orange lake resorts class action lawsuit

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It's not ok for big companies to take advantage of people. If Orange Lake Resorts cared about their owners as muh as they say they do this wouldn't happen. Too many of us have been scammed by them and IT'S NOT OK!

I am so sorry I ever walked into that reosrt.

So am I and their tactics to collect are so aggressive and predatory, just like their sales techniques.

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It seems that much of the argument is that "Legally" Orange Lake didn't break the law, that may stand, but the did use the risk of loss if you don't buy now and they did use false and misleading sales tactics and they did prevent you from having an opportunity of reviewing the proposal prior to being forced to accept or lose the offer. In real estate, the proposal is made and the seller or buyer, whichever the case may be has an opportunity to think on it before signing any papers. This is not the case here and furthermore it is the luring in of people not normally involved in this type of arrangement which leads them at the mercy of Orange Lake and others. Sure it is legal, but moral, not by any stretch of the imagination. Many laws on the books protect those not able to protect themselves from vultures like this group in other matters, such as repair scams on the elderly, but somehow the state seems to be in bed with this huge business of "Legally" defrauding buyers, many of which are out of state visitors whom they have no interest in protecting.
I for one must wonder if those that argue it is the buyers fault, are not just members of Orange Lake staff trying to put down those of us who do feel screwed and tattooed by OL. It seems all we can really do is do our best to make sure everyone we know of or can reach knows of the screw job of OL and do our damnedest in showing the true orange lake predatory and greedy process and their utter lack of concern of individuals once they are owners.
I have more to say, but my wife told me to keep it clean.
Some may argue semantics, but a crook is still a crook, no matter what name you attach to them even if it is spelled Orange Lake Resorts

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The industry has been slimey from the beginning but no government agency has ever been willing to take it on.

The days of the trustbusters are long gone, and the consumer is vulnerable.

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It seems to me that a Owners Association that is not controlled by Orange Lake and those that are on OL's bribe roll be created and when and IF there are enough of us, then something will be able to be done. Onesy twoesy complaints will not work, but a strong, large group of owners may be a different story. A good sized group may be able to overwhelm them so that they are forced to react. You or I have very little impact, in fact they laugh at us for the fools they have made of us, buying into their BS.

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Orange Lake Capital Management and Holiday Inn

Hi guys
I am posting this thread to let any unhappy orange lake resorts owner know, that a group of us are looking into filing a class action lawsuit against orange lake resorts. If you are interested in joining us please send me a message

Count me in
Orange Lake / Capital Management and Holiday Inn have teamed up to scam everyone out of as much money in anyway they can dream up.
I purchased a time share (Crown Park) in Gatlinburg Tenn. sold to Holiday Inn in 2009 its paid in full and my yearly maint. fees are up to date after these were paid they sent me an invoice for an additional $104.00 for membership to Holiday Inn Vacation Club I called them and refused to become a member and have been advised by Orange Lake that I cannot use my time share untill the dues are paid. More recently I recieved the deed to my Tenn. Timeshare but it is has been transferred to ownership in Orange Lake in Florida and thjey when contacted told me that Crown Park in Tennessee was no longer going to be a time share but rather a hotel type.
I need to either find someone I really hate and give them this time share or get involved in a class action suit and try to stop these criminals.
Thank you
Don Lucas

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I spose y'all have run this up the flagpole Over Yonder, where the LOL's reside.

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Count me in
Orange Lake / Capital Management and Holiday Inn have teamed up to scam everyone out of as much money in anyway they can dream up.
I purchased a time share (Crown Park) in Gatlinburg Tenn. sold to Holiday Inn in 2009 its paid in full and my yearly maint. fees are up to date after these were paid they sent me an invoice for an additional $104.00 for membership to Holiday Inn Vacation Club I called them and refused to become a member and have been advised by Orange Lake that I cannot use my time share untill the dues are paid. More recently I recieved the deed to my Tenn. Timeshare but it is has been transferred to ownership in Orange Lake in Florida and thjey when contacted told me that Crown Park in Tennessee was no longer going to be a time share but rather a hotel type.
I need to either find someone I really hate and give them this time share or get involved in a class action suit and try to stop these criminals.
Thank you
Don Lucas

A couple of things...

First, Orange bought both South Beach and Smokey Mtn from Burroughs and Chapin because it was a failed company. If they hadn't the outlook for the resorts was very poor.

Next, there are no plans to convert either location to a "Hotel Type". It will remain a points based resort. Yes, they can be booked through Holiday Inn, but with a minium two night stay.

Holiday Inn never bought the resort. Rather they developed a partnership with Orlange lake that allows them to use the name, marketing and access to the 26 million prioirty club members. For this, holdiay gets a royalty.

With the $104, you get a free membership to RCI, and Free Gold Membership to Priority Club. This is a much better deal than if you bought your RCI membership directly.

You also have many more options. You can use your points at your home resort, other club locations or any of the 4500 IHG branded hotels from HI Express at 10,000 points per night to InterContinental from 30,000 points per night on six continents. In addition, if you are short on points, you can rent (buy) points for one time use without effecting your ownership or maintenance fees.

Heck, if you don't want yours anymore, I'll buy it.

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Hi guys
I am posting this thread to let any unhappy orange lake resorts owner know, that a group of us are looking into filing a class action lawsuit against orange lake resorts. If you are interested in joining us please send me a message

When is the last time you ever heard of a consumer coming out on top in a class action lawsuit? All you will do is make the atty's rich and get a coupon for a free night stay or two. They only exist to make atty's rich.

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Sorry Tian, but the same thing has been going on for 30 years now. We have sat through five lie sessions there . . . actually four and one truthful one.

No one who matters seems to care, or want to take the issue on.

You would think that with the Internet, and the thousands of similar complaints that can be easily found, that would not be the case.

The same thing goes on every day in my state, probably every presentation, and has since the git-go, and how many do you think have filed complaints with the AG?

PS: Most of the lies are not revealed until you actually try to use your timeshare, and that, of course, is well after the rescission period. Then it is a matter of fraud, and that is what no one seems to want to touch. It must the third rail of AGing.

But, on the other hand, if you tried to prosecute every industry that lies to make a buck we would not have enough courts.

Just as an afterthought, if they told the truth about timesharing, like that the $25K unit they are trying to sell you is just like the one on eBay that is getting no bids, how many sales do you think they would make?

Has there ever been any type of undercover news reporting to expose dishonest sales practices?

[cincyfreezer Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close cincyfreezer]

mongoose if you want to buy I want to sell

A couple things back to you

I will gladly sell it to you if you are serious we can exchange Telephone numbers by e-mail mine is cincyfreezer@aol.com

First yes Burroughs and Chapin were the owners I am not aware of their financial situation at the time and I was not aware that Crown Park was failing they put up an excellent front if true

Second I purchased the timeshare pre-construction and assumed it would be something for my "children to enjoy their words not mine" after I have gone Last year It was paid off and early this year I received the deed which has been transferred to a Florida deed to a week $ at an undisclosed location. I was never told that I no longer owned in Tennessee I was never told that I must join a newly formed Club in order to use any of the things I had paid for.

Third I have 2 other time shares I do not need another RCI membership nor do I want to be a member of any club I just want the one week per year in Gatlinburg that I purchased and paid for

Fourth Maybe you got some inside info but according to Orange lake the future of Crown Park is hotel like short term stays where the money is with the frequent crowds there.

I refuse to pay the additional $104.00 The 650+ yearly maintenance fees are enough when coupled with the $199.00 transaction fee that is now assessed when you use your points.

Thanks for the info though

Don Lucas

A couple of things...

First, Orange bought both South Beach and Smokey Mtn from Burroughs and Chapin because it was a failed company. If they hadn't the outlook for the resorts was very poor.

Next, there are no plans to convert either location to a "Hotel Type". It will remain a points based resort. Yes, they can be booked through Holiday Inn, but with a minium two night stay.

Holiday Inn never bought the resort. Rather they developed a partnership with Orlange lake that allows them to use the name, marketing and access to the 26 million prioirty club members. For this, holdiay gets a royalty.

With the $104, you get a free membership to RCI, and Free Gold Membership to Priority Club. This is a much better deal than if you bought your RCI membership directly.

You also have many more options. You can use your points at your home resort, other club locations or any of the 4500 IHG branded hotels from HI Express at 10,000 points per night to InterContinental from 30,000 points per night on six continents. In addition, if you are short on points, you can rent (buy) points for one time use without effecting your ownership or maintenance fees.

Heck, if you don't want yours anymore, I'll buy it.

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Has there ever been any type of undercover news reporting to expose dishonest sales practices?

cuz?

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It seems to me that a Owners Association that is not controlled by Orange Lake and those that are on OL's bribe roll be created and when and IF there are enough of us, then something will be able to be done. Onesy twoesy complaints will not work, but a strong, large group of owners may be a different story. A good sized group may be able to overwhelm them so that they are forced to react. You or I have very little impact, in fact they laugh at us for the fools they have made of us, buying into their BS.

That is the key. Most of the horror stories come out of the resorts where the board is controlled by a developer dictatorship. What is needed is for members to organize and oust developer control. Unfortunately, the larger the resort is, the harder and more expensive that is to do. In most states, the state law allows members to obtain a mailing list of members to advocate for their own candidates in board elections, although many of the arrogant resort dictatorships will thumb their nose at such laws as long as they think they can get away with it. Worldmark, a major scofflaw, thumbed it nose at such a law in California, was taken to court and fought it all the way to the state Supreme Court, even though they lost in court at every stage.

Personally, I avoid the problem by just never buying at any timeshare where the board is under the thumb of a developer dictatorship.

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This topic has been batted around for ten years. The difference now is that all the owners are not LOLs. Now the angst is coming from within, in a forum where the LOLs do not overpower it with posting proliferation.

Not all the stink at OL comes from Reedy Creek.

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[QUOTE=cincyfreezer;496254]A couple things back to you


Second I purchased the timeshare pre-construction and assumed it would be something for my "children to enjoy their words not mine" after I have gone Last year It was paid off and early this year I received the deed which has been transferred to a Florida deed to a week $ at an undisclosed location. I was never told that I no longer owned in Tennessee I was never told that I must join a newly formed Club in order to use any of the things I had paid for.

Don,

If in fact you signed a contract for a deed in TN and they transferred it to FL without your written approval, I would talk with a real estate atty. I bought a resale unit for the SC location this year and received a deed for the SC location.

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This topic has been batted around for ten years. The difference now is that all the owners are not LOLs. Now the angst is coming from within, in a forum where the LOLs do not overpower it with posting proliferation.

Not all the stink at OL comes from Reedy Creek.

More evidence that time is the best friend of the truth.