Bluegreen Las Vegas Resort

[greenwagonmom Member Find all posts View Profile Close greenwagonmom]

Has anyone been to Las Vegas and looked over the resort that is under construction? My husband has a conference in Vegas in early November. If I can manage to tag along, I thought about checking it out. Any thoughts?

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

I have yet to check this one out but, from what I've been told is directly in the flight path for the airport. If that's true it's not going to be the quietest timeshare in Vegas. We'll be out in October and I'm going to have to go see the location of this resort to see exactly where it is and if it truely is in the flight path for all the airliners coming and going from McCarren airport. Somehow I have a feeling it's more in line with the smaller executive airport and it's smaller jets that the larger passenger jets coming in.

[BoardGirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BoardGirl]

It's supposed to be very near the MGM Grand.

[kjhawk Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close kjhawk]

BG Las Vegas

I saw the construction site when I was in LV in June. The location is approximately two blocks east of the MGM Grand on Tropicana Blvd. This location is very near the airport (yes, full size jets), but I do not know if it is in the flight path of one of the runways.

[SoundQ SVT Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SoundQ SVT]

I was by the site a year ago... it is at the north end of the airport, just beyond the end of the runway, across Tropicana Blvd.

Here is a link to the area with an arial image from mapquest. The resort will be at the northwest corner of Tropicana Blvd and Paradise Rd. If you zoom out one level you can see Las Vegas Blvd and the MGM Grand at the far left side of the screen.

map of Las Vegas resort



Bob Johann
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[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

Fortunately it's at the end of the runways that aren't typically used. It's the east/west runways along hwy 562 that are used most frequently.

Still, Bluegreen should be ashamed that they picked a spot right at the end of the runway of one of the busiest airports in the nation to build their Vegas timeshare. When those passenger jets do land on that runway (or take off) it's not going to be a pretty place to be.

[charlie_m Member Find all posts View Profile Close charlie_m]

Yup kjhawk. They built that bad boy right across the street from a runway that DOES get used on occasion, AND is directly below the flight path. I can only imagine the racket when a 737 throttles up and landing gear is engaged yards above you.

Guess the dimwits got a gooood price on the land......LOL

I have pictures of a Southwest jet right above the property. Anyone interested, post your e-mail and I'll send it to ya.

[crwisconsin Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close crwisconsin]

Time will tell

I am quite sure that Bluegreen knew where the airport was. They had to weigh the airport location vs. how far away they would have to be from the action to have a resort that we can afford. Time will tell if they were dimwits or if they should be ashamed.

Charles

Yup kjhawk. They built that bad boy right across the street from a runway that DOES get used on occasion, AND is directly below the flight path. I can only imagine the racket when a 737 throttles up and landing gear is engaged yards above you.

Guess the dimwits got a gooood price on the land......LOL

Originally Posted by dougp26364
Still, Bluegreen should be ashamed that they picked a spot right at the end of the runway of one of the busiest airports in the nation to build their Vegas timeshare.

[Fern Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Fern]

I bet you do. But this is not a common landing path for the airport. Planes don't come from the North very often. Depending on the air currents, they either land from the East or from the West. And takeoff in a corresponding manner.

I love to watch them land from the West, they look like they barely miss Mandalay Bay as they pass near it.

Fern

Yup kjhawk. They built that bad boy right across the street from a runway that DOES get used on occasion, AND is directly below the flight path. I can only imagine the racket when a 737 throttles up and landing gear is engaged yards above you.

Guess the dimwits got a gooood price on the land......LOL

I have pictures of a Southwest jet right above the property. Anyone interested, post your e-mail and I'll send it to ya.

[stasik Member Find all posts View Profile Close stasik]

I suspect they will be able to sell units (as long as the aircraft aren't using runway 19 on that day). That's all the developer is concerned about.

The sales staff will be smart enough not to take guests to the back of the resort where they can see the planes and they certainly aren't going to be handing out Google Earth maps on tours. On the contrary, they will probably be bragging to folks about how easy access is to the resort from McCarran.

All the soundproofing they will have to do will secure the inside so you don't hear much, if anything. It could be a problem if you want to have a barbeque outside though.

This is the web page for the McCarran Noise Study they are doing to accomodate growth at the airport. Couple of interesting maps on the noise levels.

[charlie_m Member Find all posts View Profile Close charlie_m]

Sounds like we got some wishful thinkers here. I worked as an OPC for Bluegreen and the big worry was where they decided to build. You can bet it's a concern for the sales staff!

Oh and I forgot to mention that there's a ditch complete with garbage and sewage running along the east side of the property close to Paradise.....

[stasik Member Find all posts View Profile Close stasik]

Sounds like we got some wishful thinkers here. I worked as an OPC for Bluegreen and the big worry was where they decided to build. You can bet it's a concern for the sales staff!

Oh and I forgot to mention that there's a ditch complete with garbage and sewage running along the east side of the property close to Paradise.....

Its not wishful thinking as much as it is realistic thinking. The folks who are buying are doing it on an impulse without a ton of deep analysis.

If someone has the presence of mind to question a purchase because the airport is next door, I would think they would have the presence of mind to question why they are paying a grossly inflated price for something that they probably weren't planning to buy when they landed at McCarran.

By the end of the tour, the marks won't even know the airport is there. All they will know is that they are a couple of blocks from the bright lights of the LV Strip and that they have to buy. I am sure the sales folks would prefer to have something next door to the Wynn. But they are already used to selling a pig in a poke. This is just a different pig in a different poke.

If I was selling there, I would be more worried about the economy than the airport. Travel to Vegas has been flat the last quarter and fewer marks mean fewer sales.

[charlie_m Member Find all posts View Profile Close charlie_m]

Its not wishful thinking as much as it is realistic thinking. The folks who are buying are doing it on an impulse without a ton of deep analysis.

If someone has the presence of mind to question a purchase because the airport is next door, I would think they would have the presence of mind to question why they are paying a grossly inflated price for something that they probably weren't planning to buy when they landed at McCarran.

By the end of the tour, the marks won't even know the airport is there. All they will know is that they are a couple of blocks from the bright lights of the LV Strip and that they have to buy. I am sure the sales folks would prefer to have something next door to the Wynn. But they are already used to selling a pig in a poke. This is just a different pig in a different poke.

If I was selling there, I would be more worried about the economy than the airport. Travel to Vegas has been flat the last quarter and fewer marks mean fewer sales.


You got that right. People who buy timeshare are impulse buyers and as sales consultants, our job is to "put them in the ether". Then we break out the facts and figures, show the tours (buyers) that they're wasting money in a cramped hotel room and for around the same money they could be vacationing in a 2BR condo. Sounds great?

Owning time share is good for people who vacation a lot and want higher end accomodations, however one can do a lot better buying resales on EBay. As for the economy, the numbers may be a little down here in Vegas but having dined on the Strip last night, you could have fooled me.

I do have a question for you........are you a local, travel out here much, or just surf the Internet?

[stasik Member Find all posts View Profile Close stasik]

One of the facts and figures you break out never include the fact that resales are lower priced. I don't blame you, it would be a lot tougher sale if you did disclose that. But its for that reason I also don't think you are going to have trouble selling units close to the airport. BG doesn't set you folks up for failure. The programmed sales pitch will tell the folks all the good stuff and nothing about the downside.

And yes, I believe the economy is a bigger concern that the airport. Don't talk to me, talk to Harrah's and Boyd who showed profit declines this quarter. Talk to the folks at the Cosmopolitan who are still trying to get their construction financing worked out. Maybe you're just really lucky to not experience an average home price drop of about 20% in Nevada, the suspension of your home equity line or a foreclosure. Gaming is still a reasonably defensive play in a slow economy, but tourism is not.

As far as your final comment, I hope that's not the classy attitude that you display on a tour when selling.

[BocaBum99 Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close BocaBum99]

He's not a timeshare salesman. He is an OPC. An OPC is a marketing guy that gets a referral fee for getting people to attend timeshare presentations.

OPC means Off Premises Contact. They hang out at tourist destinations and offer free gifts and/or discount tickets in exchange for going to the pitch.