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Questions on Fractional Ownership at Velas Vallarta – Is this a Scam?

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  • Questions on Fractional Ownership at Velas Vallarta – Is this a Scam?

    I attended a timeshare presentation in Puerto Vallarta last week and was introduced to what they are calling Fractional Ownership. It sounds very much like a normal timeshare in that you get a week each year for 25 years (RTU) although you can accelerate your weeks by using up to 4 weeks in one year. There were two parts to the presentation, however, that puzzle me and I need some help on determining if this is a scam. We did not buy, but are interested in learning more about this.

    They claim that the fractional part of this ownership is that you can vacation up to 52 weeks a year outside of the home resort (Velas Vallarta) in either a resort for a week at a time (cost between $100 and $800) and hotels for $80/night. It sounds like some type of vacation club. I think it may be Holiday Systems International, which I don’t know anything about. The sales person claimed that with this system (whatever system it is) that we could stay at virtually any hotel or resort for $80 a night, including top end resorts and hotels like Marriott, etc. This, of course, sounds too good to be true.

    The most remarkable part of the presentation was his desire to essentially sale our timeshares. He asked which timeshares we owned and what we paid for them and then came back with a value that they would guarantee to us if we assigned them our timeshare. His “guaranteed” price was more than I could sale it for myself. He claimed that the Company he worked for gets some kind of tax benefit for doing this. Again, this sounds too good to be true and sounds more like some type of scam.

    Does anybody have any knowledge about this operation at Velas Vallarta. I would love to here from any body that bought such a package on their experiences. Thanks.

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    Them offering you more money for your TS is like you trading in your old car for a new. They will give you top dollar but then they will only discount a little off the new one.

    I do not like dealing with any company out of the US. IMO stay away.
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    • #3
      The Mayan Palace group uses this tactic, you say 'I could buy from you if I didn't own X & Y & Z Timeshares already' and they say, 'no problem - we will take your deed and buy these from you if you buy OUR TS instead....'

      You buy their TS and then find out in 6 months that you still also own X & Y & Z and have to continue to pay fees and payments on ALL the TSs.
      I personally spoke o 2 different couples in Nueva Vallarta that had this happen to them.
      The sad part is neither realized they had been scammed!!!
      One said, 'isn't it great, we got to keep our other TS after all!'
      I did not point out to them that they only bought the 'new' TS because they got SUCH a good discount by turning their 'old' TS in......


      Run away!
      Pat
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      • #4
        Also, in the US, fractional ownership means you own a 1/12 share of a unit = 4 weeks a year, the 'fraction' can be higher then that...at the Inn at Silver Creek in CO, there are 1/4 shares = 13 weeks.

        What you described (I think) is that there are many contracts (in Mexico and Caribbean locations) that have 'accelerated' weeks - you have "X" amount of weeks to use in "Y" years but you CAN use them 2 at a time rather then a tradition contract that allows you one week a year.

        The cheap stays are either RCI last minute stuff that anyone can access off many sights on the internet or another 'travel club' that promised cheap last minute stays.
        Pat
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