New: Use Vacation Club Points in Europe........

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Using Vacation Club Points in Europe

The Marriott Vacation Club Destinations™ Exchange Program is going continental! Now, you will be able to use Vacation Club Points to book a stay at Marriott Vacation Club resorts in Europe*. This means you’ll no longer be locked into weeklong stays and can schedule your next vacation in France or Spain by simply calling your Vacation Ownership Advisor team. Here’s a look at the fabulous resorts you can choose from:

Marriott’s Village d’Ile-de-France
This serene resort is tucked away amid the romantic French countryside, yet just a short train ride from the cosmopolitan delights of Paris. Enjoy a comfortable stay in a 1-, 2- or 3-bedroom townhouse, plus convenient access to the 27-hole golf course and exciting attractions at Disneyland Paris.

Marriott’s Club Son Antem
Nestled on a scenic island off the eastern coast of Spain, this Mallorca resort features 2- and 3-bedroom townhomes and breathtaking Mediterranean views. It’s also adjacent to the luxurious Mallorca Marriott® Son Antem Golf Resort & Spa, featuring two golf courses and a European-style spa.

Marriott’s Playa Andaluza
Soak up the sun in style at this stunning beachfront resort on Spain’s beautiful Costa del Sol. Choose from 2- and 3-bedroom apartments with views of the Mediterranean and lush garden landscaping, and enjoy easy access to the region’s celebrated white-sand beaches, golf courses and diverse arts and culture.

Marriott’s Marbella Beach Club
The enchanting landscapes of Southern Spain will unfurl before you when you stay at this alluring resort in the heart of Costa del Sol. From your spacious 1-, 2- or 3-bedroom apartment, you can enjoy the region’s enticing attractions, from sun-soaked beaches to world-class golf and vibrant nightlife.

*Subject to the deposit of use periods from Marriott Vacation Club resorts in Europe.

Book your next vacation in Europe by calling your Vacation Ownership Advisor team at 888-682-4862.

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[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

So Americans can book nightly stays with points but Europeans can't join the points system?
That seems unfair since they are getting the inventory from those owners.

[ArtsieAng Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close ArtsieAng]

I think that they are now party of the points system, as far as I know?

Here is the new point chart, with Europe added:

https://www.my-vacationclub.com/comm...nts_charts.pdf

So Americans can book nightly stays with points but Europeans can't join the points system?
That seems unfair since they are getting the inventory from those owners.

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

That seems unfair

You must be new to timeshare.

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

You must be new to timeshare.

Nah, silly me, thinking things might have changed. NOT!

[Ireland's Call Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ireland's Call]

New points system does not apply to European owners . Indeed according to the Goldman Sachs document issued last year for the "spin-off " , Marriott plan to sell their European timeshares .
But a bit of good news ...Marriott have bought AC Hotel group in Spain Italy . Stayed in their Malaga Hotel a few days ago fot $113. Superb rooftop pool area overlooking new harbour development ..enjoy
G

[ArtsieAng Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close ArtsieAng]

I'm confused....I thought they are now included in the DC program?

Aren't they allowing them to buy into the program just like they did here with US owners?

New points system does not apply to European owners . Indeed according to the Goldman Sachs document issued last year for the "spin-off " , Marriott plan to sell their European timeshares .
But a bit of good news ...Marriott have bought AC Hotel group in Spain Italy . Stayed in their Malaga Hotel a few days ago fot $113. Superb rooftop pool area overlooking new harbour development ..enjoy
G

[Ireland's Call Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ireland's Call]

Have not been notified
Meantime see Goldman Sachs note as follows :
November 21, 2011
INITIATION
Marriott Vacations Worldwide (VAC)
Neutral Equity Research
Uncertainty overcomes current low valuation; Initiate at Neutral
Investment view
We are initiating on Marriott Vacations Worldwide (VAC) with a Neutral
and a $19.25 target (11% upside). While VAC has opportunities ahead,
both on the top and bottom line, we do not see any near-term catalysts
for the shares. Over the next three years the company expects to be
selling out of luxury (Ritz Carlton fractional ownership) and Europe
(Marriott branded timeshare), selling excess land, and focusing on
reducing costs vs. top line growth initiatives. While VAC has the
opportunity to generate significant cash flow there is execution risk as
well as investor base risk, which is not overcome by the low valuation.
Core drivers of growth
VAC’s top line will be driven by increasing contract sales in North
America as well as in Asia Pacific. The bottom line will benefit largely
from a mix shift out of Luxury and Europe, which are lower margin
businesses, and a movement out of weeks into points. We expect that
company consolidated revenue growth will be minimal over the next few
years but EBITDA growth will be material due to lower costs.
Risks to the investment case
The major risks are that the company will not be able to exit the Luxury
and Europe businesses as quickly as expected or that consumer
confidence falls. There is also investor base risk as MAR investors may
not be attracted to VAC.

[ArtsieAng Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close ArtsieAng]

Ireland's Call

Have not been notified

Not surprising. It took Marriott many months to notify all their US owners when they launched the DC.

I did receive the notice of the inclusion of European resorts into the DC, through email. I posted on this thread the new point chart with the point values for the European resorts. The fees to join seem to be the same as the US resorts. Also, all fees are in US dollars.

[Ireland's Call Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ireland's Call]

Rang marriott. yes indeed the point scheme is available for European owners ( they don;t know why I was not advised !)
Anyway it will cost abour $2400 for me to enrol my 2 weeks at Marbella as I did not buy direct .
Cannot see any advantage to me
1 We never had any difficulty with II when we sought a US location or indeed Europe . Did not try Asia.
2 We have already booked our home resort for June 2013
3 Hotel points would be good except Marriott are selling weekends on Ebay for most European cities atr around 50 percent discount ! See "sticky " above .
Any thoughts ? have I missed anything ?
Thanks Garry

[dioxide45 Member Find all posts View Profile Close dioxide45]

Have not been notified
Meantime see Goldman Sachs note as follows :
November 21, 2011
INITIATION
Marriott Vacations Worldwide (VAC)
Neutral Equity Research
Uncertainty overcomes current low valuation; Initiate at Neutral
Investment view
We are initiating on Marriott Vacations Worldwide (VAC) with a Neutral
and a $19.25 target (11% upside). While VAC has opportunities ahead,
both on the top and bottom line, we do not see any near-term catalysts
for the shares. Over the next three years the company expects to be
selling out of luxury (Ritz Carlton fractional ownership) and Europe
(Marriott branded timeshare), selling excess land, and focusing on
reducing costs vs. top line growth initiatives. While VAC has the
opportunity to generate significant cash flow there is execution risk as
well as investor base risk, which is not overcome by the low valuation.
Core drivers of growth
VAC’s top line will be driven by increasing contract sales in North
America as well as in Asia Pacific. The bottom line will benefit largely
from a mix shift out of Luxury and Europe, which are lower margin
businesses, and a movement out of weeks into points. We expect that
company consolidated revenue growth will be minimal over the next few
years but EBITDA growth will be material due to lower costs.
Risks to the investment case
The major risks are that the company will not be able to exit the Luxury
and Europe businesses as quickly as expected or that consumer
confidence falls. There is also investor base risk as MAR investors may
not be attracted to VAC.

I think by the statement in bold, they intend to sell all remaining unsold inventory in their Luxury and Eurpean products. Not sell the segments all together to a different company.

[Ireland's Call Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ireland's Call]

I think by the statement in bold, they intend to sell all remaining unsold inventory in their Luxury and Eurpean products. Not sell the segments all together to a different company.

When you read on it is clear they want to exit Luxury and Europe
G

[chrigus Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chrigus]

Any other European Owner here???

Hi there,
I own three weeks with Marriott (1 x Marbella / 2 x Son Antem) and got their invitation to the Destination Points System recently.
I wonder if there is any other European owner who has completed this or is still contemplating to do so?

Sooner or later, I think the Point System might be a good thing for us as we have one silver week and two gold weeks - and, with a baby which will eventually have to go to school, it might be useful if we could change this into less time in holiday season...
However, this is still 4 to 5 years in the future, so I'm not sure what to do.
I've heard that they increased the Initial Fee quite considerably in the US after the deadline to join at reduced rates expired.
On the other hand, in the US, they gave 800 Points as a welcome gift, whereas in Europe it's on Bonus week certificate with II - which I know is pretty useless for me (had already two of them which both expired as there was never anything to go with it in Europe or Asia - besides you are keen on going into 3* Resort in Spain in Mid January). Am wondering if they send a second invitation with better incentives after the first deadline (August 31).

Does anybody know more?
What do you think?
Who joined so far in Europe?

Would be happy to hear your stories!

Cheers
Christian

Rang marriott. yes indeed the point scheme is available for European owners ( they don;t know why I was not advised !)
Anyway it will cost abour $2400 for me to enrol my 2 weeks at Marbella as I did not buy direct .
Cannot see any advantage to me
1 We never had any difficulty with II when we sought a US location or indeed Europe . Did not try Asia.
2 We have already booked our home resort for June 2013
3 Hotel points would be good except Marriott are selling weekends on Ebay for most European cities atr around 50 percent discount ! See "sticky " above .
Any thoughts ? have I missed anything ?
Thanks Garry

[Ireland's Call Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ireland's Call]

Thanks Christian ( new member ?) New points system won't work for me as mentioned above (we did not buy direct from Marriott and anyway we love our "home "location .)
Good to see you posting . Not many European owners , but many US members are very familiar with Marriott in Spain and France
Regards
Garry

[chrigus Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chrigus]

Hi Gary,

yes, new member
Where do you own?
We also love our home-resort but might need to change into gold holiday seasons in future.
Still don't know if I should do it now or rather wait.
There are so many negative posts about the point system in the US.
Regards,
Christian