The New Marriott Points System

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

The rumor is no more EOY weeks. Sales supposedly will close on June 16th for retraining. Some prelimary training is going on now. There has been no formal announcement or even a hint of an enhancement for MVC owners.

I'm looking forward to any information MVC gives me. Three of our seven weeks are in points based internal exchange programs. I would LOVE for Marriott to introduce something that allows me to keep my deeded floating weeks but assigns a point value to those weeks for an internal exchange club. I'll be less thrilled if they try to introduce a trust based ownership and ask us to give up our deeded weeks for a program similar to DVC.

[d1950m Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close d1950m]

points

Is there any advantage to current Marriott owners for them to change to a point system? If there are, what are they?

[taffy19 Gold Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close taffy19]

Is the training for two weeks now? I heard that it was only for three days starting on the 17th which is a Thursday and no more deeds will be sold after that.

The rumors are driving me crazy and I feel that it is very unprofessional by the Marriott that they didn't set a stop to these rumors a long time ago. I read now that they are getting serious that no salesman leaks anything more. They even fired one recently for still mentioning something about the new points system.

[taffy19 Gold Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close taffy19]

Is there any advantage to current Marriott owners for them to change to a point system? If there are, what are they?

Nobody knows for sure. It's all speculation so far.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

Is there any advantage to current Marriott owners for them to change to a point system? If there are, what are they?

We own 7 tmeshares, 3 of which ar in points based systems. There are advantages and disadvantages but, overall I prefer our points based systems for the flexiblity and cost effectiveness they achieve.

1. In both points based systems there is an extra membership fee on top of the regular MF. Part of that fee includes the outside exchange membership fee.

2. In one of the points based systems (larger membership fee) there is no fee for internal exchanges. In the other, there is a small fee for external exchanges.

3. Because they are points based, there is no lock-out fee.

4. When you want to exchange, you use only the trade power you need (number of points). There is no trading down.

5. If you want to trade up, you can borrow points from next year. If you want to trade down, you can save points to next year.

6. You can book as few as 2 nights or as many nights as you wish if you have enough points.

7. Check in days are any day of the week, not just Friday, Saturday or Sunday.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

Is the training for two weeks now? I heard that it was only for three days starting on the 17th which is a Thursday and no more deeds will be sold after that.

The rumors are driving me crazy and I feel that it is very unprofessional by the Marriott that they didn't set a stop to these rumors a long time ago. I read now that they are getting serious that no salesman leaks anything more. They even fired one recently for still mentioning something about the new points system.

I've heard to many rumors to even guess how long they'll shut down. The longest I've heard is two weeks. Anything less than that is gravy as far as I'm concerned. I'm hoping to gain some insight during our trip to Mountain Valley lodge at the end of this month.

The rumors might start with a Marriott salesmans slip of the lip but they're fanned by the paranoia of a few online posters. Marriott itself has said nothing. Assumptions by salespersons is a hard thing to stop when they earn their living on comission and are searching for anything that might help them close a sale. If you have a compettitive disadvantage (Marriott weeks vs other top programs with flexible points), you'll say what you think will help, even if the reality is it doesn't help at all.

[Ireland's Call Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ireland's Call]

An announcement on new Marriott System on Weds

Marriott are holding a "Webinar Business Update" for certain Advisory Board Members on Weds evening next.Probably the first public/official announcment,
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[Ireland's Call Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ireland's Call]

Marriott are holding a "Webinar Business Update" for certain Advisory Board Members on Weds evening next.Probably the first public/official announcment,
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Webinar to reveal all is today...anyone taking part ?
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[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

Webinar to reveal all is today...anyone taking part ?
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So, what did you hear???

[taffy19 Gold Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close taffy19]

Webinar to reveal all is today...anyone taking part ?
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I signed up but I thought that the 16th was tomorrow so I missed it. Since we are retired, we no longer keep track of the days, date and time.

I called the Marriott today and was told that the new system will be very beneficial to us at the Maui Ocean Club and certainly for a fixed week/unit owner.

All Marriott owners can opt in and out of the point system every year but there is a conversion fee of $595 for a single week or $695 for multiple weeks plus a yearly fee of $169 that someone posted in that thread.

This system seems to be a better option than what Starwood has done to their owners with the mandatory and voluntary resorts as the Marriott supposedly learned from their mistakes. I am only summarizing from what I read today as the thread has now 2620 posts already.

The Maui Ocean Club sales office told me today that everyone will receive an email on Monday, June 21. It's about time to stop all the speculation and wild rumors that have been going around and posted for well over two years!

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

I signed up but I thought that the 16th was tomorrow so I missed it. Since we are retired, we no longer keep track of the days, date and time.

I called the Marriott today and was told that the new system will be very beneficial to us at the Maui Ocean Club and certainly for a fixed week/unit owner.

All Marriott owners can opt in and out of the point system every year but there is a conversion fee of $595 for a single week or $695 for multiple weeks plus a yearly fee of $169 that someone posted in that thread.

This system seems to be a better option than what Starwood has done to their owners with the mandatory and voluntary resorts as the Marriott supposedly learned from their mistakes. I am only summarizing from what I read today as the thread has now 2620 posts already.

The Maui Ocean Club sales office told me today that everyone will receive an email on Monday, June 21. It's about time to stop all the speculation and wild rumors that have been going around and posted for well over two years!

Thanks Emmy,
Any penalty for resale owners that u have heard of?

[taffy19 Gold Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close taffy19]

No rumors of any kind yet but I read that Marriott doesn't want to make the same mistakes that other developers have made to upset their large customer base. Let's hope so. At the end, it will benefit everyone.

[Ireland's Call Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ireland's Call]

So, what did you hear???

Missed it ! got my times wrong
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[urple2 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close urple2]

The webinar provided absolutely no information... Right out of the gate, the moderator said something to the effect that the number one question everyone has is how this will interact with Interval if marriott to marriott exchanging was to take place...and he had no further comment. Others posted questions and I didn't see them answered such as"why are there fewer accomodation certificates this year" and some other questions I never saw answered... It was all basic how to exchange your week with marriott and interval.

[taffy19 Gold Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close taffy19]

Missed it ! got my times wrong
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You too as so yesterday. I signed up for a new one next week.

Fletch hinted about the conversion price for the re-sale owners today which seems to be $1,499. This is what other people understood from the hint. I don't think that is too bad because re-sale owners saved so much money upfront already. If that is the only difference between direct and re-sale owners, then most people will not complain, imho.

Now, people are speculating about who is first in line to make reservations. I have a feeling that the compettion will be even more fierce than it was from here on forward. There is even an attorney who is interpreting the legal language in the documents so that helps a little but I have a hard time understanding it all.