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    I'm doing my first presentation in June. I've done some research on surviving timeshare sales and think I'm ready and able to say no, just give me the freebie.. Any advice from seasoned pros?

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    Originally posted by samvallarta
    I'm doing my first presentation in June. I've done some research on surviving timeshare sales and think I'm ready and able to say no, just give me the freebie.. Any advice from seasoned pros?
    Welcome Sam

    If you tell us what resort you are doing the presentation at, we will better be able to gage your survival potential .

    edited to add - we aren't ignoring you but it is MOTHERS Day - so everyone is busy being nice to their mothers/wives/girlfriends...you get the picture!
    See ya lata' !
    Pat
    *** My Website ***

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    • #3
      Originally posted by samvallarta
      I'm doing my first presentation in June. I've done some research on surviving timeshare sales and think I'm ready and able to say no, just give me the freebie.. Any advice from seasoned pros?
      If you have to brace yourself that hard, is it really worth the freebie? I am guessing if you have it scheduled then you are getting a deeply discounted stay somewhere nice -- imo that's the only "freebie" worth sitting for unless you are genuinely interested in hearing about the property.

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      • #4
        If you do go, leave all credit and debit cards, along with all other information about your bank, at home. That way it doesn't matter how persuasive the sales staff are you can't sign up

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Keitht
          If you do go, leave all credit and debit cards, along with all other information about your bank, at home. That way it doesn't matter how persuasive the sales staff are you can't sign up
          Unfortunately, many developers here require a credit card and ID before the presentation...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by samvallarta
            I'm doing my first presentation in June. I've done some research on surviving timeshare sales and think I'm ready and able to say no, just give me the freebie.. Any advice from seasoned pros?
            Don't ask questions yourself.

            Be suitably unimpressed by the facilities.

            If you answer their questions, keep answers short and to the point, preferably yes/no. Any extraneous conversation will only prolong your ordeal.

            Keep looking at your watch. At some point, make sure you remind them that this was going to end in 90 minutes and they should get to the point.

            Then you say no, you aren't interested. Even if you were, you wouldn't be signing a contract today. The closer will stop by, tell them that the salesperson was very nice, no complaints, but you just came for the freebie. Thank them, get your stuff and leave.

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            • #7
              Bring along some info on resale prices. Tell them that there are better deals elsewhere. Maybe some eBay examples.

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              • #8
                Just say no as much as possible and tell them you never buy anything that costs over $ 500 without at least a week of research.

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                • #9
                  Sounds like we have contempt for the timeshare industry, but don't blame the salesperson. They're on straight commission, NO SALARY. That means this is their livelihood. Besides, how would you like it if someone came to your job, plopped down in front of you and announced they were there to waste your time.

                  Bottom line is, the game is to offer freebies and try to entice a sales transaction. Right or wrong, this is the way it's done. Of course it's a free country and you can buy or not buy, but at least have enough tact and common sense to keep your intentions to yourself. Otherwise, you'll find yourself doing the pool tour at 115 degrees. Sales people can be pretty vindictive.

                  Lastly, ask yourself this: IS THE GIFT WORTH YOUR VALUABLE TIME? ARE YOU REALLY A MOOCH?
                  Those who tell don't know and those who know don't tell....

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                  • #10
                    Don't bring a cell phone with you. I was asked to provide some additional phone numbers so that they could get some contacts. I had only my fanny pack with me with no cell phone. I asked if the salesman wanted to see what I had in my fanny pack because he clearly didn't believe that I didn't have a cell phone. He said yes and watched as I took all three things out of the fanny pack. It was really pretty nervy of him. But I had nothing to hide and a $600 timeshare that had gotten me an exchange to Maui and I was visiting his resort on an extra vacation.so what did I care?

                    We got our goodies, but no tour of the resort.

                    Sue

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tonyg View Post
                      Just say no as much as possible and tell them you never buy anything that costs over $ 500 without at least a week of research.

                      This is really one of the best objections I have ever seen. They cant overcome this one.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by falmouth3 View Post
                        Don't bring a cell phone with you. I was asked to provide some additional phone numbers so that they could get some contacts. I had only my fanny pack with me with no cell phone. I asked if the salesman wanted to see what I had in my fanny pack because he clearly didn't believe that I didn't have a cell phone. He said yes and watched as I took all three things out of the fanny pack. It was really pretty nervy of him. But I had nothing to hide and a $600 timeshare that had gotten me an exchange to Maui and I was visiting his resort on an extra vacation.so what did I care?

                        We got our goodies, but no tour of the resort.

                        Sue
                        My goodness...are they really that brazen?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by charlie_m View Post
                          Sounds like we have contempt for the timeshare industry, but don't blame the salesperson. They're on straight commission, NO SALARY. That means this is their livelihood. You have never been directly lied to by a salesperson? People who choose a livelihood of promising a tour of their resort with no obligation to buy and then continue to lie to your face really are not models of integrity. It is important to acknowledge their lies, and I have never attended a tour during which I was never lied to, as it will shorten the presentation. Besides, how would you like it if someone came to your job, plopped down in front of you and announced they were there to waste your time. I agree that being honest helps. You can hardly walk down the street or through an airport in some locations without being pounced on by their bodysnatchers. This is their livelihood and they are happy to insist that you don't need to buy, since they get paid if you just show up. So we are helping someone's income in the industry.
                          Bottom line is, the game is to offer freebies and try to entice a sales transaction. Right or wrong, this is the way it's done. Of course it's a free country and you can buy or not buy, but at least have enough tact and common sense to keep your intentions to yourself. Otherwise, you'll find yourself doing the pool tour at 115 degrees. Sales people can be pretty vindictive.

                          Lastly, ask yourself this: IS THE GIFT WORTH YOUR VALUABLE TIME? ARE YOU REALLY A MOOCH? Our time is very valuable . . . no less than $300 per 90 minutes. We only tour resorts in which we are interested to purchase resale or trade into. We are early morning people so an early breakfast and some fun money is a great way to start the day.
                          I disagree so strongly that I couldn't keep my intentions to myself.

                          Jana

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                          • #14
                            BTW, there are sometimes instances that the sales manager will allow gifting without the tour. Anyone want to know how??
                            Those who tell don't know and those who know don't tell....

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                            • #15
                              OK, it's reality check time for Jana. Ready?

                              1) Not all salespeople are liars. Repeat. NOT ALL SALESPEOPLE ARE LIARS.
                              2) I am a salesperson. I don't lie. When I sold timeshare I didn't lie. Your remark is categorically offensive. I would also be curious what you do for a living.....Like if you're a doctor, ever lie or forget to change syringes?
                              3) And speaking of lying, what exactly would you call sitting in front of a "salesperson" and lying about being there in the first place. (see mooch...)
                              4) The "bodysnatchers" only snatch bodies that wish to be snatched. Ever consider saying no? Or are you that easy?
                              5) Lastly, your comment about $300 for 90 minutes proves you're a mooch. You look at this like it's a job. Income. A way to get something for nothing.

                              CAVEAT EMPTOR.
                              Those who tell don't know and those who know don't tell....

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