Scare Tactics

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

For every action there is a reaction. Sometimes things change as a result, but often someone gets hurt and it's not always the bad guys. Perhaps what we are trying to do is to get you prepared for a big disappointment.

By the way, I toured Orange Lake in 2005 and left in an hour without buying. I didn't even get to see a model unit. It's good to plan ahead.

[slnyc11 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close slnyc11]

???

So now I’m a person who is pretending to want to help others? I made my reasons for signing on here clear before. Think what you want. But there are many of us that have been scammed.

If someone that you cared about was scammed would you tell them to just lie down and take it? I know you don’t know me from a hole in the wall but try to think of it from other side. Maybe you bought resale. Maybe you were never scammed. Maybe you never felt the way the rest of us are feeling right now. It is so much easier to pass judgment when the shoe isn’t on your foot. But do me a favor. If you don’t want to help and just find it fun to kick people when they are down, find someone who wants to play because I don’t. I am trying to help myself and everyone else I have spoken to that is in the same situation as I am is doing the same.

[slnyc11 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close slnyc11]

Tonyg
Of course you left within an hour. You knew that what they were telling you was BS. The rest of us didn't

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

The fact that it was during a hurricane helped too.

[slnyc11 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close slnyc11]

LOL . As bad as it sounds I wish that were the case for me . I'm really not looking to fight with people. I just know that there are many more of us and I am trying to find them.

[rikkis_playpen Diamond Club Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close rikkis_playpen]

I've seen far too many scams lately pretending to advocate for owners!

When you openly post information about the law firm assisting with the class action, I'll be much more comfortable with your motives as I could then confirm the attorney's involvement.. As long as you try to simply collect personal information from disillusioned owners via the private message system- I'll have my doubts..

If you don't have a commitment from an attorney- you are simply further misleading unhappy owners who would be better served learning how to actually use their ownership- as that is the only way many will get any value from their timeshare ownership!

Encouraging owners to play the role of the victim won't make them any more savvy as a consumer, or any more educated in the actual usage or exchange of the interval.

[slnyc11 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close slnyc11]

You are making assumptions that I am encouraging other owners to play the role of victim. When did I say that? This forum is for owners and not everyone is as happy as you are with their purchase some people actually got scammed! Are you really going to keep posting and trying to discourage people from taking action against what is wrong? If others who have been scammed want to get in touch with me they can.

As for you I’m sure that you have never been in our situation because if you were, you would not be talking like this.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

What am I going to learn? That big companies get away with whatever they want? That is what you're trying to tell me?

Probably that you should read your contract first. There's a reason that timesahre contracts have that rescind period in them. It is suppose to protect the consumer from lying, cheating timeshare salesmen and developers. Conversly it protects the developer once that period to cancel is past.

What can you learn? Maybe how not to throw good money after bad and how to make the best of a bad decision. You can actually learn how to get the most out of your timeshare rather than waste time on a law suit that's been tried more than once.

But I'm not here to argue with you. I'm just trying to point out the obvious, which I believe you've over looked. What you have is your word against the salesmens word. What they have is a signed contract that gave you a government mandated period of time to read the contract, research your impulse purchase and cancel the contract for any reason. You're going to have a tough battle on your hands and you're probably going to learn what many of us that own timeshares will tell you. That is, you're throwing good money after bad.

[slnyc11 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close slnyc11]

If it was just my word against theirs I wouldnt do it and the lawyer would never take it. But we are a group of people. So its our word against theirs. Thank you for your opinion.

[slnyc11 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close slnyc11]

anyone else on here filied a class action lawsuit

If anyone reading this had been involved in a class action lawsuit against their timeshare company please post how it worked out for you.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

If it was just my word against theirs I wouldnt do it and the lawyer would never take it. But we are a group of people. So its our word against theirs. Thank you for your opinion.

Then post the lawyers contact information so others can join.

[slnyc11 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close slnyc11]

I will ask him if that is ok and as soon as he tells me that I can do that, I will.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

I will ask him if that is ok and as soon as he tells me that I can do that, I will.

That will help your case considerably. Until then you'll have trouble getting traction.

All serious class actions I've been asked to join have been through the law office invloved in the case. Not through an individual on a discussion forum. Law offices can be researched to determine if they're real or not. Posters on a forum are often scam artists. Not that you are a scam artist but, until proven otherwise, you're just a name in cyber space.

[vacation_family99 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close vacation_family99]

Take a look at the class action lawsuit against RCI that has been going on for years. Nothing good has happened for the owners. Look OY for the posts.

[T. R. Oglodyte Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close T. R. Oglodyte]

What am I going to learn? That big companies get away with whatever they want? That is what you're trying to tell me?

Probably that you should read your contract first. There's a reason that timesahre contracts have that rescind period in them. It is suppose to protect the consumer from lying, cheating timeshare salesmen and developers. Conversly it protects the developer once that period to cancel is past.

There's also almost certainly in there a piece of paper with your signature, in which you state that you have read and understood all of the information presented to you. It will also say that you understand the written documents comprise the entirety of the contract, and that anything you may have been told verbally that is not in the written contract is not part of the agreement.

After having personally attested to the above with your signature, you will have a weak case to now argue that you didn't understand what you were signing or that there were verbal promises made that are not being kept.

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We do understand your outrage. But we also believe that you should recognize that there have been many others in the past who have come here with similar outrage and sentiments.

We believe that you should probably catch your breath for a moment and perhaps consider the observation of Santayana that those who fail to learn the lessons of the past are condemned to repeat its mistakes.

We believe that before you let your outrage carry you, you should try to pause and think through what your situation is. We think you should realize that your legal situation is probably exceedingly poor.

We believe there is an excellent chance that you will end up expending a great of deal of energy, enthusiasm, and perhaps even some money pursuing a futile course of action. A course of action that will not only not get you one whit closer to your goal, but will also leave you even more disillusioned and discouraged, and having thrown additional money down a rat hole.

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On the other hand, we have seen people come with sentiments and outrage similar to yours, and channel those forces differently to learn how to best use what they have, extract the maximum value from it, and extricate themselves from their situation with minimized damage.

We are trying to encourage you to consider other options before you rush pell mell down a course that, frankly, seems to be driven more by emotion than by reason.

That's all. That's our perspective. You, of course, are perfectly free to do with our advice as you wish.