Timeshare Transfering Information & Warning

[The Plain Speaker Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The Plain Speaker]

There are hundreds of corporations that are soliciting timeshare owners to dispose of their weeks.
Dumping Corporations are prevalent and cause harm to the resort.
The resale corporations requiring listing fees or appraisal fees do not sell the majority of timeshares submitted.

If a corporation asks for a power of attorney or quit claim deed then they should be avoided as these documents are not required to transfer title.
This is the way to try and sell the week but never transferring title.

If you are paying a company an upfront fee to accept your timeshare then you have a choice of what escrow company you use.
The two oldest and well respected title and escrow companies for timeshare transfers are Chicago Title in Escondido, CA. and First American Title in Las Vegas, NV. The average time to close escrow is eight to ten weeks.

This will help avoid dumping corporations and fraudulent tax donation organizations.

Your money should be deposited in a neutral holding account until the deed is no longer in your name and the resort has been notified of the new ownership.
No money is sent to the receiving corporation until escrow has closed.

[rikkis_playpen Diamond Club Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close rikkis_playpen]

This information is mostly accurate, but doesn't take into consideration Harborside at Atlantis closings which may require a power of attorney document as part of the normal closing process....

[The Plain Speaker Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The Plain Speaker]

Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so, too.

My previous comments that were censored contained no solicitations but only information that should have been considered valuable Consumer Protection information.
Then you say the information is mostly accurate.
If you are exercising censorship with no reason listed why didn't you eliminate everything that wasn't totally accurate instead of an underhanded comment on the credibility of the offering?

Of course, Chicago Title and First American Title know the states and countries which require attorneys to prepare documents, power of attorney and other legal requirements.

Is there a bias or attitude towards comments from people who work in the timeshare industry?
If so, the consumer is being deprived of different opinions and information that may be of importance.
I understand that this forum is not a democracy but to arbitrarily remove information without cause or comment is a corrupt power that discourages participation.

“We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.” ~John F. Kennedy

[BocaBum99 Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close BocaBum99]

Is there a bias or attitude towards comments from people who work in the timeshare industry?

No, there isn't. What's your objective here?

If anything, I would say that there is a distinct bias against people who scam people. I don't know what you posted. If you or what you do is legit, your posts will be welcome here. We are bombarded with spammers and shills for companies that scam timeshare owners. So, bear that in mind if your posts are being edited.

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

I don't see any record of an edit to any of your posts. Perhaps one post was disallowed due to links or perhaps you didn't hit the submit reply button. Be assured that if we don't like what we see or suspect a shill or spam post we will censor it. There is a basic distrust of those in the "industry" because most of them are greedy, lying con artists and the decent people are very few in number.

How's that for plain talk ?

[bigfrank Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close bigfrank]

I don't see any record of an edit to any of your posts. Perhaps one post was disallowed due to links or perhaps you didn't hit the submit reply button. Be assured that if we don't like what we see or suspect a shill or spam post we will censor it. There is a basic distrust of those in the "industry" because most of them are greedy, lying con artists and the decent people are very few in number.

How's that for plain talk ?

Look at his first post on this page, Not sure the reason why it was edited maybe there was a link

[The Plain Speaker Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The Plain Speaker]

My objective is to offer information to the timeshare community.
Review any of my postings to decide if that information is wanted.
It appears the editing of my comments was information that was disliked by the censor and did not contain links, names or solicitations.
As a founding member of a consumer protection agency offering affordable binding arbitration to consumers and businesses, a business owner and consultant with over twenty eight years in the resort industry I can bring information to the timeshare community that is current and informative.
My login name accurately portrays my intentions.

[bigfrank Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close bigfrank]

My objective is to offer information to the timeshare community.
Review any of my postings to decide if that information is wanted.
It appears the editing of my comments was information that was disliked by the censor and did not contain links, names or solicitations.
As a founding member of a consumer protection agency offering affordable binding arbitration to consumers and businesses, a business owner and consultant with over twenty eight years in the resort industry I can bring information to the timeshare community that is current and informative.
My login name accurately portrays my intentions.

OK lets see what was posted, Post it again or send it to me,

[The Plain Speaker Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The Plain Speaker]

Dear bigfrank,

I sent you a private email but here is the gist of what was deleted.

1. If you are being asked to spend more than $2500 to dispose of your timeshare keep looking. The scamming compaies use the same methods as timeshare sales dropping the price until the transfer amount is agreed upon.
The exact same weeks can be thousands of dollars apart.

2. There are a couple companies that do accept timeshares for a fee and transfer titles to new owners using legitimate business practices.

3. Homeowners Associations and resorts need to protect themselves by filing lawsuits against dumping companies.
This is blantant fraud when these dumping corporations pay no fees to the HOA's.
Piercing the corporate shell and filing civil and criminal lawsuits will discourage this behavior.
This action should be shared with all resorts and HOA's immediately.

4. Timeshare owners may end up with their weeks again as Attorney Generals and Judges become aware of this fraudulent behavior and unwind these dumping corporations.

This information is valuable to existing timeshare owners whether the subject matter is objectionable to some individuals.
To remove the consumer/reader from deciding the value is a misuse of editing and censorship at it's worst.

[tonyg Goomba & Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close tonyg]

The supermod that edited that post is an industry professional who is very aware of what is good and what is not. I have no need to see what was edited as I trust it was proper.

[The Plain Speaker Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close The Plain Speaker]

C'mon,
Address the subject.
Censorship vs. The Public's right to know.
Just because someone has authority or tenure to edit doesn't make it right.
Is this information inaccurate?
Does it break the rules?
Is ignorance bliss?
Or is it a personal bias?

[bigfrank Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close bigfrank]

I have been a way and will be busy untill Wenesday. I will look at yolur PM asap

[Glitter Brunello Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Glitter Brunello]

It is obvious why your post was deleted. You wouldn't be headed toward suggesting that anyone give their timeshare to any company for a fee, or pay an upfront fee to sell their timeshare, would you?

It seems as if you may be interested in more than just providing information. We are very wary. This site is run by timeshare owners for timeshare owners, not as a free database for marketing highly suspect services.

[mshatty Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close mshatty]

C'mon,
Address the subject.
Censorship vs. The Public's right to know.
Just because someone has authority or tenure to edit doesn't make it right.
Is this information inaccurate?
Does it break the rules?
Is ignorance bliss?
Or is it a personal bias?

Your advise is so general in nature that the experienced TSer's at this website know as much or more than you. Your attempt to "educate" us when you didn't even ask if we needed to be educated, is proselytizing to me. Because I may not want to hear what you have to say or share doesn't mean I am biased. I just don't want to listen.

[rikkis_playpen Diamond Club Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close rikkis_playpen]

How have I missed all this drama? I guess I've been a little distracted with the new venture- plus these don't show up on my home page when I log in for some reason..

The original edit was to remove a sentence which encouraged consumers to contact the OP with questions about the "legitimacy" of other companies..

I'm simply not comfortable with someone who appears to be as pompous as the Plain Squeeker hoping to be taken as an industry authority while hiding behind a screen name, and soliciting (albeit surreptitiously) business when I don't know the company you represent.

All this propaganda about censorship and unfair tactics is intended to obscure the real intent of the OP in this thread.

It's a real shame, 'cuz the majority of the initial post was very good!