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  • Who can benefit from Marriott's new Destination Club

    The way I see it at this point, there is a rather narrow group of current Marroitt owners who can benefit from the new DC.

    1. Those who own multiple units strictly to exchange can benefit under the one fee price plan rather than ala carte pricing. Especially those who own lock-off units. A person who owns two lock-off units and makes 4 trades per year using those units can save $387/year under the new plan. That's $150 in lock-off fee's and $436 in exchange fee's less the $199 annual membership fee.

    2. Empty nesters who don't need that large unit they bought for the whole family and would prefer smaller units and more frequent vacations.

    3. Young couple who purchased a one bedroom when they didn't have children and now find themsleves needing two or three bedroom units. They can buy enough points to upgrade rather than buying another entire week.

    4. Owners who have had to change jobs and have lost a lot of their vacation time. They may need to take more weekend trips rather than taking entire week long vacations.

    5. Owners who simply want more flexability in their ownership.

    6. Owners who want to take vacations other than timeshare vacations but, own to many timeshares to take both. For instance, we like to cruise but, we own so many timeshares I have to figure out what to do with one or two of them when we cruise. I have exchanged our Hilton points for cruises in years when something would end up getting wasted. Better to get some value than no value.

    I know it's a list of 6 but, most of the owners I've talked to over the years own only one timeshare and haven't figured out how to really get maximum value out of their ownership. Many don't even have a clue how to exchange nor do they want to exchange. Spending $595 plus $169/year will seem like a waste of money to them. Those that rarely exchange won't see a lot of benefit. The obvious skim will also keep owners who might have liked a points based system from joining if they can't even get the week they bought at their home resort during the season they own.

    Marriott hamstrung itself on this new program if they wanted to get current owners into the pool IMHO but, it is what it is. We barely fall into the catagory of seeing a benefit due to the fact we own two lock-out units but, we don't exchange all of our weeks. For us it's a risk joining in that it will take three years for us to break even. Will Marriott hold the annual membership fee at $199 or, will they increase that fee or, add other fee's along the way, making the program less attractive. Even owning two weeks with Marriott, this program is not a no-brainer for us to join.
    Our timeshare and other photo's at http://dougp26364.smugmug.com/

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    On number 1 in your post, I agree that I would be better off from a reduction in fees, but here is what I do every year:

    Lock off both my MSE and MGR and trade every unit in II. I have always received 2BR or larger units for the 1BRs and 1BR or 2BR (once got a 3BR in flexchange) for the studios.

    I can't get those same trades in the new points based system, at least not until I can interact directly with II.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Big Matt
      On number 1 in your post, I agree that I would be better off from a reduction in fees, but here is what I do every year:

      Lock off both my MSE and MGR and trade every unit in II. I have always received 2BR or larger units for the 1BRs and 1BR or 2BR (once got a 3BR in flexchange) for the studios.

      I can't get those same trades in the new points based system, at least not until I can interact directly with II.
      If/when Marriott gets the system straightened out, yes you can. The mistake everyone seems to make is assuming you have to convert to points. You don't. You can join the program, pay the annual memership fee and then exchange using the weeks based system, not points.

      What's been holding me back is that Marriott didn't anticipate owners wanting online access for the reason you must have it, to exchange up via the weeks based exchange system. They thought everyone hated I.I. and would want to call a VOA and have the VOA arrange the exchanges. Mostly they thought (incorrectly IMHO) that everyone who joined would want to, or would assume you have to, convert to points.

      I have seen two posts now, one on TUG and one on the Yahoo MPB owners group indicating that Marriott has given owners online access to I.I. via the coporate account and, those owners have indicated they have full access to make weeks based exchanges just like they always have, including trading up. I'm still going to give it until Nov. when we're at our home resort before making any decisions. There have been to many snafu's in this system for me to feel confident in it at this point. Marriott does seem to be making rapid progress in fixing the glitches in the system and that makes me a little more confident.

      So long as I can continue to do what we've always done, which is almost the same as you except that we use on home resort week master suite, I'll consider joining. It would be considerably less expensive for me to pay $199/year instead of two LO fee's and three exchange fee's. I'd break even by the third year, assuming there isn't a hefty increase in membership fee's along the way.
      Our timeshare and other photo's at http://dougp26364.smugmug.com/

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      • #4
        Dougp,
        my point was about not having access to II. I also get some good II trades by calling II. If I put Marriott in between, I'm sunk.

        I may join also because my family status is changing with kids going to college soon.

        I can really take advantage of off season nights, 1BR instead of 2 or 3 and S-Thurs. To me, that's how you game the system.

        Plus, I'm platinum elite with a zillion rewards points, so staying in a hotel resort for Friday and Saturday could be nice, and then I could have 12 days without using a weekend and blowing all the destination points.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Big Matt
          Dougp,
          my point was about not having access to II. I also get some good II trades by calling II. If I put Marriott in between, I'm sunk.

          I may join also because my family status is changing with kids going to college soon.

          I can really take advantage of off season nights, 1BR instead of 2 or 3 and S-Thurs. To me, that's how you game the system.

          Plus, I'm platinum elite with a zillion rewards points, so staying in a hotel resort for Friday and Saturday could be nice, and then I could have 12 days without using a weekend and blowing all the destination points.
          Even if you join the DC, you'll still have access to Interval. Members who have joined have stated the online access issue has been corrected and you can search using the corporate account just like you could with your personal account.

          Essentially, you can do the same thing in the DC as with your personal accounmt.......or so they say. I'm waiting it out until the end of the year before making any decisions. Marriott didn't do such a great job with their roll out.

          I haven't joined because I've always been able to trade up. With the online access to Interval issue solved, I can do my own requests, deposits et.... without putting Marriott between me and Interval.
          Our timeshare and other photo's at http://dougp26364.smugmug.com/

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