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  • Bluegreen to eliminate 5 month rule for partial week stays

    Starting sometime this week, owners may now book partial week stays up to 11 months in advance of check in.
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    I never expected this. Do you know why they are making this change? Will preferred members get to be put on the wait list for partial weeks at 12 or 13 months? Thanks for the early warning Jim.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kjhawk
      I never expected this. Do you know why they are making this change? Will preferred members get to be put on the wait list for partial weeks at 12 or 13 months? Thanks for the early warning Jim.
      I don't know the details. They will be posted on the website. My guess is that partial week stays will be treated like full week stays.

      I believe that Bluegreen feels this will free up more inventory for owners to book. Evidently, lots of preferred owners book full weeks and then cancel part of it when the 5 month window opens. If this behavior stops, it could be a good thing.

      I also know that in a given unit, when someone books a Sun-Sun and the next person books say Sat-Sat, that leaves a stranded Sunday to Saturday reservation that nobody can book. So now, those units can be booked. That is a good thing.

      The only potential downside I see is if someone decides to book only weekends at the 11 month mark and the only thing left is partial week stays at say the 10 month mark. That would be a problem.

      I'm not worried though. Bluegreen manages inventory pretty rigorously. If we got a bad behavior, they would change the rules again to get better utlization and occupancy.
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      • #4
        I thought BG had prevented the full week to partial week changes by not allowing new bookings at a resort within 24 hours of a cancelled reservation. Did this rule go away or was it not being enforced effectively?

        Another advantage of this change is that BG owners booking partial weeks are now able to book prior to Shell owners being able to book any BG inventory.

        The bottom line is still the same - you need to plan 11 to 13 months in advance to make sure you get what you want.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kjhawk
          I thought BG had prevented the full week to partial week changes by not allowing new bookings at a resort within 24 hours of a cancelled reservation. Did this rule go away or was it not being enforced effectively?

          Another advantage of this change is that BG owners booking partial weeks are now able to book prior to Shell owners being able to book any BG inventory.

          The bottom line is still the same - you need to plan 11 to 13 months in advance to make sure you get what you want.
          The board voted on and got that rule approved. But, it was inoperable. It didn't work. Too many people were using creative methods to bypass it. Now, they don't need to do so.
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          • #6
            Regarding this rule, if two people are wait listed and one wants a partial week and another a full week, will the full week get preference or does it still come down to who was on the wait list first?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BWD6
              Regarding this rule, if two people are wait listed and one wants a partial week and another a full week, will the full week get preference or does it still come down to who was on the wait list first?
              My understanding is that it is first come first served. If you are on the waitlist first, you get the reservation whether it is full week or partial week.
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              • #8
                Thanks Boca. Has there been any talk about extending bonus time booking beyond 45 days?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BWD6 View Post
                  Thanks Boca. Has there been any talk about extending bonus time booking beyond 45 days?
                  Yes, you can book bonus time up to 48-days if you do it online.
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                  • #10
                    This policy change sounds like it would make it easier to take advantage of a smaller points package. I have been toying with the idea of buying into BG, but felt like I would have to buy more points than what I really needed. I don't foresee taking many full week vacations to the same place, but could see doing 3-4 nights. Before this policy, I felt I would have to buy enough point to get a whole week just to be able to reserve soon enough to get the time and place that I want. Now it seems like I can reserve the 3-4 nights I want and have a better chance to get the time and place that I want.

                    Am I correct that I could get away with a smaller points package now to meet my needs?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Flush
                      This policy change sounds like it would make it easier to take advantage of a smaller points package. I have been toying with the idea of buying into BG, but felt like I would have to buy more points than what I really needed. I don't foresee taking many full week vacations to the same place, but could see doing 3-4 nights. Before this policy, I felt I would have to buy enough point to get a whole week just to be able to reserve soon enough to get the time and place that I want. Now it seems like I can reserve the 3-4 nights I want and have a better chance to get the time and place that I want.

                      Am I correct that I could get away with a smaller points package now to meet my needs?
                      Only if you purchase the right package. If you purchase the wrong package, your maintenance fees plus annual dues will be more than it costs to rent from someone like me.

                      If you can use bonus time 3-4 times per year, it's worth purchasing a small package for that features, IMO.

                      Otherwise, buy a small package with low maintenance fees, but not a converted fixed week or you will subject yourself to special assessments.

                      If you are interested in acquiring a package just to do partial week stays, let me know and I'll help you find one that works better than renting. Or, just rent.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BocaBum99 View Post
                        Only if you purchase the right package. If you purchase the wrong package, your maintenance fees plus annual dues will be more than it costs to rent from someone like me.

                        If you can use bonus time 3-4 times per year, it's worth purchasing a small package for that features, IMO.

                        Otherwise, buy a small package with low maintenance fees, but not a converted fixed week or you will subject yourself to special assessments.

                        If you are interested in acquiring a package just to do partial week stays, let me know and I'll help you find one that works better than renting. Or, just rent.
                        Here is my thought process. Assume I want to stay in a 2BR Townhome/Chalet at Mountainloft during high red season. To stay for a full week would take 10,000 points. However, since I only want to stay Sun-Thur, it will really only take 3900 points (1400 for Sun and 625 each for Mon-Thur). It seems I can now get by with only a 4000 points deed and still have the same booking priority as those booking for an entire week. It seems I should be able to do this without bonus time, shouldn't I? Bonus time would be nice if I wanted to take an additional weekend trip, but it should not affect my one main trip.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Flush View Post
                          Here is my thought process. Assume I want to stay in a 2BR Townhome/Chalet at Mountainloft during high red season. To stay for a full week would take 10,000 points. However, since I only want to stay Sun-Thur, it will really only take 3900 points (1400 for Sun and 625 each for Mon-Thur). It seems I can now get by with only a 4000 points deed and still have the same booking priority as those booking for an entire week. It seems I should be able to do this without bonus time, shouldn't I? Bonus time would be nice if I wanted to take an additional weekend trip, but it should not affect my one main trip.
                          Yep, you can do this now based on the new rule. Just don't buy a package with maintenance fees that are too high. The person you can rent from can get you the exact same reservation for cheaper.

                          Here is an example, let's say you purchase 8000 every other year points. Furthermore, lets say you purchase the most popular package type. It will have the following maintenance fees and dues every year:

                          Maintenance fees and taxes: $424
                          annual dues: $122.48
                          Total: $546.48

                          You can rent 4000 points for about $400.
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                          • #14
                            If I knew I could rent what I want for $400, I'd probably do that.

                            What the best case scenario as far as maintenance fees for a every year 4-5000 point package?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by The Flush View Post
                              If I knew I could rent what I want for $400, I'd probably do that.

                              What the best case scenario as far as maintenance fees for a every year 4-5000 point package?
                              Best case for 4000 annual or 8000 every other year is:

                              $232 plus $122.48 = $354.48.
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