Depositing BG deeded week into RCI - new program

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

I finally got through to a person at Bluegreen. They confirmed that RCI won't accept booked weeks from Bluegreen. He also confirmed that I am free to rent the unit as in the past.

I suppose that will be my best option, unless I decide to try a different Exchange company.

He gave me the impression that the reason we can't spacebank weeks from saved points, is that RCI won't take them, not that Bluegreen won't allow it.

Nevertheless It is a bit inconvenient as I wreally don't like messing around with renting points.

Yes, we knew this - it is on the Bluegreen Website.

Did you happen to ask about your deeded week?

I am going to go to the "ask SFX" forum and see which BGVC resorts they will take - there is a similar thread regarding Wyndham.

[jecox Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jecox]

Yes, we knew this - it is on the Bluegreen Website.

Did you happen to ask about your deeded week?

I am going to go to the "ask SFX" forum and see which BGVC resorts they will take - there is a similar thread regarding Wyndham.

Thanks, I guess my searching skills are lacking. I really only mess with my timeshares a few times a year. Once my vacation plans are set, I lose touch until the next year. I will check out the SFX boards, I've considered trying them anyway.

No, I didn't ask about deeded week. I actually usually use my Bluegreen points each year. But we traded another timeshare for Hawaii this year, and will likely be my only vacation I take.

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I finally got through to a person at Bluegreen. They confirmed that RCI won't accept booked weeks from Bluegreen. He also confirmed that I am free to rent the unit as in the past.

I suppose that will be my best option, unless I decide to try a different Exchange company.

He gave me the impression that the reason we can't spacebank weeks from saved points, is that RCI won't take them, not that Bluegreen won't allow it.

Nevertheless It is a bit inconvenient as I wreally don't like messing around with renting points.

Thanks, I guess my searching skills are lacking. I really only mess with my timeshares a few times a year. Once my vacation plans are set, I lose touch until the next year. I will check out the SFX boards, I've considered trying them anyway.

No, I didn't ask about deeded week. I actually usually use my Bluegreen points each year. But we traded another timeshare for Hawaii this year, and will likely be my only vacation I take.

You obviously need more points!

edit - as a new owner I am not familiar with 'saved points' - but with the new RCI interface which u access thru the BGVC website - you can exchange up to 24 months in the future - u might want to try that first with your 10K points.

[cjreed Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close cjreed]

I finally got through to a person at Bluegreen. They confirmed that RCI won't accept booked weeks from Bluegreen. He also confirmed that I am free to rent the unit as in the past.

He gave me the impression that the reason we can't spacebank weeks from saved points, is that RCI won't take them, not that Bluegreen won't allow it.

Nevertheless It is a bit inconvenient as I wreally don't like messing around with renting points.

If RCI will not accept weeks from Bluegreen members direct, it appears that it will make it more difficult for Bluegreen members to use their expiring points. In the past Bluegreen members booked a week deposited it with RCI and then had multiple years to book a trip. Am I correct in understanding that now, Bluegreen members must decide where and when they want to trade with RCI and then turn in number of points that RCI decides the unit they are wanting is worth.

How many times have Bluegreen members had no idea when or where they wanted to travel and were going to lose points. They had the option of then booking a unit and depositing the week with RCI and putting off the decision until the future.

If this is the case it is a disservice to both Bluegreen members and RCI members. RCI members will no longer have as many units to choose from as Bluegreen members deposit less and less units.

Please let me know if I am not understanding this correctly.

[cjreed Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close cjreed]

I can answer a few of these.....
1. Yes, you can see all the inventory but you can not book it - you can however purchase addition ponts to complete a reservation - I do not know the cost off hand

2. If you have authorized points you can access bonus time at ALL resorts.
With unauthorized points, bonus time is at your deeded resort only. In your case, it would be worthwhile to buy resale at Wilderness Club.

HTH

This information has been most helpful.

I have several Bluegreen members that I rent from and I would rent more, but I hesitate to keep asking them to check to see if time or unit size that I desire is available. Therefore, I had a small Bluegreen account, I could see the inventory and then contact the member with excess points for rent and ask them to make my reservation without putting extra burden on the member. I realize I would lose economies of scale and have to pay more per point for fewer points.

Additionally, it would be great if I could have access to bonus time at Wilderness Club. The bonus rates are approximately what I am averaging paying for my current usage.

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

If RCI will not accept weeks from Bluegreen members direct, it appears that it will make it more difficult for Bluegreen members to use their expiring points.

YES, IT WILL BE DIFFERENT - INSTEAD OF DEPOSITING AND THEN HAVING TWO YEARS TO DECIDE WHERE U WANT TO GO - YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION NOW (OR AT LEAST UP UNTIL THE POINTS EXPIRE) BUT CAN STILL TRAVEL 2 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE


In the past Bluegreen members booked a week deposited it with RCI and then had multiple years to book a trip.

TRUE

Am I correct in understanding that now, Bluegreen members must decide where and when they want to trade with RCI and then turn in number of points that RCI decides the unit they are wanting is worth.

SORTA YES - THERE IS A FIXED GRID SO YOU CAN DECIDE IF IT IS WORTH IT FOR YOU. SOME TRADES WILL COST YOU LESS POINTS AND SOME WILL SEEM MORE EXPENSIVE....BUT IF U HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO TO DISNEY DVC BECAUSE U DID NOT HAVE THE TRADE POWER, NOW U DO.

How many times have Bluegreen members had no idea when or where they wanted to travel and were going to lose points. They had the option of then booking a unit and depositing the week with RCI and putting off the decision until the future.

YES, THIS IS NO LONGER POSSIBLE WITH RCI UNLESS - YOU DEPOSIT YOUR DEEDED WEEK - WHICH WILL BE HANDLES JUST LIKE THE OLD WEEK PROGRAM.

MY PREFERRED PROGRAM IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE TO USE SFX WHO GIVES BONUS WEEKS WITH DEPOISTS - THERE IS NO FEE TO JOIN SFX AS A GOLD MEMBER - U ONLY PAY WHEN U EXCHANGE.

If this is the case it is a disservice to both Bluegreen members and RCI members.

THEY JUST DID A MUCH WORSE CHANGE TO THE WYNDHAM PROGRAM! AT LEAST WE HAVE SOME REALISTIC OPTIONS.

RCI members will no longer have as many units to choose from as Bluegreen members deposit less and less units.

THAT IS TO BE SEEN- AS I SAID, SOME EXCHANGES ARE MUCH BETTER IN THE NEW CROSS-OVER - LOG ON AND LOOK.

Please let me know if I am not understanding this correctly.

[cjreed Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close cjreed]

I can answer a few of these.....
\2. If you have authorized points you can access bonus time at ALL resorts.
With unauthorized points, bonus time is at your deeded resort only. In your case, it would be worthwhile to buy resale at Wilderness Club.

HTH

Ok - One more question --

If I purchase Wilderness Club with as few points as possible unauthorized. Would I be better off purchasing biannual instead of annual points.

The reasons for purchasing are to gain access to bonus time at Wilderness Club and to see what is available to rent excess points from current members without having to ask them to contiunually check for availaiblity for me.

I have hesitated to ask questions in the past because I know all of these questions have been answered before and posters get tired of repeating the same answers over and over. So, thank you for your time.

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

Ok - One more question --

If I purchase Wilderness Club with as few points as possible unauthorized. Would I be better off purchasing biannual instead of annual points.

The reasons for purchasing are to gain access to bonus time at Wilderness Club and to see what is available to rent excess points from current members without having to ask them to contiunually check for availaiblity for me.

I have hesitated to ask questions in the past because I know all of these questions have been answered before and posters get tired of repeating the same answers over and over. So, thank you for your time.

I am a newbie - but I know there are certain fees that u pay every year whether u own EY or EOY.

I also know that with BG, usually having MORE points makes the ownership more affordable.

Only you know what is right for you.

Look at what u rent, how far out and what your price per point is - if you are paying $7.50-$10, it could be worthwhile for you to buy. If you are paying $5.50-7.00 - maybe not.

Send Bocabum Jim a pm thru this board and get his advice - he will direct u where u need to go.

edit - the bonus rate just went up $10 per night as of 1/4

[cjreed Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close cjreed]

I am a newbie - but I know there are certain fees that u pay every year whether u own EY or EOY.

I also know that with BG, usually having MORE points makes the ownership more affordable.

Only you know what is right for you.

Look at what u rent, how far out and what your price per point is - if you are paying $7.50-$10, it could be worthwhile for you to buy. If you are paying $5.50-7.00 - maybe not.

Send Bocabum Jim a pm thru this board and get his advice - he will direct u where u need to go.

edit - the bonus rate just went up $10 per night as of 1/4

Thanks so much for your help. I saw a couple of days ago on the Yahoo Bluegreen board where Boccabum Jim was going to send out a list of Free points. I had hoped to have a good idea of what I wanted by the time I received the list. Of course, there probably will not be any free points at Wilderness Club. I know he must get a zillion questions every day. For years now I have been reading and trying to understand as much as possible about Bluegreen. Just hate to bother him with such a little purchase.

I have multiple RCI timeshares and have really used them to the fullest. Always purchased on the secondary market and have never been to a sales presentation. However, with the changes between Bluegreen and RCI; I am now fearful that I will no longer have the great access to trading my RCI units for Wilderness Club, as I did in the past. Therefore, it is probably time that I go ahead and purchase some Bluegreen points. You make a good point about the fixed costs per year. I should probably not consider EOY.

Thanks again. I have had the most informative day !

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

You should be able to deposit a fixed week at Harbour Lights into RCI directly as always. Just because it is a points resort doesn't mean that it can no longer operate as a weeks resort, too.

Jim, I just "re-asked" this question on the Yahoo Owners Group - forgot that you answered it already right here....please forgive the double request!!!

[motomem Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close motomem]

I finally got through to a person at Bluegreen. They confirmed that RCI won't accept booked weeks from Bluegreen. He also confirmed that I am free to rent the unit as in the past.

I suppose that will be my best option, unless I decide to try a different Exchange company.

He gave me the impression that the reason we can't spacebank weeks from saved points, is that RCI won't take them, not that Bluegreen won't allow it.

Nevertheless It is a bit inconvenient as I wreally don't like messing around with renting points.

I'm sure BG and RCI worked TOGETHER on the whole thing. There may have been a strong push by RCI since they are apparently wanting to migrate to a rent only model. I can see the entire pool of RCI inventory becoming a rental pool and what we see as available during the exchange process is what has not been rented.

As someone has already said this is a major step backwards for points usage. Especially for families with kids still in school.

Maybe I can exchange up to 2 years into the future, but that does me NO GOOD because I don't know when I can travel into the future. 11 months was already a stretch. Must be nice for those with a crystal ball. I work for a living and I travel for work. Work travel isn't known 2 years into the future.

I guess I'll have to study the other exchange companies.

I'm slowly climbing into the boat with the person that said simply renting might be the best option for vacations. Why not when you can rent from RCI, the same places, for less than the maintenance fees??