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  • #16
    So how much of my letter was edited? Here is what they printed last issue:

    Crazy Suggestion

    We have been subscribers of your
    magazine for many years, and have even contributed reviews
    and articles to your publication. We own 19 timeshares at the
    present time and are constantly assessing and evaluating our
    timeshare portfolio. We do not feel “stuck” with any of our ownerships
    and know we can easily sell any of our weeks, with a wellwritten
    ad, posted on many different resale sites.
    Personally, I have a big problem with Timeshare Relief, Time
    No More, Vacation Solutions, Timeshare Acquisitions, etc., all of
    whom charge $3,495 to owners who want out of their timeshare
    ownerships. Some timeshares are not worth much, that is true
    enough, but many timeshares that these companies acquire are
    very valuable. They sell large numbers of Hawaii weeks on eBay.
    I have purchased from their companies, though unknowingly.
    They do not disclose the amounts they expect to sell the timeshares
    for. Within two weeks of one of their presentations, Timeshare
    Relief lists them on eBay.
    Now for a crazy suggestion: If all resorts would just allow
    owners to give their deeds back, with one or two years of maintenance
    fees in advance to give the resorts time to resell and giveaway
    weeks, we could cut down on the need for these companies.
    I see a movement toward that direction, where resorts are
    able to offer this as an alternative to owners who feel so desperate
    that they would pay these companies to rid themselves of a
    timeshare.
    Along with that, I am hoping TimeSharing Today
    would consider donating a page in the classified ads
    for HOA’s to advertise these weeks for free, with the
    only cost being the closing. If we get the names of
    resorts out there, we can help all timeshare owners by getting
    these unwanted weeks into new owners’ hands. Of course, valuable
    weeks would rarely, if ever, be listed for free. It would be
    older resorts with HOA boards that would take advantage of the
    free ad space. This would help your publication, when newsletters
    go out, explaining the plan for marketing weeks. Plus, your
    magazine would be providing a great alternative.
    I know we can make this plan work. For resorts that are currently
    in developers’ hands, there should be no issue with taking
    weeks back from unhappy owners. I expect more of the bigger
    companies and resorts that are still in the business of sales to
    realize that it is in their best interests to take weeks back that are
    fully paid for. Why wouldn’t they? They can always resell them.
    We only need to help the smaller resorts, the underdogs. I
    see no reason for resorts to hire lawyers and take weeks back by
    force, at such a great expense. This would help resorts and owners
    alike. Plus, readership for your magazine will go up, as more
    and more opportunities for free weeks start appearing in your
    magazine. People really do buy those eBay $1.00 weeks.
    Please do not sign my full name if you choose to publish
    this letter, as I have purchased from at least one of these postcard
    companies and they know who I am. I worry about retribution.
    Cindy in Colorado



    So how different was that letter, compared to what they printed? I think very different, but that is my opinion. There is a definite slant in their edited version.

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    • #17
      Cindy, note that your full name is visible in one of your posts.

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      • #18
        Thanks for the heads up on that.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by shopgirl
          Thanks for the heads up on that.
          I worry. These guys are scary.

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          • #20
            Selling your Timeshare - Is it right for you !!

            The world is filled with remorseful timeshare buyers. As a testament, timeshares can be bought on the Internet for pennies on the dollar. There are more people trying to unload timeshares than there are trying to buy the units. The imbalance gives you an idea of the real value of timeshares and why donating your timeshare is a terrific and sensible solution. You can receive a tax deduction of up to $5000.00 without an appraisal and the charity we support can always use any amount to help them.

            It is a wildlife refuge that gives animals a permanent, loving and safe home for the remainder of their lives.

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            • #21
              I thought that Timeshare Relief's letter criticizing Cindy was childish and unprofessional, and I sent Timeshare Today a letter saying how disappointed I was that they would print a personal attack like that. That was a couple of weeks ago; I have not heard back from Timeshare Today.

              (By the way, I see that someone from Trejesto has posted just before me. I don't know if ads like Trejesto's are allowed on this board, but I can say that I bought a timeshare from Trejesto and the transaction was very fast and smooth.)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by JudyS View Post
                I thought that Timeshare Relief's letter criticizing Cindy was childish and unprofessional, and I sent Timeshare Today a letter saying how disappointed I was that they would print a personal attack like that. That was a couple of weeks ago; I have not heard back from Timeshare Today.
                I agree that Timeshare Relief's reply was extremely unprofessional; that was one of the first things that struck me. If I were a potential customer, it would be an instant turnoff.

                I am not a subscriber to Timesharing Today, although I have and am considering it (I guess I can ask for reviews on it in a different thread). I do notice on its website that one of its advertisers is Timeshare Relief!

                Keep up the fight, Cindy. I think it's fair to say that there a lot of us backing your efforts.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Donate@trejesto.com
                  The world is filled with remorseful timeshare buyers. As a testament, timeshares can be bought on the Internet for pennies on the dollar . . . <<rest SNIPPED>>


                  Is this post allowed here? Sure looks like advertising to me!
                  Yvonne

                  My Travel Journals

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                  • #24
                    Judy, I hope they publish your letter. I wish others would take the time to write a line or two to the magazine.

                    Money talks! That is the reason Timesharing Today is allowing Timeshare Relief to espouse their purpose and deny a relationship with VINinc, the resale company with whom they are very cozy. They are allowing VINinc to keep the profits for the many timeshares they hustle from older people, even paying them to sell? I doubt it. They make money from both ends, I am pretty sure of it, but there is no way to prove it, unless a detective gets on the case.

                    Timeshare Relief has half-page ads next to or above Carefree Journeys. Carefree Journeys is the new product VINinc is advertising via private emails made in response to eBay questions. It is obvious they are very closely related to Timeshare Relief. No way are they completely separate. Anyone can check that out by asking a question of any resaler that uses Timeshare Closing Services, their exclusive closing company. What a racket!

                    The denial of Timeshare Relief is laughable.

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                    • #25
                      Do you have your tax law straight here....?

                      Re: >> You can receive a tax credit of up to $5000.00...<<
                      ================================================== =====

                      There is a clear and distinct diffference between a tax credit (which is a dollar for dollar reduction of taxes due, and which certainly does NOT apply to ANY timeshare donation) and a tax deduction. Unless I am quite mistaken, you have used use the word CREDIT (inaccurately) where the correct word should be DEDUCTION. There is a VERY big difference between the two (e.g., 100&#37; vs. about 28%).

                      Also, I believe that the $5k figure you have cited actually only represents the threshhold above which a formal appraisal must be obtained. It has nothing to do with "tax credit", nor does it have anything to with deduction limit. Below that figure, "fair market value" may simply be deducted without a formal appraisal (...but it's still a tax deduction --- NOT a "tax credit").

                      I'm all for charitable donation, but I must respectfully suggest that your statement, as currently expressed and quoted in part above, is both factually incorrect and somewhat misleading.

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                      • #26
                        Factually inaccurate

                        Originally posted by TimeshareVon View Post
                        Is this post allowed here? Sure looks like advertising to me!
                        I don't have a problem with a non-profit posting, but I DO take exception to its content being factually inaccurate, as I've separately addressed in a direct response post in this thread.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by TimeshareVon View Post
                          Is this post allowed here? Sure looks like advertising to me!
                          Von, click on the little "!!!!" in the upper right corner of your post to report a questionable post - this will be taken care of - Thanks.....
                          Pat
                          *** My Website ***

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                          • #28
                            Cindi,
                            You might have grounds for libel. I'd hit them back with that.
                            Meanwhile, I, too, have written them a letter regarding their treatment of your complaint which has merit. Will report back with any news.
                            B.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Donate@trejesto.com
                              The world is filled with remorseful timeshare buyers. As a testament, timeshares can be bought on the Internet for pennies on the dollar. There are more people trying to unload timeshares than there are trying to buy the units. The imbalance gives you an idea of the real value of timeshares and why donating your timeshare is a terrific and sensible solution. You can receive a tax deduction of up to $5000.00 without an appraisal and the charity we support can always use any amount to help them.

                              It is a wildlife refuge that gives animals a permanent, loving and safe home for the remainder of their lives.
                              Just so you know I removed your link for your ad that you placed in 2 days after you posted. If this happens again you will receive an infraction.
                              Timeshareforums Shirts and Mugs on sale now! http://www.cafepress.com/ts4ms

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