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[BocaBum99 Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close BocaBum99]

Boca:
Thanks God my assets and income allows me to pay cash for everything I need. My house, beach condo and Tses are all paid for. I don't know or care what my credit rating is. NOBODY can intimidate into paying for something I don't consider myself to owe by threatening my credit rating. If they think I owe them them sue a let a judge decide(not Timeos2).

If you don't care about your credit rating, then there is not much anyone can do to you. Just stop paying and ignore all the notices. They will eventually foreclose and stop sending notices.

[vintner Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close vintner]

If you don't care about your credit rating, then there is not much anyone can do to you. Just stop paying and ignore all the notices. They will eventually foreclose and stop sending notices.

And then this tread will end

[ebram Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ebram]

It is a sad state of affairs when when party(because of position)can enforce a claim against another party by itimidating the other party through a degrading of their credit rating without letting that claim be adjudicated by a non biased third party.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Intimidations and threats is/are what lawsuits are all about; another way, a ramping up to a new level, of threats and intimidation. It is sorta like when the victim ignores the threats and intimidation, the agressor says, "Hey, ignore me now, you (&$$*(*!"

My mind has been wandering to this thread (oh, that's where it's been off to!), and it occurred to me that when a person threatens and intimidates another person (typically called bullying), they can be sued.

Then, an attorney threatens, harasses and intimidates that person, and gets a way with it. Can anyone else think of another profession that is allowed to to threaten, harass and intimidate people, and get away with it?

I wonder what the divorce rate is among attorneys? I would think that after a full day of being omnipotent, of threaten, harassing and initimidating, it would be hard to come down from that euphoria, and not continue on your spouse once you got home.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

It seems to higher than among normal people.

I wonder what the divorce rate is among Internet forum moderators?

Those unhappy, unhealthy lawyers, Notre Dame magazine

I wonder what the divorce rate is among attorneys? I would think that after a full day of being omnipotent, of threaten, harassing and initimidating, it would be hard to come down from that euphoria, and not continue on your spouse once you got home.

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

... Can anyone else think of another profession that is allowed to to threaten, harass and intimidate people, and get away with it?...

Law enforcement, some political positions, DMV employees, collection agencies, timeshare salespeople and I'm sure many more.

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

I wonder what the divorce rate is among attorneys? I would think that after a full day of being omnipotent, of threaten, harassing and initimidating, it would be hard to come down from that euphoria, and not continue on your spouse once you got home.

It seems to higher than among normal people.

I wonder what the divorce rate is among Internet forum moderators?

What brought that on?

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Musta been my evil twin, somehow stealing my ID and using my ISP.

What brought that on?

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

Musta been my evil twin, somehow stealing my ID and using my ISP.

OK I had that happen on a recent thread with post mistresses.

[ebram Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ebram]

Boca:
This TSes I have problems are nonprime and floating weeks I bought when I started into Timesharing(found out cheap is not necessarly cheap. With that expierence I bought prime fixed oceanfront weeks and sre happy with them. I could sell them if I wanted to get out.

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

Instead of post mistresses why not use Postmaster or ED ? It will make your commentary clearer.

[Lisa P Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lisa P]

Timesharing is inherently unethical...

Huh? We all timeshare. What are we doing wrong?

Would it be more ethical to give a liability to someone else by selling or giving away the week ?

Yes. One man's trash is another man's treasure. But dumping trash on unwilling recipients is still illegal and wrong.

You can't sue someone for more than you owe(MF, I didn't trash the unit).What more could they possibly ask for. The statuatory costs and fees are minor.

Late fees, interest, their legal and collections costs?

Since this thread was started by asking about ethics, I'd have thought your concern was more about your legitimate recourse in dealing with perceived mismanagement of your resort. So what about that? Why go down a path that's fraught with legal wrangling and credit report issues? Ask them to take back the deed or list the week as a Freebie/$1 with a free ad/listing or on eBay. You're already paying the MF so it shouldn't be impossible. Me thinks you're heaping extra trouble on yourself by making this decision emotionally (you're frustrated with the BOD/POA) rather than logically based on dollar$ and sense.

[ebram Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ebram]

LisaP:
I don't have a signed contract with the HOA. What legal and collection fees are you talking about. All they can collect are the MF. Those other costs are associated with contractual arrangments made and agreed to by bith signed parties.

If the HOA would take off my hands no problem. PCCs get $3500.00(according to this BB) to take a TS off your hands. Many TSes don.t sell on Ebay for $1.00 even where the closing costs, transfer fees and advance MF are included. Look at some Ebay auctions if you don't believe me.

[rmitchell Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close rmitchell]

When you sign the dotted line you inherit the risk of hurricanes, people walking away and leaving you with the bill. Timeshare is not cheap and involves a lot of risk...especially if the real owner is not a great business person. I blame nobody from escaping and may do the same someday.

[timeos2 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close timeos2]

LisaP:
I don't have a signed contract with the HOA. What legal and collection fees are you talking about. All they can collect are the MF. Those other costs are associated with contractual arrangments made and agreed to by bith signed parties.

If you go in to argue this nonsense you would lose for sure. There need be no signed contract as the obligations, rules and procedures are set in the deed. They most certainly can collect penalties, collection costs and legal fees - they can often add up to multiples of the fee actually due - if you refuse to pay when due. Look at both the resort documents and state laws. Adding your own time/costs to the pile by filing a lawsuit that may not even make it to be heard (summary judgments are common when there is no basis for the lawsuit) is really beating that poor dead horse and an exercise in self flagellation. But overall it appears you are really just stirring the pot as you have said you've paid the fees and this is all pure conjecture. Interesting thread in any case.