Dual owners membership features

[Spence Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Spence]

For anyone who is a member of Both Vacation Internationale and Club Sunterra, do you know what Dual Owners Membership Features are?

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Finally got an answer from VI

Finally got an answer from VI

Dear Owner,

If you want to use only Sunterra options, either to book Sunterra Space or Vacation Internationale Space, You need to call Club Sunterra directly at (877)258-2786.

If you like to use VI points + Sunterra options you may call VI directly at (800)444-6633. The rules are the following:
a)Specify you are VI Owner and Sunterra member. Give both numbers to the agent taking your call, your Owner number and your Sunterra member number.
b)Specify you like to use both accounts. Remember, you need to use two nights minimum from both accounts. This means you need to book, at least, four night: two using VI points and two using Sun options.
c)If the space you are booking belongs to Club Sunterra, you will be given two reservation numbers: one for VI portion and one for Club Sunterra portion. If the space you are booking belongs to VI, only one reservation number will be given to you.

Thank you!

Vacation Internationale
Owner Services
1-800-444-6633
1-425-454-8429
Ownserv@viresorts.com

[mace Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mace]

but where is the advantage am I missing something

[Spence Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Spence]

but where is the advantage am I missing something

You're missing something!

The significance of this is the difference in maintenance fees. An owner in both systems can use SunOptions for majority of a week or longer reservation. The MF of VI points is $6.59/pt which comes to 11¢/SunOption when you do the 60:1 conversion. The MF for Diamond Resorts U.S. Collection Members Association, Inc. is currently going to 8.03¢/SunOption and for those who own the right converted weeks the MF can be as low as 5¢/SunOption. So you're talking about access to VI's system for less than half the annual cost. Makes those 4BR penthouses in Mexico almost affordable.

[mace Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mace]

I got it, so for instance a 2 bd unit at torres mazatlan

cost

18.5 per day prime so ... in VI points

18.5*7 (days)*60(sunoptions/vi conversion) = sun option equivalent = 7560 points

7560*.11 = approximate price VI

7560* (.11*2+.064*5)/7 = equal price when using 2 VI and 5 Diamond

(.064 is my rate in the club)

Difference = approximately $250

Ofcourse the longer you stay or larger the unit more benefit I suppose.

And if you are using the trust fee rate of .0803 the benefit goes to $160 for 7560 points. The interesting feature I noted about the VI website is they actually tell you how many units at a resort that they control/manage. Doesn't really tell you the inventory but it's better than nothing

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The interesting feature I noted about the VI website is they actually tell you how many units at a resort that they control/manage. Doesn't really tell you the inventory but it's better than nothing

VI website shows members the exact number of units remaining each day.

[mace Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mace]

Oh I'm not a member I just saw the general section that everyone can see in the section amenities. I would really appreciate it if Diamond starting doing the same.

[Bill4728 Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Bill4728]

Over time, Sunterra is becoming more and more interesting to me. This ability to use VI is a very nice bonus for me. And the Sunterra locations in Europe also is a big draw for me.

Does anyone know how difficult it is for a Sunterra member to access the VI inventory?

Does anyone know how difficult it is for a US Sunterra member to access the european Sunterra inventory?

[Spence Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Spence]

Over time, Sunterra is becoming more and more interesting to me. This ability to use VI is a very nice bonus for me. And the Sunterra locations in Europe also is a big draw for me.

Does anyone know how difficult it is for a Sunterra member to access the VI inventory?

Does anyone know how difficult it is for a US Sunterra member to access the european Sunterra inventory?

What the exact formula for Diamond/THE Club access to VI inventory is not public knowledge. They are intertwined. For the years that Sunterra Pacific was in management control, they sold memberships in Club Sunterra that were based on ownership of the VI Trust. These members may continue to have the Club benefits and as such, some inventory between VI (No longer managed by Sunterra/SRM ---> Diamond) and THE Club must move back and forth to accommodate. All that being said, the access to VI inventory for THE Club members is minuscule.

This thread was really about a VI owner who is also a member of THE Club. This can happen two ways. A VI owner whose VI ownership was sold to them as Sunterra Pacific or an owner who has independant memberships in both.

European inventory comes under the same Home Resort Advantage rules as the rest of the Club. Owners over there can book 12months in advance, US owners have to wait until 10months in advance. This makes prime time very hard to obtain, but other times are very possible if you plan at 10months.

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All that being said, the access to VI inventory for THE Club members is minuscule.

Yeah, that what I thought.

Thanks Spence

You are the man!!