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[Christine2000 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Christine2000]

A company I found online claims they can help me with --Cancelling a contract past the recission time and get a full refund?... has anyone used this company before? I found them online and they claim 100% success rate. It sounds really good because I feel that I was pressured into the upgrade of my timeshare from Wyndham, a year ago.


this company is Shill posting all over and now they are using the PM system to gain peoples Trust. If anyone receives a PM asking about this company please forward it to me. I am about to just ban a whole area of IPs just to get rid of these Shills once and for all. BF

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

Are they asking for money upfront from you to start the process? If they are it's bunk. Even if they aren't it maybe bunk.

Who are they?

[Bill4728 Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Bill4728]

It is likely that they are full of it.

People have been sometimes sucessful in rescinding a short time after the rescind period have ended. ( They missed the deadline by a couple of days) After that you must prove fraud. Proving fraud is very hard and not likely to be 100%.

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

There are some that make that claim over in Europe and the UK. What they really want is your money or to sell you another timeshare or vacation club. It was just a matter of time until the scam was imported here.

[Christine2000 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Christine2000]

He asked me what my situation was and claimed that he can help cancel my contract based on Fraud... Thier high pressure sales tactics and statements said to me, little did I know, were untrue and illegal for them to say... they used to work for the timeshare companies and claim to know 'inside' info and said they know what forms to fill and what to say to get the contract cancelled...is it worth the $1000?

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

...is it worth the $1000?

NO!

You can learn how to use what you bought to your advantage but you are way past getting what you paid from the developer

[Jya-Ning Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close Jya-Ning]

is it worth the $1000?

No.

It is your credit score. Very likely they will collect your money, told you not pay, then in 10 month you can not find them, or they told you your claim has fraud.

At that moment, they didn't do what they suppose to do, what is your recourse?

More easier is if you get proof and it is in written, file a claim yourselves.

Jya-Ning

[Christine2000 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Christine2000]

Thank You All For Your Advice... Well Taken ! I Will Steer Away From Them... Thank You Again...

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

What the original timeshare salesman says is not contractual - what the paperwork says is the contract. This outfit that claims they can get you out of the contract is composed of a bunch of scumbags that will do anything for money. My guess is they will vanish soon or end up in jail for fraud.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

Oral contracts, while binding, can be tough to enforce in the absence of proof. Unless you can prove what the TS salesman told you then the only thing these guys will get is your money. A court of law is going to look at the written contract you signed, look at the fact you had a period of time to review the contract in which you could have canceled the deal and then tell you and these scumbags that you're off your rocker, pay the contract.

If they could prove fraud they wouldn't be after your $1,000. They'd be after a class action law suit and seeking millions from the timeshare industry. But, since that ain't going to happen they'll gladliy con people out of another $1,000.

So, let's see, the timeshare is sold with a few lies. Then when someone wants out you get one company promising to sell your timeshare for what you paid for it (for an upfront fee), another company willing to take your timeshare off your hands (IF it's paid off and IF you give them $2,995 upfront) and now comes this group claiming for $1,000 they can get you out of a valid written contract. Is there a big tatoo across timeshare owners foreheads that reads SUCKER or what?

[Jya-Ning Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close Jya-Ning]

Is there a big tatoo across timeshare owners foreheads that reads SUCKER or what?

No, the way I see it, it is a big tatoo say "I have extra money that I can afford paying extra without hard investigation"

Jya-Ning

[Erik Fitz Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Erik Fitz]

The Owners Advocate worked for me!

Hi Christine2000! Be careful what you read on this site. I sometimes think it is run by timeshare companies and salesmen. Here's my story and I'm a Dentist.

It's interesting that everyone has something to say even if they don't know what they're talking about. This company saved my wife and I a lot of money so to see them thrown under the bus doesn't seem fair. None of you have had any experience with them but you're all speculating the worst. Calling them scumbags and liars without even knowing them is pretty sad. Typical of the negativity I find here alot. I usually just read and never post but I felt I had to speak up.

We were well past our rescission period (about 1 year) and I was fed up with Wyndham/ Fairfield when I found The Owners Advocate. They offered a warranty that said if they didn't do what they said I'd get my money back and they went to work on our case immediately. They don't approach it like an attorney would. Interestingly enough they guided us through the right way to prepare and present the information so that it scared the resort into taking us seriously. They helped us with details that proved misrepresentation and fraud. Details we kind of remembered but couldn't articulate. We worked with Scott and Michelle and they were extremely helpful and nice. They did all the paperwork for us and even contacted the Resort. I did pay $999.00 but that was the best money I ever spent. I had asked an attorney to help me before I hired The Owners Advocate but he wanted $2500.00 just to write a letter. The documents were awesome. I felt like I had hired an attorney.

A couple weeks later The Quality Control Manager from the resort called us and asked us some questions about what we had written then someone from the Legal Dept. at Wyndham called us and apologized and we were released from our contract. Mind you the sales rep tried to talk us out of cancelling and so did his manager but we let Scott talk to them for us and they didn't call back. We had to promise Wyndham not to send our other letters to the other agencies that The Owners Advocate had prepared us to talk to.

What I gathered from Scott and I'm no lawyer but I am a Dentist so I think I have some intelligence (except for when I bought my timeshare) was they misrepresented the product to us, made false promises to us, intentionally misled us and based on the info Scott helped us prepare they released us from the contract and refunded our money. Honestly it was stuff I think they knew from being in the business before and they knew how to relate it to the powers that be I guess. Anyhow I am off my soap box. I just think we should state facts to help each other and try not to speculate just in case we might be wrong.

Maybe Christine really needs some help. I know we did.

Erik

[Jya-Ning Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close Jya-Ning]

I just think we should state facts to help each other and try not to speculate just in case we might be wrong.

Erik

That I agree. I also believe if you think you can help, you may want to state clearly what you say to scae the Wyndham off.

I also know someone just write some letter and go to small claim court with TS developer and won without paying any money.

If you can won, you can won.

I also find it is very interesting to have a some people claim he is a dentist, go find this site joint today and post the 1st post and claim like he has looking this site for a while and know what kind of people this site has while claim he has personal experience with the question company, and know all the detail about that company.

I believe honest is better, alas, most of the time, I found people just post 1 or 2 posts for praising for certain company, and never bother to make any other help. I feel really bad about company like that.

Jya-Ning

[Glitter Brunello Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Glitter Brunello]

Well done, Jya-Ning.

Erik the Dentist: We help people here every day, without charging them a penny. The negativity is directed at the scammers out there, not at the owners who come here for genuine education and assistance.

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

I have a thing about new posters promoting a questionable company and I've also had some problems with the ethics of timeshare involved dentists- the last one was a shill poster and shill bidder on Ebay. I find it to be a bit suspicious that someone who got out of a timeshare would suddenly wander into a timeshare forum and make their first post praising a questionable company and Eric Fitz that profile.