60 Day reservations not being reduced in points

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I had reason to question why I was not being offered a 50% discount on a departure within 59 days, the explanation I was given was that now that DRI offered more flexible holidays part weeks and various departure dates that differ from resort standard check in days that these holidays would only be discounted (if available) by 50% 30 days prior to departure. However, if a holiday was booked for 7 days within 59 days of arrival commencing on the resorts standard check in day then this holiday would be discounted by 50%, hope this helps.

This is TRUE but is not a direct answer to the question that is valid about an availability that fits ALL the parameters you stated but is still not discounted.

[Spence Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Spence]

This sound like a good question to ask directly to DRI for a written clarification?.

I think that the answer is perfectly clear. If you read the rules, DRI has had their experts write them to the advantage of the system, and if you were running the system, wouldn't you do the same. What happens when they discount reservations? There are just so many points in the system and they should match the available full price reservations. To keep the system 'balanced,' DRI should add availability from their own supply that is not is THE Club (yet), they really must do this for discounts due to upgrades for elite members. Anyway, discounting throws the system off even though they are doing it to try to stimulate use of properties that would burn anyway because they were originally OVERvalued for the season.

I can especially see NOT discounting an availability in the discount period that pops up because of a cancellation that was under Reservation protection. This could very well be abused by members as points are very valuable... a member could get Reservation Protection for a very expensive reservation cancel it under 60days and rebook at half price. NOT good for the system. DRI is trying to make the system completely viable.

[hercules24 Member Find all posts View Profile Close hercules24]

I am a little confused - as far as I am aware all accommodation is discounted by 50% if available for a week on normal check in days 59 days or less prior to departure - 30 days for none standard check in days, if you had accommodation already booked to get a 100% refund of points you would have to cancel 60 days before departure giving all members the opportunity to book next day at a discount of 50% - I do not feel that this is what the insurance of points protects (I may be wrong), I thought that it just refunded your points in full if you could not travel due to circumstances such as medical reasons. etc.

[Spence Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Spence]

I am a little confused - as far as I am aware all accommodation is discounted by 50% if available for a week on normal check in days 59 days or less prior to departure - 30 days for none standard check in days, if you had accommodation already booked to get a 100% refund of points you would have to cancel 60 days before departure giving all members the opportunity to book next day at a discount of 50% - I do not feel that this is what the insurance of points protects (I may be wrong), I thought that it just refunded your points in full if you could not travel due to circumstances such as medical reasons. etc.

All accommodations are not discounted, that is why this thread started.
No a little naive, Resrvation Protection allows the member, for a price, the ability to cancel a reservation and receive all points back up to a day prior to check-in.

[dale7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dale7]

Maybe this might answer some of the questions of what resorts are giving discounts.

Quick Getaways

50% off regular weekly point values – 7 night reservations, when reservations are made 59 days prior to check-out at selected resorts

Featured Resorts

The Ridge on Sedona Golf Resort – Sedona, AZ
Polo Towers Suites – Las Vegas, NV
The Suites at Fall Creek – Branson, MO
Villas de Santa Fe – Santa Fe, NM
Sedona Summit – Sedona, AZ
Desert Paradise Resort – Las Vegas, NV
THE Club® Discounts
Scottsdale, AZ

Scottsdale Links Resort

50% off – April 11, 2010 – July 1, 2010
25% off – July 5, 2010 – July 29, 2010
25% off – August 1, 2010 – November 18, 2010
Scottsdale Villa Mirage

50% off – April 4, 2010 – April 22, 2010 (Studios Only)
50% off – April 25, 2010 – May 27, 2010
25% off – May 31, 2010 – July 1, 2010
25% off – July 5, 2010 – September 2, 2010
25% off – September 6, 2010 – November 18, 2010
Sedona, AZ

Sedona Summit

50% off – April 4, 2010 – April 22, 2010 (Studios Only)
50% off – April 25, 2010 – May 27, 2010
25% off – May 31, 2010 – July 1, 2010
25% off – July 5, 2010 – September 2, 2010
25% off – September 6, 2010 – November 18, 2010
The Ridge on Sedona Golf Resort

50% off – March 12, 2010 – April 29, 2010 (Studios Only)
50% off – April 11, 2010 – April 29, 2010
25% off – May 2, 2010 – May 27, 2010
25% off – July 5, 2010 – September 2, 2010
Branson, MO

The Suites at Fall Creek

50% off – March 12, 2010 – May 13, 2010
Williamsburg, VA

Greensprings Vacation Resort

75% off – March 12, 2010 – March 25, 2010
25% off – April 4, 2010 – May 27, 2010
25% off – August 23, 2010 – September 30, 2010
50% off – October 1, 2010 – November 18, 2010
50% off – November 28, 2010 – December 23, 2010
The Historic Powhatan Resort

75% off – March 12, 2010 – May 27, 2010
50% off – August 23, 2010 – September 30, 2010
50% off – October 1, 2010 – November 18, 2010
50% off – November 28, 2010 – December 23, 2010
Orlando, FL

Cypress Pointe Resort

25% off – May 2, 2010 – June 17, 2010
25% off – July 18, 2010 – November 18, 2020
Cypress Pointe Grande Villas

25% off – April 11, 2010 – August 31, 2010
25% off – September 5, 2010 – November 18, 2010
Grand Beach Resort

25% off – April 24, 2010 – June 10, 2010
25% off – July 5, 2010 – November 18, 2010
Las Vegas, NV

Desert Paradise Resort

50% off – May 1, 2010 – July 1, 2010
50% off – July 5, 2010 – September 2, 2010
50% off – September 6, 2010 – November 18, 2010
50% off – November 28, 2010 – December 23, 2010
Polo Towers Suites

50% off – May 31, 2010 – August 18, 2010
Lake Tahoe, CA

Lake Tahoe Vacation Resort

50% off – March 12, 2010 – April 1, 2010
25% off – April 11, 2010 – May 27, 2010
50% off – April 11, 2010 – May 27, 2010 (Studios Only)
25% off – September 6, 2010 – November 18, 2010
Santa Fe, NM

Villas de Santa Fe – (1 Bedroom only)

50% off – April 11, 2010 – May 27, 2010
25% off – May 31, 2010 – July 1, 2010
25% off – September 6, 2010 – November 18, 2010
San Maarten, N.A.

Flamingo Beach Resort – (Studios only)

25% off – May 9, 2010 – October 21, 2010
Flamingo Beach Villas

25% off – August 22, 2010 – October 28, 2010
Royal Palm Beach Resort

25% off – May 23, 2010 – October 28, 2010

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

I think that the answer is perfectly clear. If you read the rules, DRI has had their experts write them to the advantage of the system, and if you were running the system, wouldn't you do the same. What happens when they discount reservations? There are just so many points in the system and they should match the available full price reservations. To keep the system 'balanced,' DRI should add availability from their own supply that is not is THE Club (yet), they really must do this for discounts due to upgrades for elite members. Anyway, discounting throws the system off even though they are doing it to try to stimulate use of properties that would burn anyway because they were originally OVERvalued for the season.

I can especially see NOT discounting an availability in the discount period that pops up because of a cancellation that was under Reservation protection. This could very well be abused by members as points are very valuable... a member could get Reservation Protection for a very expensive reservation cancel it under 60days and rebook at half price. NOT good for the system. DRI is trying to make the system completely viable.

I'm pretty sure these rules were Sunterra's rules before DRI ever came along. Sunterra seemed awfully lax in the enforcement of their own rules from what I have come to understand.

Straight from DRI management, DRI managed resorts will be discounted 50%. Affiliated resorts, which have limited availability, may not always be discounted. It's rare that the affilitated resorts have availability at less than 60 days. Because of that, it's not usually noticed that there are some resorts that are not discounted.

If you see a DRI resort online that does not reflect the discount, I'd suggested calling reservations. Failing that I would E-mail management to see why a DRI resort isn't discounted. I think you'll discover this is much ado about nothing.

[T. R. Oglodyte Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close T. R. Oglodyte]

I'm pretty sure these rules were Sunterra's rules before DRI ever came along. Sunterra seemed awfully lax in the enforcement of their own rules from what I have come to understand.

Straight from DRI management, DRI managed resorts will be discounted 50%. Affiliated resorts, which have limited availability, may not always be discounted. It's rare that the affilitated resorts have availability at less than 60 days. Because of that, it's not usually noticed that there are some resorts that are not discounted.

If you see a DRI resort online that does not reflect the discount, I'd suggested calling reservations. Failing that I would E-mail management to see why a DRI resort isn't discounted. I think you'll discover this is much ado about nothing.

I totally concur with Doug on this one. In my experience DRI has continuously trumpeted the 50% discount. While I don't routinely check availability at less than 60 days before check-in, when I have looked I have never failed to see the discount applied.

At the DRI boards I one time asked whether the 50% reduction also applied to Club Select, and was assured that points requirements for Club Select also received the 50% discount at less than 60 days before check-in. When I've done occasional checking in Club Select, I've seen the discounts applied at less than 60 days.

It looks as if we will be doing some travel in June during which we may be able to make use of the 60-day discount window. I'll be checking it out.

[hercules24 Member Find all posts View Profile Close hercules24]

When I spoke to DRI for clarity they said that my interpretation was correct that is that a 50% discount was offered on normal check days for 7 day or blocks of 7 days within 59 days of arrival but only 50% discount is offered on none standard check in days 30 days before arrival, however, their is one exception and that is affiliated resorts marked with limited availability - apparently the discounts offered at these resorts are discretionary and very limited and fall outside the above rules. Hope this helps resolve issues.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

When I spoke to DRI for clarity they said that my interpretation was correct that is that a 50% discount was offered on normal check days for 7 day or blocks of 7 days within 59 days of arrival but only 50% discount is offered on none standard check in days 30 days before arrival, however, their is one exception and that is affiliated resorts marked with limited availability - apparently the discounts offered at these resorts are discretionary and very limited and fall outside the above rules. Hope this helps resolve issues.

In all fairness, the rules clearly state that DRI does not have to offer th 50% discount on bookings of less than 50%. It has been promotoed heavily and, as far as I can tell and from what DRI has stated, the discount will be applied to DRI managed resorts.

Of course, as everyone here has learned, should another management company take over, the rules can be enforced as they are written or, rules can be changed according to any mechanism in place to make such changes.

I've said it many times before. NEVER buy a resort based on the idea of anything except using that resort week. All the little extra's, like exchange power, are subject to change. In the end, the onlything you own is your deed or, in the case of the trust, whatever rights are granted in that trust. Since we've seen Carlton Court leave the resorts portfilio, with a trust based ownership, I'd assume that even the resorts in the trust can be change when certan circumstances are met.