Timeshare hassles and ripoffs

[Caesar540 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Caesar540]

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how do you know shopgirl? What proof do you have, If you can show me proof then I might agree with you.

Ok, someone here tell me all the details of what I was selling.

Obviously you do not even know what it offers as you have not purchased the membership yourselves.

[somerville Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close somerville]

Ok, someone here tell me all the details of what I was selling.

Global Resorts Network utilizes a multi-level marketing compensation plan called perpetual leverage.

[shopgirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close shopgirl]

You're not the first person to come here with your sales scheme! We are used to shills from various companies and con artists.

I did a search on Google a while back on this company and found the entire sales pitch-- how to deliver it and how much you can make. Google is a fascinating tool.

[M. Henley Class President Find all posts View Profile Close M. Henley]

A Waste of Time

You might as well throw in the towel. The denizens of this board are super sharp when it comes to timeshare (and many, many other things). They caught on to you when you did your first post.
Go find a gullible sucker to work your nefarious scheme on.

how do you know shopgirl? What proof do you have, If you can show me proof then I might agree with you.

Ok, someone here tell me all the details of what I was selling.

Obviously you do not even know what it offers as you have not purchased the membership yourselves.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

Ok, someone here tell me all the details of what I was selling.

Obviously you do not even know what it offers as you have not purchased the membership yourselves.

OK, you're selling air and a promise of vacations in resorts that give you no control over inventory. You're selling access to excess inventory that is not guarenteed now or in the future. Essentially, you're selling a kiss and a promise and the only thing anyone has to show for it is a checkbook that's a lot lighter and a worthless piece of paper.

In short, you're selling nothing. Your product has no value past the promises made by a company that relies on a multi level marketing (leverage marketing is the same thing with a new name) scheme that borders on a pyramid scheme. At least with most multi level marking scheme's there is a product. This one only has a promise and one that is dependent on an oversupply of a product that is bought and paid for by other people. If those other people decide to use what they OWN then you have nothing to offer.

So, did I about cover it?

I don't have to eat a terd to know that it tastes bad. I don't have to buy your product to know that it's a waste of money.

[eal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close eal]

What amazes me the most about this thread is that there are 7 pages of responses to this guy. Deathly silence to the first post would make more sense.

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

Au contraire, we must demonstrate to these critters that their cons will be outed on sites such as this so that those without knowledge do not fall for their empty promises and short lived vacation con.

[eal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close eal]

How about just one response then, with a note something like "please ignore this scam post" and then leave it.

When Mark at SFX posted a press release on the Ask SFX thread about their scheme to get into the fractionals business, there was not one response, which I thought showed excellent restraint on the part of timeshareforums members.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

How about just one response then, with a note something like "please ignore this scam post" and then leave it.

When Mark at SFX posted a press release on the Ask SFX thread about their scheme to get into the fractionals business, there was not one response, which I thought showed excellent restraint on the part of timeshareforums members.

Wouldn't that take all the fun out of a discussion or debate? Most people need more than one post or thought to come to their own conclusion. I feel sorry for anyone that falls for this vacation club scam which sells nothing, guarentee's nothing and in which all you own is piece of paper with a promise only as good as the company that stands behind it and, when they're out of business, then all you have left is that piece of paper which is, of course, only worth the paper it's printed on.

[Caesar540 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Caesar540]

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lol, how can you say that it is just a bunch of promises that cannot be kept? Have you used the membership? Do you know people who use the membership?

wow somerville, you really explained alot in your post.

You cannot define this as a pyramid scheme. If you actually get your head out of your (.....) and look at the details, then you will see that this pay plan cannot be considered a pyramid.

If you look at the company's record, you will find that there are no complaints against it. This is a 20 year old membership.

I have a membership and I know what I get, I can go look at the site and see what is available and how much it costs.

You do realize that alot of people that are getting into this are people who have purchased timeshares, worked in the industry or are businessmen looking for a good opportunity.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

Yes, I have used a similar membership with Travel More Now. I did get suckered into a vactation program that is exactly as described by your company. The only difference is the Leverage scheme used to recruit the unsuspecting and sell your friends up the river to make money.

You get the standard lies that they can get you the best airfare, the best vacation rentals cheap, the best cruise deals et..... What they say is "at the lowest price." What you don't realize is that it's no lower than if you booked it online yourself. The vacation inventory is left over TS's that haven't been used by owners. LEFTOVERS, not first choice but what no one else that owns the timeshares wants.

You own NOTHING except for a promise that is only as good as the company and, if that company leaves the business, all you have is a piece of paper. They get you to pay $2,000 + up front, then yearly membership fee's and then rental fee's. For what? Mostly less than 5 star or gold crown accomadations. The Las Vegas resort on the web site given as an example I recognize. It's the old Epic Desert Paradise that has gone through a LOT of problems, finally ending up as a Sunterra property but far from one of the best in Vegas.

I bought a one bedroom TS off E-bay for $285 with MF's, at the time of $195. That is LESS than the joiner fee, the yearly membership fee plus rental fee for the travel club AND I actually have a DEED to something I OWN and I get much better exchanges using the timeshare I own than the vacation club could offer. Heck, with this one bedroom Branson TS I can see Polo Towers, Jockey Club, Carriage House, Tahiti and Club Del Soliel. All of which are superior to Desert Paradise and most are five star resorts.

Your program is nothing but air and a piece of paper and this is coming from someone who got suckered. For the money I spent I have absolutely NOTHING to show for it. All you want to do is make $$ for yourself and the heck with the vacations. It's a great concept as far as selling soap but it really sucks when selling vacations.

[Caesar540 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Caesar540]

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i have only heard good things about this from its members. Yes I do plan on using the membership. How do you know what I am going to do?

There is a one time membership fee and no yearly fees. You only pay when you use it.

I have researched some of the resorts, comparing them to this memberships prices. There is alot of money to be saved.

[BoardGirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BoardGirl]

i have only heard good things about this from its members. Yes I do plan on using the membership. How do you know what I am going to do?

There is a one time membership fee and no yearly fees. You only pay when you use it.

I have researched some of the resorts, comparing them to this memberships prices. There is alot of money to be saved.

You only pay when you use it.
How much for 7 nights?

I have researched some of the resorts, comparing them to this memberships prices. There is alot of money to be saved.
What ones at what prices?

Show me facts.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

i have only heard good things about this from its members. Yes I do plan on using the membership. How do you know what I am going to do?

There is a one time membership fee and no yearly fees. You only pay when you use it.

I have researched some of the resorts, comparing them to this memberships prices. There is alot of money to be saved.

If it works for you then great. But somewhere down the line you're going to realize that you own nothing but a piece of paper and you're limited to what people who actually own the timeshares don't use or, what's left over after everyone's picked over the best of the best. It's like being the last one in line at a buffet when they only put food out once. So long as you're not particular and don't want several choices in one location then maybe you'll be find. But don't delude yourself into thinking OWNING is a ripoff, hassle or that a vacation membership is a better way. It's not.

You keep challenging people saying they haven't done both so they can't speak from experience. Well, I HAVE done both. Vacation clubs have a LOT of limitations to them and, at the end of the day, you've probably spent a few thousand dollars on the membership fee (in my case it was $2,995) and have absolutely nothing to show for it other than a companies promise that you'll get your choice from a pool of excess timeahare unit inventory.

[shopgirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close shopgirl]

The growth of this company is astounding! The first time I searched for the company, I found a few websites, but now there are pages and pages of people trying to get others to buy into the program. It is growing exponentially but the vacations are not, I guarantee it. The inventory is going to be diluted down to nothing with so many people joining. Plus, exchange companies can pull the inventory whenever they choose, so you really got a bad deal.

The reason timeshare is not diluted is that timeshares are attached to real property. Even point systems must make sure they do not sell an outrageous number of points per unit.

You were sold promises with no real property to back them.