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    I just redeemed 120, 000 for 4 tickets from Miami to guadalara and it cost me 110 in taxes per ticket. I haven't redeemed miles in years. Has the taxes on skymiles for all airlines so much money now? Thanx for any update.

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    I redeemed about 240,000 for first class ticket to Greece in September and the cost was around $78 per ticket...did this in October last year for flights this year. I've always paid the taxes and landing fee (considered Federal) whenever I've used FF miles over the years.

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    • #3
      I think it depends on where your destination is located and how much the taxes are for the departing and arriving airports.
      Chemteach can probably answer better than I though...

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      • #4
        The costs have been going up and tickets are harder to find than ever plus many airlines have been lowering your value of miles by making you use more miles to go where you want. I also paid over a $100 to go to Cancun with AA 6 months ago when I booked my flight using miles but I was happy just to use them.
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        • #5
          We paid about $73 apiece in taxes for award tickets on Northwest (one segment on Continental) between Appleton, WI and Los Cabos, MX, when I booked in January for July 2008 flights!

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          • #6
            United Airlines about $99 each

            I just booked 2 FF tickets LAX to Sydney, Austrailia on United Airlines for two weeks from now. $99 per ticket. I'm having withdrawals now though as I only have 15,000 miles in my UA account.

            I did not look at the detail but some of the cost includes fees and what not.

            Short

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            • #7
              Normal taxes from NY to Punta Cana are around $140 So if you use FF tickets then I think and could be wrong those same taxes are paid.
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              • #8
                It may only apply to flights outside the USA. My wife has gotten tickets through Delta Skymiles twice this year for just the $10 transaction fee, but it's from ID to MN.

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                • #9
                  There are two things you have to watch, some countries imposing massive taxes, and airlines scamming you by putting a surcharge that goes to the airline in the ''tax'' category. DL is the only USA based airline to do the latter, and so far only on certain routes.

                  As far as outrageous national taxes, France started it with a tax on air tickets to pay for welfare in the third world, but that tax is only about $20. Gordon Borwn of the UK made that insignificant by imposed a new tax of over US$100 on air tickets leaving the UK for the stated purpose of discouraging air travel to ''save the planet''. Starting July 1, the center-left government of the Netherlands is also imosed a similar ''save the planet'' air ticket tax of over $100. The lesson is that if you are going to Europe, do not have your departure back to the states from the UK or Netherlands.

                  The other is much more sinister and is a fraud on passengers. The practice of including a fee that goes directly to the airline in the ''tax'' category was something that started with some European carriers and is now endemic there. DL has started imposing these surcharges on tickets originzting in Europe, but is the only USA based carrier doing so. They have said that they intend to take this shady practice systemwide, and it appears that a brand new surcharge on tickets between Hawaii and California may be the first step in doing so. A few months ago, I found DL award tickets back to the states from Bucharest for my son, but DL wanted over $300 in ''taxes'' which included a $220 ''Delta surcharge''. I called NW and found tickets on better dates, and the taxes were only about $90 with no rip-off surcharge. I told DL to take a hike.

                  Now with the DL attempt to take over NW, I have a risk that if it goes through they will convert my Worldperks miles into those useless DL ''SkyPiles''. That is an absolutely dreadful prospect.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by buff
                    I just redeemed 120, 000 for 4 tickets from Miami to guadalara and it cost me 110 in taxes per ticket. I haven't redeemed miles in years. Has the taxes on skymiles for all airlines so much money now? Thanx for any update.
                    Maybe this is one of those routes where the new ''Delta surchrage'' that we have been seeing in Europe since earlier this years has kicked in. It is not a tax at all but a Delta scam where the money goes directly to the airline. When I first encountered that on a DL TATL ticket and called and asked DL what it was I was given a whole series of runarounds. First I was told it was a fee imposed by AF because part of the flight was on AF metal. When I pointed out that it was all DL metal, they came back and said it was a new French tax like Gordon Brown's massive air ticket tax in the UK. When I told them I kned that was not so, I was passed to the revenue desk who told me that it was a new ''Delta surcharge'' that was now only in some European markets, would soon go to all of Europe, and ultimately to the entire system.
                    For now, it is only imposed on TATL flights originating in Europe, not those originating in the US. The code for this surcharge, if I recall correctly, is YQ.

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                    • #11
                      May also be the fuel surcharges. Airlines are lumping these with taxes above and beyond the base fare.

                      Art

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Art View Post
                        May also be the fuel surcharges. Airlines are lumping these with taxes above and beyond the base fare.

                        Art
                        Not on award tickets for USA based airlines, with the sole exception of Delta in the European to US market and now apparently in the Hawaii market as well.

                        Other airlines are also scamming customers on revenue tickets with those fuel surcharges. The fare they quote is misleading, as it does not include these charges. Since fuel as a necessity to provide the basic service, air travel, it is totally illegitimate to seperate it out and try to hide it in the tax line. The result is false advertising as to fares that is akin to a bait and switch scam.

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                        • #13
                          Delta Sky Miles - Transfer Miles Program - Terms & Conditions


                          Taxes/Fees:


                          You will be charged $0.01 USD per mile, plus a $30 USD processing fee per transaction or as otherwise set forth on the order form. All amounts paid by the Member for the transfer of miles pursuant to this Agreement are exclusive of a U.S. federal excise tax and sales, use or privilege taxes, or tax-like charges, fees or similar liabilities. GST applies to residents of Canada on the
                          $30 USD processing fee. Miles are sold in U.S. dollars. All transfer fees for miles transferred
                          using the SkyMiles Transfer Program are nonrefundable. Taxes and fees for Award Travel
                          are the responsibility of the passenger and must be paid at the time the ticket is booked.
                          Award Travel seats are limited and may not be available on all flights or in all markets

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                          • #14
                            I just redeemed the following:

                            30,000 on AA for PHL-ACA $70.70 charge
                            25,000 on UA for PHX-EWR $10 charge
                            Pat H

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                            • #15
                              What you have quoted is from the T&C for transfering miles from one ff account to another, not for using miles for an award ticket, which is what is being discussed in this thread.



                              Originally posted by Marti View Post

                              Taxes/Fees:


                              You will be charged $0.01 USD per mile, plus a $30 USD processing fee per transaction or as otherwise set forth on the order form. All amounts paid by the Member for the transfer of miles pursuant to this Agreement are exclusive of a U.S. federal excise tax and sales, use or privilege taxes, or tax-like charges, fees or similar liabilities. GST applies to residents of Canada on the
                              $30 USD processing fee. Miles are sold in U.S. dollars. All transfer fees for miles transferred
                              using the SkyMiles Transfer Program are nonrefundable. Taxes and fees for Award Travel
                              are the responsibility of the passenger and must be paid at the time the ticket is booked.
                              Award Travel seats are limited and may not be available on all flights or in all markets

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