Ebay listings dropped 30% this morning

[jlwquilter Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jlwquilter]

Well, I see both sides too, although I have only been a buyer. I pay promptly and sometimes have been given immediate feedback stating just that. Other times it's been more of the blackmail system...I have to leave positive feedback before getting positive feedback - and I always wait until I get the item before leaving any feedback. And I do see that as blackmail.

But there are other types of buyers out there and they will use this new system to their advantage...just like the "other sellers" use the current system to their advantage. It's been pretty much a seller's game and now the scales are tipping to the buyer side. Want to bet it will tip back at some point??

I do actually like the sellers leaving feedback as well as I base bidding decisions on how they respond to negative feedback. Someone who posts along the line of "tried to reach an agreement" is more likely to get my business despite the negative feeback than ones that post "loser buyer" or "go pound sand" (both of which I have read). It gives me a feeling for the seller's attitude if I should indeed have an issue.

No system is perfect. We'll just have to learn this new one and act accordingly. As a person who does pay promptly, I am of course ok with the changes overall.

[SDSunshine Member Find all posts View Profile Close SDSunshine]

I believe sellers are still protected under the new system as I believe 3 non-paying bidder strikes inactivates the buyer's account (from what I read).

With timeshares, it's a little different (and annoying). I bid on a timeshare and the seller took off the "Platinum" designation in the 12 hours of the auction. I didn't see the change (and the addendum in small print at the bottom of the auction) and when I won, I noticed the difference.

I emailed the seller saying I was no longer interested since I really wanted a Platinum week. EBay tells me that the TS listings are NOT a binding contract. Now the seller is filing a non-paying bidder toward me, which is a total bummer. I asked him not to but he said that's the only way to recoop the listing fee.

So my career with eBay starts out with a bust rather than a bang. Argh.

Katherine

[Jya-Ning Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close Jya-Ning]

I asked him not to but he said that's the only way to recoop the listing fee.

So my career with eBay starts out with a bust rather than a bang. Argh.

Katherine

I assume you have all the communication in eMail and saved? Including the part the seller changed the content of Ad in last 12 hr?

It will be great if you have a copy of the old ad saved.

Any way send saved email to eBay, ask them to resolve the issue and hopefully they will remove your bump

Jya-Ning

[short Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close short]

Same way buyer get it.

I am new to eBay and I have purchased 2 things recently. I paid within an hour of auction close. Both sellers refuse to leave feedback. I pestered them so much that they both eventually said they woudl leave feedback AFTER I received the items and left THEM positive feedback. This seems like blackmail to me.

Mind you, with my 0 feedback rating, I can't ask sellers questions (not more than 5 a day I am told) and my account is limited in other ways too. I could not bid on the $11,000 timeshare for example as it "exceeded" my limit as a new person on eBay.

So how am I supposed to get the darn feedback to have these limits lifted when sellers are unwilling to leave me the positive feedback I deserve?

Seems like the current system is definitely broken. Katherine

Get great feedback the same way the buyers do.

You should set up another user and buy from yourself. Leave other self tons of great feedback.

I was reading an article a few days ago that said that 28% of registered consumer complaints in California are from internet auctions.

The whole ebay business model relies on people making good faith buys and sells. At some point this kind of model attracts scammers and frauds. Primarily on the sellers end of the sale because who can gain a much money as a fraudulent buyer? Its like a bookkeeper absconding with the accounts payable. A buyer might be fake and mess up the sellers sale process temporarily but they are unlikely to be able to get away with much money or products without paying under the current system. The big fraud is done by buyers who do not deliver anything or less than they promised.

I also think this will become a problem with craigslist. Stuff like concert tickets etc. Scammers will come out if they think they can make a buck easy.

Short