Greed... It's what brings them in!!!

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

Usually it's the timeshare salesman that has no idea what he is talking about. Most of them also lie about owning timeshares themselves.

[brucecz Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close brucecz]

Greed, why people become resort sales people.

Your postings show that you that you are not very knownlegdeable about the various timeshare programs out their. You sound like a Newbie.

The reason I say that is you only own one timeshare ownership and on that one you got suckered in to over paying by paying the developer price.

Some of us presently own more than 10 ownerships and some of us have owned 25 or more differant ownerships over the years.

I doubt that your resort for the money you paid for it, can do for the same amount of money of what our ownerships can do. If you care to dispute that, please make a bet as I would be happy to take your money. I will be happy to cover any foolish bet of your up what you can afford to lose.

What is the resort that you vastly over paid for that you are so proud of? When you said a 5 star resort it leads me to think it is a II resort.

In regard to the body snacthers that book the tours they are hired by the resort delevopers, so that is the delevopers fault, not ours. The developers sets the rules for the tour, not people like us so go whine to your developer if the terms of your enployment are in your opinion unfair to you and ask them to change the rules to help you.

Now we always have the body snacthers right down on the appointment slip that we own timeshares and we are not going to buy but are interested in checking out their resort for a future trade.

Of course the developer's sales force thinks they can sell us even though we have been completely up front with them. I also tell them that if they miss present or lie I will bust them if and when they try do it.

I also tell them they got a bad sit but that is to be exspected every once in a while as they can not exspect to have a roll over every time.

Then one of the tactics they are using now is they they use is that they say we are taking the bread and butter off of their tables.

My stock reply is if I was to pay their bloated prices I would not only be taking the bread and butter off of our table but off of our grown childrens and grandchildrens table by lessing their inheritance if I paid their bloated developers prices.

Normally our tours last about 45 mintues to an hour. Sometimes 1/2 an hour or less. The shortest was less than one mintue when we gave them a printout of one of our ownerships.

If the final closer tells us we definately have to sit there for another 45 minutes in the "Bullpen" to collect our gift I simply tell the sales manger-closer that I am enjoying their coffee and look foward to asking the other "mopes" and "smucks" if they are aware of ebay and TS sites likes this. Funny, after saying that we are usally gifted in about 2 mintes or less and are on our way.

I would love to do a tour with you. What is your resort? Or a least tell us what city you are in. We go on about one timeshare trip a month and would be happy to visit your resort for a tour if it might be something we might be interested in exchanging in to. We even rent out some of our weeks and flip a few.

Quote" I recieve a magazine that is distributed amongst employees at some resorts that gives the definition for all timeshare terms and it states as follows:

"Points are a symbolic unit of measure having NO intrinsic value".

That's why you can buy point packages for pennies on the dollar all day long on sites like ebay and many others."Unquote

IMHO the part of of your post I quoted above is very weak and inaccurrate on your part.

Oh by the mix of resorts we own are afillated with II, RCI weeks, RCI Points and Bluegreen Points, etc. The simlpe fact is seeing that you have only one ownership week you can not have access to the various weeks that we do.

Bruce

PS, most points ownerships have uderlying deeded property so your statement about Points is mostly incorrect in regards to the RCI Points and Bluegreen Points ownerships that we own. But most of the up to possible 2,000,000 yearly RCI Points we can have would come from the weeks for points program.

Honestly you have no idea what you're talking about. Yes you may be able to maintain the number of days at your own resort, if you're very very lucky. But I think you'll find later down the road that your phone starts ringing more and more with your resort advising you to buy more to maintain the level you're accustomed to. That's what points were made to do. They were made so the resort would not have to sell their actuall property and to keep a continuos flow of new new money coming in, even from people that had already bought. You can say what you want but trust me, you will find out what I'm saying is true. I'm not saying this to be mean but just to be honest so you know what you have. I recieve a magazine that is distributed amongst employees at some resorts that gives the definition for all timeshare terms and it states as follows:

"Points are a symbolic unit of measure having NO intrinsic value".

That's why you can buy point packages for pennies on the dollar all day long on sites like ebay and many others.

If it cost you 12000 points for a weeks stay at your home resort today, trust me, 15 years from now it WILL cost you more. You can believe what you want, but it will. That's why points were created.

I own a deeded week at a 5 star resort in one of the most demanded areas in the US. We are a top 20 resort world wide. Your points WILL NEVER TRADE higher than what I own. I'm sorry, it's just the truth. I know you don't believe that and I'm not trying to cause an argument but thats a fact.

[katiemack Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close katiemack]

Well done, Bruce!

[VVTrader Member Find all posts View Profile Close VVTrader]

Worth The Wait

Just to hear Bruce speak.

Way to go Bruce!

Joe

[BoardGirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BoardGirl]

Honestly you have no idea what you're talking about. Yes you may be able to maintain the number of days at your own resort, if you're very very lucky. But I think you'll find later down the road that your phone starts ringing more and more with your resort advising you to buy more to maintain the level you're accustomed to. That's what points were made to do. They were made so the resort would not have to sell their actuall property and to keep a continuos flow of new new money coming in, even from people that had already bought. You can say what you want but trust me, you will find out what I'm saying is true. I'm not saying this to be mean but just to be honest so you know what you have. I recieve a magazine that is distributed amongst employees at some resorts that gives the definition for all timeshare terms and it states as follows:

"Points are a symbolic unit of measure having NO intrinsic value".

That's why you can buy point packages for pennies on the dollar all day long on sites like ebay and many others.

If it cost you 12000 points for a weeks stay at your home resort today, trust me, 15 years from now it WILL cost you more. You can believe what you want, but it will. That's why points were created.

I own a deeded week at a 5 star resort in one of the most demanded areas in the US. We are a top 20 resort world wide. Your points WILL NEVER TRADE higher than what I own. I'm sorry, it's just the truth. I know you don't believe that and I'm not trying to cause an argument but thats a fact.

Anyone that says "Trust Me" more than once is not to be trusted.

Why would I grant credibility to a resort employee magazine definition?? That means nothing to me, tho you are free to blindly follow it. The points I own have value in their barter ability. They also have value should I choose to sell.

I don't really care to trade into "a top 20" so your spiel holds little appeal for me. I know what I own and I will still own it in 10 years and be able to use it. My points have a week underlying them, so please don't paint all points systems with the same brush because honestly, you don't know what you're talking about.

[shaggy Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close shaggy]

Don't laugh, my very first ts was bought from the developer with a young lady named Candy. She is probably one of the best salespeople I've ever met. I paid way too much for my week a blue studio at the Yachtsman in MB, 4200 but she talked me out of buying out of the whole package which was 12K as she wanted me to take it easy. We became friends and have remained so and that was 20 yrs ago. Not all ts salespeople are sleazes but most are in it for themselves. You douth protest too loudly about how honest you are to be believable. shaggy

[RedMan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RedMan]

My wife and I stopped by a Bluegreen resort on our way home from a vacation to check it out and look at the model rooms. The front desk sent us to the sales office for help in looking at the rooms. A sales person kindly showed us the rooms (we had about a five minute wait) and along the way asked if we were interested in purchasing. We told him that we had already purchased and were just passing through. Nothing more was discussed about this.

After touring the rooms (he gave us plenty of time to look and was very friendly) we went back to the sales office and he took some time to explain some things to us about the vacation club (no pressure) and alot about exchanging through RCI. He told us to make use of our weekends (Bonus Time) and he showed us pictures of his family vacations.

We are new to this timeshare thing and this sales person was very helpful (with no obligation). Our children were treated to soft drinks and cookies (my outward son basically helped himself). All in all, this was a pleasant experience. We received no gifts and not even a business card.

Maybe he was banking on future sales but I did not get that impression at all.

I have also been under the gun of a high pressure sales presentation. That is something I will try to avoid from now on. My vacation time is worth way more than the gifts and my stress level does not need it.

[wandering gnome Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close wandering gnome]

Redman,

Which bluegreen resort did you visit?

[RedMan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RedMan]

We actually checked out the amenities and rooms at all the BG resorts in the Daytona Beach area while we were there.

This particular one was the Daytona Seabreeze. This was also the only one that referred us to the sales office. The rest of them just let us look at the rooms.

[Marcia3641 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Marcia3641]

I spent the last 1 1/2 reading this thread...

And people at work kept looking at me because I was laughing so loud the entire time. This is one of the best threads I ever read. It was informative and also very funny. I thought for sure someone on the site would of cut it off, but I'm glad they didn't. This was great!

Marcia

[katiemack Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close katiemack]

And people at work kept looking at me because I was laughing so loud the entire time. This is one of the best threads I ever read. It was informative and also very funny. I thought for sure someone on the site would of cut it off, but I'm glad they didn't. This was great!

Marcia

Glad you had such a fun and informative time reading this one! We don't cut off threads, even when there is a diversity of opinion....too bad, tho, it seems as the OP couldn't keep up with the experienced folks here! He should have stayed around, he might have learned some more!

[nursetanya1973 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close nursetanya1973]

I was wondering what had happened to this thread. I quit looking at it after my last post because I was getting very aggravated. After others jumped in about the points' sytems, I left it to them. The last thing I need is stress over something like this.

Glad someone had fun with it, though.

[1950bing Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 1950bing]

Hey !!!!!!!!
If you tell me you want to give me something for free and I don't have to buy a thing........................... I'm game.
Don't blame me !!!!!!!!!!!
If you didn't want me there in the first place, why use a hook to get me there??????????????? Maybe you should change yourself and stop blaming people.

[Beaglemom3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Beaglemom3]

Q: How can you tell when a timeshare developer's salesman is lying ?



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A: Everytime his lips move.

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I wondered why this old thread came back up...

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