orange lake resorts class action lawsuit

[Hobbitess Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hobbitess]

An idle thought . . . what if consumer complaints were handled like automobile defects . . . after a handful get reported, owners get notified . . . then, suddenly, like in the Toyota situation, a whole bunch of similar experiences pour forth?

Good thought, but I suspect it's never going to happen because automobile defects are harder for the seller to dispute. If something doesn't work, or breaks under a particular kind of pressure, that's pretty easy to document. TS salespeople are more like used car salespeople, and used car salespeople have had a horrible reputation since before I was born. Which is a good way back.

I once ran across a used car lot where, at least with the cars I checked, half the time the sticker printout posted in the car's back window had skinned ten years off - THAT I could have documented fairly easily. But the sheer nonsense the salesperson tried to tell me? That would have been a lot harder to prove. Which I would guess is why dishonest used car sales people - and dishonest TS salespeople - continue to thrive, at least to the point where they create a negative image for the whole group. With that particular used car lot, even the owners were dishonest; but places where the owners are honest are still working within an environment where some of their employees consider lies S.O.P.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Sorry, I thought I was trying to save them a few thousand dollars in wasted lawyer fee's in what is most likely a futile effort at best. Somehow I didn't think that to be useless. Wasted effort in this case but not useless. My bad.

Steering them to the AG did that, which was my tact, too.

Common sense would tell you that if an AG or other government agency will not take up a consumer fraud issue, you should not take it private.

[Beth Ann Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Beth Ann]

First of all, much too much of our energy has already been wasted addressing the trollers who repeatedly and intentionally try to flare up the situation and bait us into an argument. Our final statement is this, call it what you will, judge us how you may, we don’t care about non ol owners and what your bulletin board opinions are- and you really should consider getting a life; if this is your social bonding and mental stimulus for the day.
We came together here, looking for another outlet to generate an interest group on a topic that is very sensitive to all of us, not to feed you trolls.

As stated so beautifully, you are of no value to us, unless you share in our voice, OL. With that said you are merely another aggravation and distraction and we don't care about your opinions, we will not be detoured or swayed.

Finally, if you do not like the content or the manner of speech, then what can we say, don’t respond to out post.

We have one desire to seek out those who may have existing or similar cases to ours and who would like to move forward; we know the ugly side of the timeshare industry, we know that most lawyers are crooks, we’re past that, just looking for people to share in our enthusiasm of “doing something about it!” With that said, we will leave you all with that to percolate, for endless hours.

Steering them to the AG did that, which was my tact, too.

Common sense would tell you that if an AG or other government agency will not take up a consumer fraud issue, you should not take it private.

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

Ah yes, the ol' ad hominem attack. Classic. Godwin's Law can only be a few posts away at this point.

[Hobbitess Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hobbitess]

First of all, much too much of our energy has already been wasted addressing the trollers who repeatedly and intentionally try to flare up the situation and bait us into an argument.

Just FYI, but the best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them. No one can force you to waste your energy on them (at least not on the Internet). If your "one desire" is "to seek out those who may have existing or similar cases to ours," grappling with those you consider trolls is probably not the best use of your time.

As stated so beautifully, you are of no value to us, unless you share in our voice,

Maybe it's me, but I'm pretty sure that's the attitude of a salesperson who happily lies to get someone to do what they want, then turns nasty once they realize the person isn't going to give it to them. They only care about people who give them what they want, not about whether what they're doing is right or wrong or the best for the other person. Considering your goals, if I were in your position, this is not the vibe I would try to send.

[rikkis_playpen Diamond Club Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close rikkis_playpen]

Wikipedia just got some hits!

Ah yes, the ol' ad hominem attack. Classic. Godwin's Law can only be a few posts away at this point.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

First of all, much too much of our energy has already been wasted addressing the trollers who repeatedly and intentionally try to flare up the situation and bait us into an argument. Our final statement is this, call it what you will, judge us how you may, we don’t care about non ol owners and what your bulletin board opinions are- and you really should consider getting a life; if this is your social bonding and mental stimulus for the day.
We came together here, looking for another outlet to generate an interest group on a topic that is very sensitive to all of us, not to feed you trolls.

As stated so beautifully, you are of no value to us, unless you share in our voice, OL. With that said you are merely another aggravation and distraction and we don't care about your opinions, we will not be detoured or swayed.

Finally, if you do not like the content or the manner of speech, then what can we say, don’t respond to out post.

We have one desire to seek out those who may have existing or similar cases to ours and who would like to move forward; we know the ugly side of the timeshare industry, we know that most lawyers are crooks, we’re past that, just looking for people to share in our enthusiasm of “doing something about it!” With that said, we will leave you all with that to percolate, for endless hours.

I would be more than a little interested to see how useful you find you legal team about this time next year. Unfortunately, trolls usually just troll along never to be heard from again.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

First of all, much too much of our energy has already been wasted addressing the trollers who repeatedly and intentionally try to flare up the situation and bait us into an argument. Our final statement is this, call it what you will, judge us how you may, we don’t care about non ol owners and what your bulletin board opinions are- and you really should consider getting a life; if this is your social bonding and mental stimulus for the day.
We came together here, looking for another outlet to generate an interest group on a topic that is very sensitive to all of us, not to feed you trolls.

As stated so beautifully, you are of no value to us, unless you share in our voice, OL. With that said you are merely another aggravation and distraction and we don't care about your opinions, we will not be detoured or swayed.

Finally, if you do not like the content or the manner of speech, then what can we say, don’t respond to out post.

We have one desire to seek out those who may have existing or similar cases to ours and who would like to move forward; we know the ugly side of the timeshare industry, we know that most lawyers are crooks, we’re past that, just looking for people to share in our enthusiasm of “doing something about it!” With that said, we will leave you all with that to percolate, for endless hours.

I'm a little slow, but since I was quoted in this, I guess this attack is aimed at me. Is that the way others took it?

That's strange since I was the one supporting them, getting some flak myself.

Maybe a brief Dale Carnegie course, before going to court, is in order. You know, How to Win Friends and Influence People.

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

...Maybe a brief Dale Carnegie course, before going to court, is in order. You know, How to Win Friends and Influence People.

A long time ago Dale Carnegie attended a cocktail part hosted by someone I knew and was thrown out after about 1 hour, so I'm not so sure about the winning of friends.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

A long time ago Dale Carnegie attended a cocktail part hosted by someone I knew and was thrown out after about 1 hour, so I'm not so sure about the winning of friends.

He probably said stuff, then deleted it.,

[Sydney Contributor - Bronze Find all posts View Profile Close Sydney]

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[T. R. Oglodyte Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close T. R. Oglodyte]

I'm a little slow, but since I was quoted in this, I guess this attack is aimed at me. Is that the way others took it?

That's strange since I was the one supporting them, getting some flak myself.

Maybe a brief Dale Carnegie course, before going to court, is in order. You know, How to Win Friends and Influence People.

I didn't take it all that way Jim.

If anything, you are one of the regulars (if not the only regular) that was not being attacked.

For the rest of us, I guess we're deemed trolls because we had the temerity, nay the nerve, even the audacity to express a different viewpoint.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Well, give Tony a ding for defaming Dale Carnegie.

Anyone tired of this thread yet?

I wonder how this discussion's going OY?

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

The website's Code of Conduct can be found here.
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Oh, is that where it is?

How would you find it if someone didn't tell you how to find it?

Been there and now I'm back. Wow! That's a lot to read in one sitting. I'll do Chapter 2 tomorrow.

Oh yeah, all youse that call me by name, cut that out . . . that's in the rules, that you can't do that. Sorry Tony, but we all know that's not your real name. & from now on Big Frank will be just Big.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

you are one of the regulars

Careful, some here will take issue with that.