Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

SURF CLUB and OC owners- let Marriot know how we feel

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • SURF CLUB and OC owners- let Marriot know how we feel

    I am pretty upset and I hope others will join me and let management know that their new palapa policy of morning and afternoon reservations (only half day availability), all made in advance and for a fee, is NOT acceptable to the majority of owners!

    It is apparent that many people are VERY upset with the new palapa policy. As per my correspondence with the Vice President of the BOD, the Boards of the OC and the SC have adopted a new palapa policy under the mistaken impression that this works best for most people.

    I have been a huge advocate for the Surf Club but I am more than a little upset over this new policy. While the old system wasn't ideal, at least I knew that with a little inconvenience I would have a great vacation.

    Here is an excerpt of what I sent to the President and VP of the BOD and the manager:
    There are several problems that I see with the new policy:
    -instead of lining up before 7:30, people will be standing on line by 8 or so in the hopes of reserving palapas at 10AM. Lines will again form before 1 to reserve for the afternoon's use. So- instead of standing on line once early in the morning, I can look forward to someone having to stand on line for a good part of the day. Alternately, my use of the beach will be limited to half the day, having to leave at 1:00 because we don't like to burn and I have elderly parents. My mother is on medication which makes her sun-sensitive and she must not lie out in the sun.
    -as happened last year, when I arrived on Sunday all the palapas were reserved until Wednesday by people who had arrived in advance and/or were there since the previous week. At least I knew with a bit of inconvenience I would be able to get one the next morning. Under this new system, I would not have been able to enjoy the beach any morning for half the week. In fact, I was only able to secure an advance reservation for 3 days when I was there in January. That means, under the new system, I would only have been able to enjoy the beach for 3 days out of a week's stay, and the likelihood is that I would only have been able to enjoy the beach for half a day for each of those 3 days. If I was lucky I would have gotten to again stand in line at 11 or 12 o'oclock to have the "privelege" of my family staying on the beach for the day and, if I was lucky, we would all get to
    move our lounges and belongings to a different location.
    - I am not even going to address the issue of cost, except in passing to say that we paid a lot of money to buy at the Surf Club and further support the facility with our annual maintenance fees and purchases while we are there, along with compensation (tipping) to the staff for services rendered. Forcing people to pay for palapa use is not fair; the system you are imposing imposes not one, but TWO rental fees per day on anyone "lucky" enough to get one for both the morning and afternoon.

    I hope others will join me in letting them know how we feel about this new system. If me stay mute then nothing will change. E-mails for the personnel can be found on: Aruba Ocean Club

    Please note- subsequent to this inital post they have put the new policy in writing on the website and, although I was told in an e-mail that the Boards of both the OC and SC had decided it was the best policy, the new policy only applies to the SC. I don't want to mislead anybody.

  • #2
    -
    as happened last year, when I arrived on Sunday all the palapas were reserved until Wednesday by people who had arrived in advance and/or were there since the previous week.
    Personally, I think that this might be the biggest problem. Not really sure what the answer is, tho.

    I'm such an early riser, that I usually beat most people to the pool, palapas, etc.

    When I was at the Grand Ocean, in HH, a few summers ago. There was a similar problem with lounges, at the pool. I never had a problem, because I had gotten there so early. And wouldn't you know, I seemed to become very popular, indeed. ....Hmmmm, let's make friends with the lady who gets there at dawn, so that she can save us seats......
    Angela

    If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.

    BTW, I'm still keeping track of how many times you annoy me.

    Comment


    • #3
      Angela-

      My point is really that; as you implied, you had the option before if you really wanted one to get a palapa, since half were available on the day of use. Under the new system, they may all be reserved in advance of your even arriving on the island. I foresee a situation where if lucky you will be able to reserve a few mornings of the week and, if really "lucky" can stand on line again midday in the heat of the day in order to again pay for use in the afternoon and, if really lucky, get to schlep everything and everyone in the heat of the day to another bit of shade.

      Somehow, that doesn't seem to be an appealing vacation to me !

      Marilyn

      Comment


      • #4
        Marilyn

        Under the new system, they may all be reserved in advance of your even arriving on the island.
        I agree with you, this seems unfair, to me as well. I have a feeling that many Marriott owners are not going to be happy with this new rule.

        If there is a shortage of palapas, (which obviously, there is) I think everyone staying at the SC should be given the same chance of getting one, each day.

        I don't think that advanced reservations should be allowed, if it means blocking people out, for half, or possibly, their entire stay.

        I like the day to day system, better! I'm not as upset with the half day rule, although I can understand why others would be. I don't normally spend more than half a day at the beach, anyway. I usually spend the morning at the beach, and then go back for 'Happy Hour'. At that point, I don't need a palapa.
        Angela

        If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.

        BTW, I'm still keeping track of how many times you annoy me.

        Comment


        • #5
          I also find this new policy upsetting - I agree with the early morning line system if that is what you want.....you can wait online and get one. In the past, I have taken advantage of reserving for 3 days but 1/2 a day???? Crazy!

          You both have seen me post OY about this - DH and I chose to use the 'bimini loungers' .

          I also agree with you regarding the 'fee' imposed to reserve - we pay a hefty MF to own there and to turn this unfortunate situation into a money maker is ridiculous.

          However, this is not a situation unique to Marriott or Aruba - we have visited many Mexican resorts and it was the same thing be it at the pool or beachfront.
          Pat
          *** My Website ***

          Comment


          • #6
            GrayFal


            I also agree with you regarding the 'fee' imposed to reserve - we pay a hefty MF to own there and to turn this unfortunate situation into a money maker is ridiculous.
            Very true!!!

            Have they cut the fee for a half day in half? Or, are they charging the same for a half day, as they were getting for the full day?
            Angela

            If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.

            BTW, I'm still keeping track of how many times you annoy me.

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by ArtsieAng View Post
              Very true!!!

              Have they cut the fee for a half day in half? Or, are they charging the same for a half day, as they were getting for the full day?
              That there is even a fee is ridiculous.....JMHO
              Pat
              *** My Website ***

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by GrayFal View Post
                That there is even a fee is ridiculous.....JMHO
                I agree....I was just curious if they were now making even more money, then they had been.

                Do you know if they charge a fee at any other resort? Hawaii?
                Angela

                If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.

                BTW, I'm still keeping track of how many times you annoy me.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by ArtsieAng
                  I agree....I was just curious if they were now making even more money, then they had been.
                  I don't think anyone is "making money" on this. The fees should be going to the HOA and the HOA's finances are designed to break even each year. Thus, without the fees, annual maintenance fees would presumably be higher. With the fees, only those owners - and especially renters and exchangers - who use the palapas pay the fees.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dave M
                    I don't think anyone is "making money" on this. The fees should be going to the HOA and the HOA's finances are designed to break even each year. Thus, without the fees, annual maintenance fees would presumably be higher. With the fees, only those owners - and especially renters and exchangers - who use the palapas pay the fees.
                    When the Surf Club opened (and I previously stayed at the Ocean Club) there was no fee, you went down in the morning, waited on line and got your assignment.
                    The attendant remains at the hut all day - hands out towels, etc.
                    There was no additional personel added.
                    Pat
                    *** My Website ***

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dave M
                      I don't think anyone is "making money" on this. The fees should be going to the HOA and the HOA's finances are designed to break even each year. Thus, without the fees, annual maintenance fees would presumably be higher. With the fees, only those owners - and especially renters and exchangers - who use the palapas pay the fees.
                      Dave....I understand that Marriott doesn't pocket this money. I should have worded my statement better, and used the word 'charging'.
                      Angela

                      If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.

                      BTW, I'm still keeping track of how many times you annoy me.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Pat -

                        I didn't word my comment very well. I didn't intend to suggest that there were additional costs that the fee is intended to defray. Only that there is one pot of income for the HOA and as palapa fees go up, the need for revenue from maintenance fees should go down, even if only by a miniscule amount per owner.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          LOL...my communication skills aren't the best today, either!

                          I am just annoyed that there is any fee at all for a basic service. There should be no fee to sit under a palapa - will they start charging a fee to use a lounge chair at the pool or beach or sit on a sofa in the lobby?

                          I think the original thought was maybe by charging peple it would cut down on complaints about waiting in line for a palapa - but it has snowballed into something else. And Marriott is generating a lot of ill will toward a nice resort.
                          It really is a shame. JHMO
                          Pat
                          *** My Website ***

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ArtsieAng
                            Do you know if they charge a fee at any other resort? Hawaii?
                            A fair number of Marriott timeshare resorts are on public beaches. Often umbrellas and beach chairs are not provided by Marriott but are available from a concessionarie or local government for a fee. For example, the rentals at Marriott Hilton Head beach resorts for an umbrella and two beach chairs cost a bit more than $30 per day, with small discounts for paying for multiple days at a time.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dave M View Post
                              A fair number of Marriott timeshare resorts are on public beaches. Often umbrellas and beach chairs are not provided by Marriott but are available from a concessionarie or local government for a fee. For example, the rentals at Marriott Hilton Head beach resorts for an umbrella and two beach chairs cost a bit more than $30 per day, with small discounts for paying for multiple days at a time.
                              At Ocean Pointe as well!
                              Pat
                              *** My Website ***

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X