RCI's response to my email - 1 in 4 and Manhattan Club

[Keitht Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Keitht]

I read the original post again and notice now that it is about the MC in NYC and not about Mexican timeshares and their idiotic exchange rules for the benefit of the developers for getting new prospects.

What's idiotic, from a developer point of view, in getting more prospective purchasers on site? They want people in resort who are more likely to be interested in purchasing. Irritating for those who want to go back time and again without buying, but a pretty solid business model.

[JudyS Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JudyS]

It should be applied as of the date enacted. If the trade was confirmed prior to March 28 2008 then the rule should not apply. From all accounts this is what people are being told on the phone.....

I agree. I think it's quite unfair for RCI to apply this rule to trades confirmed before the rule was announced (assuming that is in fact what they were doing.) Suppose someone really wanted to go to the Manhattan Club in late 2010, but then happened to see a 2008 week just sitting there, so they booked it. Now, they can't do their 2010 trade.

Of course, when Manhattan Club started charging a mandatory daily cleaning fee, that was applied retroactively as well. So, I guess I'm disappointed but not surprised.

[brother coony Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close brother coony]

Yea. GRAYFAL,
the Manhattan club is only affliated with RCI, and the Penthouse suites are only affliated with 11, there or only 24 Penthouse suites, the Manhattan club owners can't use the penthouse suites amenities, like the two roof top decks, or penthouse library, or even the two penthouse elevators from the 26 floor up as they required penthouse keys to opperate
Penthouse owners can use all facility,

Penthouse are about 700sq ft each but because of the size of the 2 bathroom most living space is no biger than the regular 1 bedroom suites,but they come with computer in room, turn down service with nitly nite caps,
they are nice and plush
the 1 x 4 does not apply to the penthouse suites, only the Manhattan club
RCI also don't inforce the 1 x 4 rules,the Resort does

[Glitter Brunello Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Glitter Brunello]

I decided to get what I heard on the phone about being able to keep my September exchange in writing. Here's my response, which is great for my purposes, but it's pretty funny. Also directly contradicts what the OP was told, shocking.

Hello,

Thank you for your e-mail.

The one in four year rule has always been in effect for The Manhattan
Club. This was not a recent addition in March.

Your September reservation is okay to keep because you were not aware of
this rule before now. Going forward you will need to wait to travel
back to The Manhattan Club for four more years.

Thank you for the opportunity to address your inquiry.

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

I decided to get what I heard on the phone about being able to keep my September exchange in writing. Here's my response, which is great for my purposes, but it's pretty funny.

Hello,

Thank you for your e-mail.

The one in four year rule has always been in effect for The Manhattan
Club. This was not a recent addition in March.
Your September reservation is okay to keep because you were not aware of
this rule before now. Going forward you will need to wait to travel
back to The Manhattan Club for four more years.

Thank you for the opportunity to address your inquiry.

Yeah right.

[SteveH Member Find all posts View Profile Close SteveH]

RCI points and the 1 in 4 rule

Hi all:
If you have a points/week account does the 1:4 rule apply if you book using points on the points side?
I assume that if you try to book a week from the weeks side and try to use points, the rule will apply.
Do these weeks appear very often doing point searches and is there an equivalent bulk banking on the points side?
This was very sad news as our last visit in May 07 to the MC was our best to date. What a let down! We're really going to miss going every other year.
Steve

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

Hi all:
If you have a points/week account does the 1:4 rule apply if you book using points on the points side?
I assume that if you try to book a week from the weeks side and try to use points, the rule will apply.
Do these weeks appear very often doing point searches and is there an equivalent bulk banking on the points side?
This was very sad news as our last visit in May 07 to the MC was our best to date. What a let down! We're really going to miss going every other year.
Steve

No it does not with points to points.

They are there but pricey and stingy. Not a bulkbank scenario.

[JudyS Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JudyS]

....
The one in four year rule has always been in effect for The Manhattan
Club. This was not a recent addition in March.....

Huh? I traded in during 2006, and there was no 1-in-4 then. So, does this mean they'll try to block me from trading in to MC until 2010?

Oh, wait, I don't own anything in RCI strong enough to trade for The Manhattan
Club anyway. I'd be lucky to get Branson in November from RCI Weeks. Nevermind!

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

The one in four year rule has always been in effect for The Manhattan
Club.

We have always been at war with Eastasia!

[Glitter Brunello Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Glitter Brunello]

We have always been at war with Eastasia!

Perfect!

[alisakyoung Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close alisakyoung]

OK, I'm totally confused. I booked 2 rooms back in 1/08 for 11/08 and now was looking at booking for 2009 (anytime), but just noticed that 1-4 rule. I'm a RCI Points member, only looking at booking 1-2 nights each visit as I live in Maryland, so does the 1-4 rule apply to me (as some posts said it doesn't)? If so that sucks

Do you know where I can verifiable info, as I would like to book in 2009, but don't want to waste my time/money/points if I can't and get there only to find they won't honor my points exchange.

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

OK, I'm totally confused. I booked 2 rooms back in 1/08 for 11/08 and now was looking at booking for 2009 (anytime), but just noticed that 1-4 rule. I'm a RCI Points member, only looking at booking 1-2 nights each visit as I live in Maryland, so does the 1-4 rule apply to me (as some posts said it doesn't)? If so that sucks

Do you know where I can verifiable info, as I would like to book in 2009, but don't want to waste my time/money/points if I can't and get there only to find they won't honor my points exchange.

Points traded to points is not affected by the one-in-x rule. You're cool.

[alisakyoung Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close alisakyoung]

Even if on the RCI Points reservations site it says the 1-4 is enforced? Like I said don't want to waste my time/money/points.

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

Even if on the RCI Points reservations site it says the 1-4 is enforced? Like I said don't want to waste my time/money/points.

Even if.

[JWC Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close JWC]

You can exchange through SFX and never have to worry about any 1 in 4 rule or other restrictions at any resort. I exchanged through them at Manhattan Club this July and am going again next year. You also don't have to pay any housekeeping fees or other fees at MC.