Questions Re: 1-in-4 Rule

[Beaglemom3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Beaglemom3]

I have some questions re: the 1-in-4 rule, actually, how to circumvent it or what would stop me from returning ? I've read snippets of the rule here and there, but wondered if I could get a concise report here.

Asking as recently, last year and this year, I exchanged for the first time into 2 resorts (Houses at Summer Bay & The Manhattan Club) which enforce this, so now I am taking notice.

1. If I got a guest certificate from someone who exchanged, could I go ?

2. If I rented from an owner/other, could I go ?

3. Are exceptions ever made ? Is the policy ever overridden ?

4. Is it the resort's policy or the exchange company's ?

Please add any other pearls of wisdom that could add to the basis of knowledge here re: "the rule".

Thank you very much.

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

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I have some questions re: the 1-in-4 rule, actually, how to circumvent it or what would stop me from returning ? I've read snippets of the rule here and there, but wondered if I could get a concise report here.

Asking as recently, last year and this year, I exchanged for the first time into 2 resorts (Houses at Summer Bay & The Manhattan Club) which enforce this, so now I am taking notice.

1. If I got a guest certificate from someone who exchanged, could I go ?
YES, IT IS RELATED TO THE RCI ACCOUNT - NOT THE PERSON

2. If I rented from an owner/other, could I go ?
YES, THIS IS STRICKLY AN RCI RULE

3. Are exceptions ever made ? Is the policy ever overridden ?
NOPE - BUT WHO KNOWS!

4. Is it the resort's policy or the exchange company's ?
MUST BE A COMBINATION - BUT IT ONLY AFFECTS TRADES THRU RCI - NOT OTHER EXCHANGE COMPANIES SUCH AS SFX OR TPI OR WHOEVER.

Please add any other pearls of wisdom that could add to the basis of knowledge here re: "the rule".

Thank you very much.

It is interesting to me that this 'deal' or 'agreement' is with RCI ONLY - II. SFX, TPI, DAE and others don't allow this arrangement - and why should they?
If you want to be considered an EXCHANGE company, you should allow exchanges.

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

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I have some questions re: the 1-in-4 rule, actually, how to circumvent it or what would stop me from returning ? I've read snippets of the rule here and there, but wondered if I could get a concise report here.

Asking as recently, last year and this year, I exchanged for the first time into 2 resorts (Houses at Summer Bay & The Manhattan Club) which enforce this, so now I am taking notice.

1. If I got a guest certificate from someone who exchanged, could I go ?

YES as long as they themselves have not exchanged in during that time period.

2. If I rented from an owner/other, could I go ?

Yes.

3. Are exceptions ever made ? Is the policy ever overridden ?

No.

4. Is it the resort's policy or the exchange company's ?

Although it is only ever seen in RCI it is the resort's policy.

Please add any other pearls of wisdom that could add to the basis of knowledge here re: "the rule".

Thank you very much.

It really is a one in "X". OLCC is 1-in-3, MC is 1-in-4, Mayans are 1-in-5.

Many of these resorts can be gotten from other sources than RCI and then would not have those restrictions. FWIW I have always felt that the 1-in-x is used as a sales tool.

[Keitht Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Keitht]

I have some questions re: the 1-in-4 rule,

1. If I got a guest certificate from someone who exchanged, could I go ?

Checks on previous stays will generally be done against membership numbers so it wouldn't be immediately obvious that you had stayed before.

2. If I rented from an owner/other, could I go ?

If renting from an owner the resort rules about who the owner can rent to, and if 1 in 4 rules are in effect for member rentals, would apply.

3. Are exceptions ever made ? Is the policy ever overridden ?

I don't think there has ever been a rule written that hasn't been over ridden at some stage.

4. Is it the resort's policy or the exchange company's ?

Resort policy, although applied on their behalf by the exchange company.

It's always worth bearing in mind that if a resort has a 1 in 4 policy, and you 'get round it' by any of the mean outlined above, they could still refuse to allow you to stay when you arrive. Presumably you had to give name and address details on previous visits so they can still check that.
Is it really worth the hassle and the risk to return to a resort who have this policy?

[IreneLF Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close IreneLF]

FWIW I have always felt that the 1-in-x is used as a sales tool.
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ITA.
I know Smugglers now adheres to a 1 in 4 for trades for NONOWNERS because if you could trade in 'all the time' why would you buy?
Happily, they don't hold to the "rule" for owners...

[tabbyc Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tabbyc]

Join RCI Again

Pay $89 and join RCI again using a different address and phone number.
Done it without problems for years.

[Beaglemom3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Beaglemom3]

Pay $89 and join RCI again using a different address and phone number.
Done it without problems for years.

Brilliant ! Has you tried it successfully in any 1-4 trades ?

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

It's absolutely a sales too. I'm guessing that RCI allows it only for resorts that do developer bulk deposits. Such inventory is necessary to any exchange company.

II doesn't do 1-in-X, but it does have preferential periods, the regional blocks, and a few other "artificial" limits on exchange activity.

[brother coony Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close brother coony]

Cant speak for other Resort, But renting from AN owner at the Manhattan club is no problem, you can go 52 weeks per.year, those or owners weeks and you are the guest of the owners,
owners contract state that all owner has to do is inform MC of name and address of guest,
Note, the 1x4 rule is for exchange starting April of 08, if you made exchange befor that date you can exchange also for 2009 but them next time you can exchange in is 2013, but you can rent as often as you like,

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

Cant speak for other Resort, But renting from AN owner at the Manhattan club is no problem, you can go 52 weeks per.year, those or owners weeks and you are the guest of the owners,
owners contract state that all owner has to do is inform MC of name and address of guest,
Note, the 1x4 rule is for exchange starting April of 08, if you made exchange befor that date you can exchange also for 2009 but them next time you can exchange in is 2013, but you can rent as often as you like,

or use another exchange company.

[jlwquilter Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jlwquilter]

Pay $89 and join RCI again using a different address and phone number.
Done it without problems for years.

This is my thnking too. I haven't needed to do it yet but DH is staying at the Galleon this year and I can be pretty sure he'll want to go again before the 4 years are up!

Question: Did you also use a different name too? Ie: one account in your name and one on your DH's name?

[joycapecod Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close joycapecod]

This is my thnking too. I haven't needed to do it yet but DH is staying at the Galleon this year and I can be pretty sure he'll want to go again before the 4 years are up!

Question: Did you also use a different name too? Ie: one account in your name and one on your DH's name?

You could use one in your name one in DH name...or one in your maiden name.

Joy

[JudyS Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JudyS]

What about if you are an RCI Points member? Your Weeks account and Points account will have different account numbers. Does that mean you can stay once booking a "Weeks" reservation (not a Points reservation) through Points and once at the same resort booking through Weeks?

Also, "Standard Reseervations" (i.e., the "Points side" of RCI Points) are still exempt from 1-in-x rules, aren't they?

I have my first reservation with the Mayans coming up in 2010. If there isn't a way around the 1-in-x rule, I can't trade into them again via RCI until 2015!

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

What about if you are an RCI Points member? Your Weeks account and Points account will have different account numbers. Does that mean you can stay once booking a "Weeks" reservation (not a Points reservation) through Points and once at the same resort booking through Weeks?

Also, "Standard Reseervations" (i.e., the "Points side" of RCI Points) are still exempt from 1-in-x rules, aren't they?

I have my first reservation with the Mayans coming up in 2010. If there isn't a way around the 1-in-x rule, I can't trade into them again via RCI until 2015!

If you book points-into-points you are exempt from the 1-in-x rule. Points to weeks still counts. SFX gets plenty of Mayans.

[JudyS Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JudyS]

If you book points-into-points you are exempt from the 1-in-x rule. Points to weeks still counts. SFX gets plenty of Mayans.

Thanks, Lawren.

So, you are saying that RCI tracks which Points account goes with which Weeks account, and applies the 1-in-x rule (for Weeks trades) across both a Points account and its associated Weeks account? Basically, what I was hoping was that since members get a different account number for their Weeks account and their Points account, maybe RCI counted them separately for the 1-in-x rule. But, I guess that would be too good to be true!

As for SFX, I don't really own anything that they want. (Well, there's my Disney's Boardwalk, but they aren't getting that!)