Question about MF's and other stuff

[StressCadet Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close StressCadet]

Pardon my ignorance, as I have only owned a fixed week and a credit/points system. Both of which allowed me to pay my MF's in full or quarterly without concern to what I'd like to do with my week or credits (stay, book, exchange)

IF I owned an EOY Marriott...I'd pay half the maint fee each year in Jan-correct?

I'd want to book a year out for the best week. If, say, I had a week that had it's use year in 2011. In 2010, the same week-I'd call/go online to reserve. Would they want my 2011 (half) MF's at that time?

**OR**

Is that where exchanging comes in to play? If I wanted to use that 2011 week reserved in 2010 to deposit in to II do they require prepayment of the MF's?

ALSO

If I did deposit the 2011 week in 2010 and requested an exchange...can I still search with the week? If something came up in FLEX and I had an ongoing search against the week-can I still use it to book something else and how does that work? Do I have to cancel the search first-or does it allow me to use it to search and book regardless of the request?

I know my II screen looks different from weeks owners. I can basically do whatever I want with a "float" week and can search as far as II has inventory-I realize this is not the case with weeks that actually have check in dates and expirations.

Still learning after all these years

[ArtsieAng Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close ArtsieAng]

Pardon my ignorance, as I have only owned a fixed week and a credit/points system. Both of which allowed me to pay my MF's in full or quarterly without concern to what I'd like to do with my week or credits (stay, book, exchange)

IF I owned an EOY Marriott...I'd pay half the maint fee each year in Jan-correct?

I do not own any EOY's, but yes, I believe so.

I'd want to book a year out for the best week. If, say, I had a week that had it's use year in 2011. In 2010, the same week-I'd call/go online to reserve. Would they want my 2011 (half) MF's at that time?

Your best bet would be to set your alarm clock so that you could be on the phone, and the Marriott website at 9 AM, EST. You would want to do this on the first possible day that you could book your week. Some members own 2+ weeks, and are able to book 13 months out. So, in order to have the best possible chance of getting the week that you want, it is important to try and book your week the first minute that you can......You would need to inquire about your specific week. I believe that some may be as early as Thurs, for the weekend check-in date. I know that may sound crazy, but unfortunately, it's true.

BTW.....Your MF's must be paid in advance of you reserving your week, as far as I know.

**OR**

Is that where exchanging comes in to play? If I wanted to use that 2011 week reserved in 2010 to deposit in to II do they require prepayment of the MF's?

I think that your MF's need to be paid in order to reserve your week regardless of what you do with it.


ALSO

If I did deposit the 2011 week in 2010 and requested an exchange...can I still search with the week? If something came up in FLEX and I had an ongoing search against the week-can I still use it to book something else and how does that work? Do I have to cancel the search first-or does it allow me to use it to search and book regardless of the request?

Yes, you can use your week to search, and you can grab anything that you can see with it. You do not need to cancel your request in order to search, or grab a week. Your request will automatically be canceled if you use the week to snatch something you see during searching.


I know my II screen looks different from weeks owners. I can basically do whatever I want with a "float" week and can search as far as II has inventory-I realize this is not the case with weeks that actually have check in dates and expirations.

Still learning after all these years

Me too!

Once you have deposited a week into II, you will be able to search with a fathom week, in order to see what that week will get you. You can play with your Marriott by putting in different dates, bedrooms, etc., and see what the results are.

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

Pardon my ignorance, as I have only owned a fixed week and a credit/points system. Both of which allowed me to pay my MF's in full or quarterly without concern to what I'd like to do with my week or credits (stay, book, exchange)

IF I owned an EOY Marriott...I'd pay half the maint fee each year in Jan-correct?

Correct.

I'd want to book a year out for the best week. If, say, I had a week that had it's use year in 2011. In 2010, the same week-I'd call/go online to reserve. Would they want my 2011 (half) MF's at that time?

No. Marriott does not require MF's be paid in advance to make a reservation for the next year. I have reserved my 2010 week at Grand Chateau, locked off the unit and have already exchanged the master suite for a week in Kauai. I have a pending exchange request for Lake Tahoe in July of 2010. The MF's for 2010 will be due and payable in Jan. of 2010, not in advance.

**OR**


Is that where exchanging comes in to play? If I wanted to use that 2011 week reserved in 2010 to deposit in to II do they require prepayment of the MF's?

No, Marriott does not require MF's be paid in advance to reserve or exchange.

ALSO

If I did deposit the 2011 week in 2010 and requested an exchange...can I still search with the week? If something came up in FLEX and I had an ongoing search against the week-can I still use it to book something else and how does that work? Do I have to cancel the search first-or does it allow me to use it to search and book regardless of the request?

You can still search using a week that has an ongoing request. I have an ongoing request with one of my Marriott weeks but, I will occasionally look to see what else is available with that particular unit. If I see something online that I want, I can make the exchange without having to call and cancell the ongoing request. It will cancel automatically.

I know my II screen looks different from weeks owners. I can basically do whatever I want with a "float" week and can search as far as II has inventory-I realize this is not the case with weeks that actually have check in dates and expirations.

Still learning after all these years

Huh? Now you have me confused. I can easily search the same using my Marriott week as I can using my DRI points. Marriott is a weeks based system but, the majority or floating weeks with no set check in date. The one fixed week I with DRI, I can search the same as anything else. The only difference is the check in date is put in for me rather than having me type in the check in date where it says FLOAT. I don't find there to be a lot of difference between searching with a Marriott floating week, a fixed week or a points based reservation system like DRI. I can still search essentially the same way with any of these systems.

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dougp26364

No. Marriott does not require MF's be paid in advance to make a reservation for the next year. I have reserved my 2010 week at Grand Chateau, locked off the unit and have already exchanged the master suite for a week in Kauai. I have a pending exchange request for Lake Tahoe in July of 2010. The MF's for 2010 will be due and payable in Jan. of 2010, not in advance.

See I'm still learn too, although I'm a bit confused myself......My maintenance fee is due in Jan, for usage of the same year. I needed to pay my MF's Jan 09, for my 2009 usage.

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

See I'm still learn too, although I'm a bit confused myself......My maintenance fee is due in Jan, for usage of the same year. I needed to pay my MF's Jan 09, for my 2009 usage.

As an example of this..... I reserved my Marriott week for March 2010 in March 2009 - today, I decide I want to deposit the 2010 week in II - I can do that without paying the 2010 fee which is due in January 2010.

The opposite of this is Starwood - starting in 2008, Starwood requires non-SVN owners to pay their MF at the time of reservation So when I call in July 2009 to make my July 2010 reservation, I will have to pay the 2010 MF BEFORE they let me make the resie - regardless of whether it is for personal use or deposit.

I own several other ownerships/resorts that u can reserve your week and only pay the MF IF u deposit with an exchange company - if u r going to use it yourself (or rent, give to a friend, etc.) you pay the 'regular' time.

[ArtsieAng Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close ArtsieAng]

Pat,

As an example of this..... I reserved my Marriott week for March 2010 in March 2009 - today, I decide I want to deposit the 2010 week in II - I can do that without paying the 2010 fee which is due in January 2010.

Oy....That's correct. I'm totally confused myself this morning. I do the same exact thing. Don't have a clue what I was thinking, or why I was so confused. Maybe more coffee would help.

The opposite of this is Starwood - starting in 2008, Starwood requires non-SVN owners to pay their MF at the time of reservation So when I call in July 2009 to make my July 2010 reservation, I will have to pay the 2010 MF BEFORE they let me make the resie - regardless of whether it is for personal use or deposit.

Yup!

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Stressy

I know my II screen looks different from weeks owners. I can basically do whatever I want with a "float" week and can search as far as II has inventory-I realize this is not the case with weeks that actually have check in dates and expirations.

Doug

Huh? Now you have me confused. I can easily search the same using my Marriott week as I can using my DRI points. Marriott is a weeks based system but, the majority or floating weeks with no set check in date. The one fixed week I with DRI, I can search the same as anything else. The only difference is the check in date is put in for me rather than having me type in the check in date where it says FLOAT. I don't find there to be a lot of difference between searching with a Marriott floating week, a fixed week or a points based reservation system like DRI. I can still search essentially the same way with any of these systems.

I have an II Wyndham/Fairshare Plus account that is point based and 'looks' as your points account does Stressy.

It is the never-ending float week that u can use to search with no dates/restrictions.

A Marriott screen will look 'fixed' not 'infinity'

You will be able to 'fool around' with your undeposited week and since II just doesn't get the EOY thing you will have every year listed in the account.....just don't deposit what u don't own!
Why this is good for you, is it will allow u to test what dates in your season will be the strongest trader by using 'phantom' dates/reservations to search with.
Once you have the account - post back on this thread and we will guide you.

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

Oy....That's correct. I'm totally confused myself this morning. I do the same exact thing. Don't have a clue what I was thinking, or why I was so confused. Maybe more coffee would help.

Welcome back to reality, Angela

[dougp26364 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dougp26364]

Stressy

Doug
I have an II Wyndham/Fairshare Plus account that is point based and 'looks' as your points account does Stressy.

It is the never-ending float week that u can use to search with no dates/restrictions.

A Marriott screen will look 'fixed' not 'infinity'

You will be able to 'fool around' with your undeposited week and since II just doesn't get the EOY thing you will have every year listed in the account.....just don't deposit what u don't own!
Why this is good for you, is it will allow u to test what dates in your season will be the strongest trader by using 'phantom' dates/reservations to search with.
Once you have the account - post back on this thread and we will guide you.

Somehow with I.I., I don't think infinity really matters. Most resorts can only deposit one year in advance of their reserved arrival date with a few being allowed to deposit two years in advance. Since a weeks deposit can be used from 1 year prior to the arrival date and up to 2 years after the arrival date, it really doesn't matter if you can see 5, 10 or 20 years into the future. Nothing is going to be there.

I have both a points based reservation system with DRI's THE Club and a few weeks based reservation programs. Both can see as far as the other as far as I.I. availabilty goes.

I guess the exception would be if I allowed a weeks deposit to sit unused for a year or more. With us, that never happens.

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Somehow with I.I., I don't think infinity really matters. Most resorts can only deposit one year in advance of their reserved arrival date with a few being allowed to deposit two years in advance. Since a weeks deposit can be used from 1 year prior to the arrival date and up to 2 years after the arrival date, it really doesn't matter if you can see 5, 10 or 20 years into the future. Nothing is going to be there.

I have both a points based reservation system with DRI's THE Club and a few weeks based reservation programs. Both can see as far as the other as far as I.I. availability goes.

I guess the exception would be if I allowed a weeks deposit to sit unused for a year or more. With us, that never happens.

It doesn't mean infinity as in the future so much as just 'looking different'

If you use your 2009 deposited Marriott week to exchange - it is gone from the screen where u can search, you will see 2010 but the 2009 option is gone.
I deposited 5 Wyn/FSP 'Weeks' in my II account for 2009 and it STILL shows a 2009 week as available.

Also, there is no choice of dates so no expiration date of the deposit ....you just search with a unit size - 0,1,2,3 - the screen just has a very different appearance then a 'weeks' account. I would not have understood what Stressy was referring to if I did not have this particular account.

Stressy, which points system do u own?

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Doug said:


I guess the exception would be if I allowed a weeks deposit to sit unused for a year or more. With us, that never happens.
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I say:

Exactly. I have access to a friends II account and her weeks definitely have expiration dates based on the check in days.

It doesn't mean infinity as in the future so much as just 'looking different'

If you use your 2009 deposited Marriott week to exchange - it is gone from the screen where u can search, you will see 2010 but the 2009 option is gone.
I deposited 5 Wyn/FSP 'Weeks' in my II account for 2009 and it STILL shows a 2009 week as available.

Also, there is no choice of dates so no expiration date of the deposit ....you just search with a unit size - 0,1,2,3 - the screen just has a very different appearance then a 'weeks' account. I would not have understood what Stressy was referring to if I did not have this particular account.

Stressy, which points system do u own?

That is exactly how I see my screen. I own Worldmark. I have a request in place currently and once I do that-I get a "second" float week with which to search. I have never had them actually deposit a week because I fear it would be a dog and I wouldn't see anything. If I want something REALLY bad-I use full credits or I snag a week in FLEX for a lot less.

To recap the Marriott answers:

1. You don't have to prepay MF's for reserving or exchanging.

2. Once you have your Marriott week added to your II account. You can search (pretend or phantom) with any ole check in date just to look around and try various scenarios.

You can also reserve a week and do a request first (not giving up your week) OR you reserve and then deposit either immediately or when you decide and that becomes a deposit with fixed expiration dates. You can then also make a request or snag a week or wait for Flex.

Next question, please.

Notice I said *If* I owned. I don't yet. I get this bee in my bonnet every few months...I know what I'd like-I just haven't found it yet.

But-if I found a week EOY with 2010 usage and it's already past the 12 month reservation mark-is it possible to NOT have any weeks left for that season? If I just wanted to exchange-can Marriott assign me a week already deposited-did I read that somewhere?

OR

Is it better to start fresh with 2011 as the first use year so that I can maximize my trading power by reserving the best possible week?

AND

Is buying a lessor season still considered acceptable if I was only concerned about FLEX...and I didn't have high expectations for other exchanges?

Thanks!