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  • Wyndham worldwide - Cendant Spin off, RCI branch

    Here is the presentation about the new company that contains the hotel business, RCI and vacation rental branch, and TS branch (FF& TW). It was post in FF's Yahoo group by Glenn first.

    It is for investor, so it contains a lot of interest numbers.

    If look from RCI, renting earns about the same as exchange. So in any forseeable future, RCI will not go away from rent unless it loss in the on-going legal fight.

    Their TS selling expense is 50%, I though I saw Perry's post about 35% to 40% for WM. Guess FF's selling cost is too high. Consider there is close to 50 years of history on TS, it is sad. The real cost is only 25%. Unfortuantely, FF resell can not even make the real cost, probably because people don't have good trust on that branch. Majority of the revenue is coming from selling, so they need to expand more.

    They report total 18,000+ units in TS, and 750,000+ owners. Which means if each owner owns one week, it is 41+ week. And FF suppose hold 20% inventories in the trust, assume it is true for WM, so each owner will own less than a week on avg, which is not matched what I read, I believe avg. each owner actaully owns more than 1.5 weeks. They probably oversell if the number in that report is right.

    Using their hotel number, it is $61+ expected cash flow per room per night. Which means if you have more than $420 per week (60* 7) for 1 BR in MF, that will be too much. But most of their hotel are in low end.

    Jya-Ning
    Jya-Ning

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    A great document !!

    This document is a great read!

    Some things stand out:

    (1) The rental market is _much_ bigger than the exchange market, so I think we know for sure they are going to stay with it (using RCI brand or not)

    (2) Vacation ownership has a very low penetration (below 5% in US) and also its driver is "Baby boomers’ propensity to buy vacation ownership products". I'm not sure what to make of that!

    Does this mean TS was just a single generation thing that will go away when the boomers are no longer with us?

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    • #3
      no, it was around before the boomers had spare cash. it's not a boomer thing, altho boomers are a great target as they begin to retire and spend their cash.

      Of course rentals are bigger than the exchange market - you don't have to own to rent but you have to own to exchange.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BoardGirl
        no, it was around before the boomers had spare cash. it's not a boomer thing, altho boomers are a great target as they begin to retire and spend their cash.
        I hope you are right, and that post-boomer generations do support timeshare in large numbers. None of us on TS4MS wants Timeshare to follow the example of Oldsmobile.

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        • #5
          Look at the Lisa's interview that John posted here:

          http://www.timeshareforums.com/showthread.php?t=12953

          Timesharing will be for the little guy and Steve Case's idea will do well with the rich. It makes good sense if you have a family. Owning a vacation home can be profitable if the market is with you but you have expenses and upkeep and not everyone wants that.

          Renting is worry free but renting choice properties or hotel suites are very expensive but you are guaranteed to get what you pay for and this is not always the case with a timeshare as you don't know where they put you and if you get the week you want.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by love2fly
            (2) Vacation ownership has a very low penetration (below 5% in US) and also its driver is "Baby boomers’ propensity to buy vacation ownership products". I'm not sure what to make of that!

            Does this mean TS was just a single generation thing that will go away when the boomers are no longer with us?
            I will assume that since this presentation is for investor, so it is planning to promote its stock price, so it trying to sell the greater outlook just like they sell TS.

            For example, 5% penetration, if you think about it, the population that TS are selling are really not 100% population. I believe FF is looking at top 25%
            income family, so it is already 20% of that population. Although I probably will try to sell that in avg, it owns less than 2 weeks in TS, and a great % of FF business is from the existing owner, so if they commit 3 weeks, it is 50% increase.

            Saying baby boom is coming also make it sound attractive for short term investor.

            Jya-Ning
            Jya-Ning

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            • #7
              I agree that is has been clear that RCI is more interested in rentals than exchanges. That is why exchangers should find themselves another venue for exchanging - one that actually beleives in and supports the exchange model. That's just not RCI anymore.

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              • #8
                I think that all of the points made by the posters about RCI and its rental business are valid. I also think that RCI as the big dog will be minimally impacted by moving to other exchange companies.
                Mike H
                Wyndham Fairshare Plus Owners, Be cool and join the Wyndham/FairfieldHOA forum!

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