Next RCI Bluegreen question - including RCI/BG cancelation policy

[ptlohmysoul Member Find all posts View Profile Close ptlohmysoul]

How does the 2 digit TPU? relate to 9000 Bluegreen points? How about 18000 points? Is it equivalent to a 9 and 18 respectively?

[gandalf252002 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gandalf252002]

No, they are much more variable. Just like BG points have MF's attached to them so do TPU. A person who has pay's .05 per BG per point, is going to pay equivalently less for a 10,000 point BG unit than will somebody who pays .08 per point ($500 vs. $800 for the same unit).

The same goes for RCI's TPU system. They are even MORE variable though. Two people can pay the same MF's for their unit; however RCI will give different values for deposit. An example would be 2 people, who both have 1 bedroom units that they pay $500 annually for. One individual deposits and gets 10 TPU in return, the other gets 20 TPU in return. Given this scenario one person is paying $50 per TPU, and the other is paying $25 per TPU.

When they both go to get a unit later that is 15 TPU one individual cannot get an exchange, and the other can. If you equate this to dollars, at the same time, that 15 TPU unit would cost the first individual $750 and the other individual only $375. This is why there are so many frustrated people out there. Many people can no longer trade into properties they previously could. On the other hand, some people are able to get 3 exchanges out of one unit.

Essentially, each point in every system is tied to the MF's they pay. Generally speaking, the more points you have in a system the lower the per point value becomes. This is true of almost every system, Wyndham, Hilton, Starwood, etc. Many of us here (myself included) are in many different systems to compensate for this variability.

[Glitter Brunello Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Glitter Brunello]

But someone with BG points sees the cost of RCI trades in BG point equivalencies through the RCI/BG portal, yes? I presume the OP is trying to evaluate ExOps.

[SallyHoover Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SallyHoover]

Bluegreen points do not equate to a certain number of tpu's. Bluegreen uses the crossover grid based on size, region, and season.
https://bluegreenowner.com//MS/Resor...01_15_2010.pdf

So it doesn't matter if a unit has a tpu value of 3 or a tpu value of 58 if it is 2 br blue week in SC it will cost 8000 Bluegreen points. Several other points based memberships use or have switched over to a cross over grid based on the same criteria an do not allow owners to reserve and deposit a specific week.

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

With these corporate RCI portals the expensive TPU stuff is usually a bargain in RCI.
When it comes to the run of the mill stuff then not so much.

You will see that many of us own several ways to trade thru RCI.

I always evaluate which is the best way to trade in thru RCI by doing the math on how much in MF's this week is costing me with my different ownerships.
Usually for me it's with TPU's but every now and then there is inventory that is only in the Hilton or Wyndham portal and is not in the regular TPU portals.
Usually it's for something desirable.
I'm not sure if that's a glitch or on purpose.

Last year I was able to get a 1 bedroom at Manhattan Club thru the HGVC/RCI portal while the regular portal only showed studios available for the same New Years Eve dates.
Coincidence? I don't think so.

[ptlohmysoul Member Find all posts View Profile Close ptlohmysoul]

Bluegreen points do not equate to a certain number of tpu's. Bluegreen uses the crossover grid based on size, region, and season.
https://bluegreenowner.com//MS/Resor...01_15_2010.pdf

So it doesn't matter if a unit has a tpu value of 3 or a tpu value of 58 if it is 2 br blue week in SC it will cost 8000 Bluegreen points. Several other points based memberships use or have switched over to a cross over grid based on the same criteria an do not allow owners to reserve and deposit a specific week.

The chart doesn't include high red season? How do I know when the different seasons are? I'm looking specifically at Florida dvc, so can I just look up the Fountains (Bluegreen's orlando resort), see what season it is, then know the cost of dvc for that same time period?

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

The chart doesn't include high red season? How do I know when the different seasons are? I'm looking specifically at Florida dvc, so can I just look up the Fountains (Bluegreen's orlando resort), see what season it is, then know the cost of dvc for that same time period?

RCI doesn't use "High" red season like BG.
They use different terminology.
RCI only has red, white and blue weeks.
You should have a link to the grid somewhere in your account.
Here is one I found online:
https://bluegreenowner.com//MS/Resor...01_15_2010.pdf

Here is a recent thread about it.
http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...reen-Exchanges

I think for the nightly stays you need Travelers plus which is access to RCI points exchanges.
Please a BG owner correct me if I am wrong.

I am a BG owner but of weeks not points so I'm not sure of all the BG details. Sorry.

[gandalf252002 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gandalf252002]

Chris is right. In order to get access to nightly stays through RCI you would have to haveTravelers Plus, which is only available if you have "authorized" points. These are points that are either purchased directly through BG or from Pinnacle Vacations at a certain price point or higher.

I think for the nightly stays you need Travelers plus which is access to RCI points exchanges.
Please a BG owner correct me if I am wrong.

I am a BG owner but of weeks not points so I'm not sure of all the BG details. Sorry.

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

Chris is right. In order to get access to nightly stays through RCI you would have to haveTravelers Plus, which is only available if you have "authorized" points. These are points that are either purchased directly through BG or from Pinnacle Vacations at a certain price point or higher.

I have Travelers Plus so have access to RCI Nightly stays...

My question is - how do non-traveler plus Bluegreen Owners access RCI? - do you also go thru the bluegreenowner.com site to get to/click thru a portal?

[Hobbitess Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hobbitess]

My question is - how do non-traveler plus Bluegreen Owners access RCI? - do you also go thru the bluegreenowner.com site to get to/click thru a portal?

Yep. I would guess Bluegreen then tells RCI how many points you have and what to give you access to with them, but who knows...

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

Yep. I would guess Bluegreen then tells RCI how many points you have and what to give you access to with them, but who knows...

When you click thru the traveler plus portal and get to the BG/RCI site - it has your total amount of points available and how long they are good for - "regular" points are good to book out two years and "saved" points are good to book 6 months out.

You then search and it will tell you how many BG points are needed to book an exchange....after you confirm the exchange, RCI contacts BG and within 2 days, the points come out of your account.

I just wondered HOW you access if you do not have TP.

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

The chart doesn't include high red season? How do I know when the different seasons are? I'm looking specifically at Florida dvc, so can I just look up the Fountains (Bluegreen's orlando resort), see what season it is, then know the cost of dvc for that same time period?

No, the Bluegreen and the RCI season charts do not match.
RCI generic chart groups all areas of Florida in the same seasons unlike the BG point charts.

RCI doesn't use "High" red season like BG.
They use different terminology.
RCI only has red, white and blue weeks.
You should have a link to the grid somewhere in your account.
Here is one I found online:
https://bluegreenowner.com//MS/Resor...01_15_2010.pdf

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ptiohmysoul - Call the Bluegreen/RCI number 1-800-445-0088 and ask them what dates are considered red/white/blue in Florida - and posts the results here to let us know please.

edit - I just checked RCI - only one DVC currently available - a DVC 1BR unit with a 9/13 check-in is listed as 8,000 Bluegreen points so that would indicate it was 'white' on the crossover grid.

[Hobbitess Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hobbitess]

I just wondered HOW you access if you do not have TP.

Same same. And if you make a reservation with RCI but end up cancelling it, those points would be shown in the chart as "Bluegreen points with RCI." I would assume that, if they were current points when they went into the RCI system they wouldn't "roll over" on your anniversary date, though. Pretty annoying if they do.

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

My question is - how do non-traveler plus Bluegreen Owners access RCI? - do you also go thru the bluegreenowner.com site to get to/click thru a portal?

As a multi weeks owner of Bluegreen I do not have online access to RCI so must use my own RCI account and deposit weeks to that account.
This way my weeks get assigned the regular TPU's which could be a plus or a minus depending on what you are trying to accomplish.

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

Same same. And if you make a reservation with RCI but end up cancelling it, those points would be shown in the chart as "Bluegreen points with RCI." I would assume that, if they were current points when they went into the RCI system they wouldn't "roll over" on your anniversary date, though. Pretty annoying if they do.

Thanks for the info about the portal...
I would not assume this, but then we would not know without asking - I was just on the phone with RCI but hung up because of the long wait..