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  • I am a former Timeshare Resaler. Please listen.

    I worked for a company called International Timeshare Network. It's been brought up here in other threads and I just responded to one.

    I'm basically opening up this thread because I know the ins and outs of the business and I can help you make the RIGHT decision to selling your timeshare.

    Companies like I worked for and others are really just scammers when it all boils down to it. Some are worse than others. My company actually covered themselves pretty well, but at the end of the day, they aren't doing what they told you on the phone that they are doing. No matter what they say, they are a listing agency.

    I'm not here to promote anyone or promote myself. I honestly don't even know a good company TO promote, but I'm here to help you. Let me be that voice of reason before you hand these people your credit cards. If they want money up front, just say no.

    If you want to list your timeshare on a website (and why WOULD YOU? You didn't BUY it that way, more than likely...why do you think it will SELL that way?) do it through Craigslist, Ebay, and Redweek. The three combined will cost you less than $50 or so. You'll get about the same results as listing with scam companies, but you'll spend a lot less. The scam companies do sometimes trip and fall and sell a property from their website, but for much less than what you paid, more than likely...so take your chances and do it for less than $50.

    All this being said...the one good thing about all these companies that list properties is that they are starting a revolution on PURCHASING timeshares that they didn't intend. If you're in the market for a timeshare, and you don't mind parting with a few dollars, some of these people would GIVE it to you just to get out of their maintenance fees...literally. Others will do it for a thousand dollars or two. Some less. Why pay retail and get hassled by the whole timeshare industry when you can buy it so cheap?

    These are just my $.02. Take them as you will, and if you have any questions, please contact me here via email or PM. I'll always answer.

  • #2
    Thanks for the offer. However, please forgive me for being skeptical. I think you should get yourself up to 100 or more posts of truly helpful information before anyone should trust you. Too many scam artists have come here with first posts such as yours.
    My Rental Site
    My Resale Site

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    • #3
      Not the usual self-serving post, and the info is pretty much what us know-it-alls would recommend.

      I'll give it one thumb up.
      RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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      • #4
        So Mr or Mrs Former Reseller, just curious why you are all of a sudden jumping the fence to the other side and so willing to help us stuck owners all of a sudden.

        Is that part of your restitution? Are you being ordered by a court to make amends. Yeah I'm kinda skeptical too, but just wondering why all of a sudden you wanna be the good guy/gal.

        Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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        • #5
          Some people have consciences. Some have bad dreams and can't sleep at night. Some get tired of lying and cheating. Some just get fed up with the BS.
          RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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          • #6
            I know it is our MO to be skeptical, but if you read the OP's post it essentially says:

            * Don't buy retail.
            * Don't trust upfront fee companies.
            * Use established resale channels

            It's not as though that's terrible advice---may be well-known to those of us here, but if there is an angle, I don't see it yet.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bnoble
              I know it is our MO to be skeptical, but if you read the OP's post it essentially says:

              * Don't buy retail.
              * Don't trust upfront fee companies.
              * Use established resale channels

              It's not as though that's terrible advice---may be well-known to those of us here, but if there is an angle, I don't see it yet.
              I agree. Give the guy a chance. Some people are already accusing him without any evidence. I realize he didn't really tell us anything that most of us don't already know but he didn't say anything that would make me be suspicious of his motive.
              John

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BocaBum99
                Thanks for the offer. However, please forgive me for being skeptical. I think you should get yourself up to 100 or more posts of truly helpful information before anyone should trust you. Too many scam artists have come here with first posts such as yours.
                Jim I would agree with you 99% of the time but I think this is the 1% that I think I will disagree, From his post he sounds to be on the up and up. The only thing I find wrong is that he named his company but it was a negative plug not a positive one.
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                • #9
                  I would like to give this guy a chance here, and tell us his story.

                  I edited out my original comments.
                  Flying at MACH4 +

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bigfrank View Post
                    Jim I would agree with you 99% of the time but I think this is the 1% that I think I will disagree, From his post he sounds to be on the up and up. The only thing I find wrong is that he named his company but it was a negative plug not a positive one.
                    I said I was skeptical. If you are not skeptical, we will see after 100 posts.
                    My Rental Site
                    My Resale Site

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BocaBum99
                      I said I was skeptical. If you are not skeptical, we will see after 100 posts.
                      If we don't cut him some slack he will not stay to make it to 100 posts. My motto which you should know is give them some slack from the rope so in time they do get caught ling , the rope is there to hang them selves with.
                      Timeshareforums Shirts and Mugs on sale now! http://www.cafepress.com/ts4ms

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                      • #12
                        It reminds me of a guy I knew, from SOCAL, who felt he was superior to the locals, and who, among other things, sold timeshares (where I now own and play golf). In our first social occasion we talked about timeshares. Of course, I talked about the things we talk about on these forums, and that really upset him. He started started yelling at me, and we left.

                        A couple years later, with the inevitable approaching, he asked me if I could do anything about his Pacifica Club timeshares, saying he knew I was on the Internet doing stuff like that every day, and I knew more about it than he did.

                        http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17517

                        In retrospect, that took a lot of courage.

                        In his last couple of years, we became the people he counted on, and we became close.

                        Often I have thought how nice it would be if someone from the dark side truly came over, and talked about all the things we know go on, but never had anyone actually confirm. It would be nice for the powers-that-be that we know lurk and monitor, to hear it from someone other than us.

                        So bring it on, tell us what it's like, tell us all the things you did to get a signature. I was in direct sales for ten years, and it often turned my stomach, so you can't shock me.

                        I think he pretty much knows now there's nothing in it for him, here, other than cleansing his soul.
                        RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                        • #13
                          Many years ago, I got a job selling furniture. I thought it would be fun, and I didn't know any better. Turns out, I was pretty good at it. But after a while, I found that the fat paychecks weren't worth going home and not feeling good about myself. So I quit, and went and found a job I didn't feel guilty about. There's so much deception in many sales jobs, car sales, furniture sales and obviously timeshare sales.

                          Cut the guy a break. He is new to the forum (as am I), and he comes in with his tail between his legs offering to help the industry instead of hurt it. Nowhere in his post did he suggest he was in it for himself. My thumb is up for his honesty and good intentions, until he proves otherwise.

                          Just my 2 cents worth, your mileage may vary.

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                          • #14
                            You're right CraigVince.
                            I too am a real estate sales person so call me cynical but I've been thru all those training sessions where you learn to work your sphere of influence. Well today it's work the social media sphere, so I do tend to see spots where there may be no leopard. It was part of my training.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by chriskre
                              So Mr or Mrs Former Reseller, just curious why you are all of a sudden jumping the fence to the other side and so willing to help us stuck owners all of a sudden.

                              Is that part of your restitution? Are you being ordered by a court to make amends. Yeah I'm kinda skeptical too, but just wondering why all of a sudden you wanna be the good guy/gal.

                              Not that there's anything wrong with that.
                              I can completely understand anyone's skepticism here.

                              My answer to any of this is pretty simple. At first, even I completely believed what I was telling people. Someone kinda "joked" about it a few times when I brought it up, so it started to make me skeptical myself. I then decided to go to the convention center myself one day and discovered that we were indeed lying to people. I hung on for a few more weeks thinking I could do it (because the money is pretty good) but ultimately, once I discovered that it was a lie, I simply couldn't sell it anymore.

                              I was promptly terminated and was glad to be so....even though the termination was pretty mutual. I went to them and told them I couldn't do it, anymore...so they fired me.

                              I realize that I truly hurt some people when I first began, and I, to be honest, just don't feel really good about it. I decided that this was my pennance, and my mission. Nobody's gonna get hammered again...not on my watch.

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