and that was not the case.

I took exception to the lies timeshare sales(wo)men tell and she emphatically stated that she does not do that, that she will not sell to a person who is not qualified or that she feels the product is not suited for. She said that every person she's ever sold timeshare to has her personal cellphone number and not one has ever expressed dissatisfaction. She says she has the lowest rescission rate around.

I liked her, I hope her next edition debunks some of the stuff she or some editor put in the current edition.

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I did buy my Dummy book on Amazon, used, in unused condition and now it is a signed copy.

The President of Maryland Timeshare Owners Assn went around to each table individually urging people to buy the book which was available for $20. He said it cost $400 to bring Lisa Ann to the meeting... I'm thinking he got off cheap.

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She seems pretty busy....

What is this college timeshareing 101?

"She is currently developing an informational program about timeshares aimed at convention attendees and their spouses as well as co-authoring a college level textbook on timeshares, schedule to be released first quarter of 2008."

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She has two different publishers and they BOTH put words in her mouth?

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Actually I think it is sad.

I think it's pathetic.
How can her website say "Lisa is neither pro- nor anti-timeshare" when she sells timeshares for a living?

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I think it's pathetic.
How can her website say "Lisa is neither pro- nor anti-timeshare" when she sells timeshares for a living?

While I understand what you're saying, I think it is in consonance with her statement that she emphatically stated that she does not do that (lie), that she will not sell to a person who is not qualified or that she feels the product is not suited for. She said that every person she's ever sold timeshare to has her personal cellphone number and not one has ever expressed dissatisfaction. She says she has the lowest rescission rate around.

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While I understand what you're saying, I think it is in consonance with her statement that she emphatically stated that she does not do that (lie), that she will not sell to a person who is not qualified or that she feels the product is not suited for. She said that every person she's ever sold timeshare to has her personal cellphone number and not one has ever expressed dissatisfaction. She says she has the lowest rescission rate around.

Now we'll have to change our comments about timeshare salespersons to "Their lips or their fingers were moving",

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On tips and OY we asked her repeatedly about statements on her web site which some of us thought would make it into her new book....she chose not to respond to those very specific and direct questions. That was her choice. We wanted to help....she didn't want help...she wanted support....i.e. sales. Just my humble opinion of course.

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I think you were right too....it is so sad it is funny. And she even laughs when she deposits her royalty checks.

Come to think of it , you are right! How come you are always right?

But then again, it is probably because I am usually always wrong

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While I understand what you're saying, I think it is in consonance with her statement that she emphatically stated that she does not do that (lie), that she will not sell to a person who is not qualified or that she feels the product is not suited for. She said that every person she's ever sold timeshare to has her personal cellphone number and not one has ever expressed dissatisfaction. She says she has the lowest rescission rate around.

I read her book last year and I wasn't impressed. Maybe she doesn't lie, but she certainly can't disclose the entire truth. If she did she'd never make a sale. If she doesn't own and use timeshare then she doesn't have all the facts about how the system really works. Many of the things that the resort developers promise are technically possible, but not common in the real world. For example, although you may be able to trade a red Orlando week for a high demand summer beach week it's not as easy as they make it sound. Some presentations talk about easily renting your timeshare for big profits. Although it does happen, more often than not you're lucky to cover your maintenance fees.

I have a good friend that's a timeshare salesperson for a developer. Until recently he didn't own any timeshare weeks. Prior to that, almost all of his timeshare knowledge came from what his employer told him. Everything he was told was technically true, but reality of how things work isn't known to most salespeople. If Lisa doesn't personally own any timeshare weeks she's missing the experience necessary to really know whether or not she's telling lies in her presentations.

Maybe some day one of us will end up on a tour with Lisa and then we'll find out first hand how truthful she is. If I knew where she worked I'd sign up for a presentation.

Norm

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Maybe some day one of us will end up on a tour with Lisa and then we'll find out first hand how truthful she is. If I knew where she worked I'd sign up for a presentation. Norm

She wouldn't tell me, when asked.

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What about the salespeople who tell you to reserve the best week possible through exchange and then RENT it for a profit.

They also say, "there is a portion of your money going into reserves and replacements will happen every six years." Tell that to the Vistana owners, who are going to have to pay for major refurbishments.

"All Orlando weeks are red," is my favorite of all time!

Or along those lines, how about, "you got the exchange into this resort this time, but you will never get here again."

We should start a thread on lies we have heard at sales presentations.

The Marriott saleswoman denied that any resorts have been thrown away by Marriott. She said all of Marriott in Vail is still Marriott. This was just in January at Horizons.

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Smilie for Shopgirl

We should start a thread on lies we have heard at sales presentations.

Yes, maybe you should.

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Anyone have any questions for this famous author of Timeshare Vacations for Dummies and Surviving a Timeshare Presentation? Supposed to see her on Sunday.

Hi:
I've not found any post following your subject meeting of a few weeks ago now, so I'll ask the obvious question (and a few more besides):

1. Would you care to share a summary or characterization of your meeting?

2. I've read her 2005 "Dummies" book. In my personal opinion, it is incomplete and very superficial in many areas (but who asked for my opinion, anyhow?).
What I DO wonder about is the claim by some folks (here on TS4MS and elsewhere) that there is information in her book which is "wrong". Seldom (if ever) do these claims actually identify what content is "wrong". Can anyone who believes this claim of "wrong" information in the Schreier book identify, with some specificity, particular topics or areas in which the book content is "wrong"?

This is certainly NOT an effort to defend Ms. Schreier or her book ---I have no reason (or any interest) to do so. She is a salesperson (enough said there) and, in my personal opinion, an opportunist. Yet, information is knowledge and I don't find it particularly illuminating, helpful, or educational to see claims of "...she's wrong" without any identification of what she is allegedly wrong about! She might very well be dead wrong, but on what subject? in what statement(s)? where? when? This inquiring mind wants to learn the important difference between challenging statements and claims of facts vs. mere sour grapes "grousing". Can you help me learn the difference in specific regard to Ms. Schreier's book content?