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I never participated in the annual scheduling, and never quite understood the process. Yesterday I called VRI to ask some questions.
I have a rotating week at Sweetwater Waikiki. 2007 was in June, 2008 will be in September.
When the system was ORE, I was told that my week was "gold" which meant that if I was not able to get the week I wanted, I would get my week back. When I called yesterday, I was told that that was true only for annual scheduling, not for any other time. So since I missed the 2008's annual scheduling, if I request a week now with the 2008 week I will not be guaranteed my exchange request. Also, I will not be allowed to request a 2009 week with the 2008 week until after the 2009 annual scheduling has been completed. I cannot deposit the 2008 week now for the 2009 annual scheduling - they will only take 2009 weeks for that. So, I won't be depositing the 2008 week because everything is pretty much taken. My 2009trader will be in February, which will trade great in RCI, so I'll deposit it there.
I did ask if I could put in my Hawaii week, exchange for a another week, then deposit it into RCI or II. They said yes, no problem, but that I would incur a second $74 charge. (Because I already have a designated week, an internal exchange, even during annual scheduling, will cost me $74.)
The reason I asked is because the September weeks are not great traders in RCI, even though it's Hawaii. I thought I might be able to get something that would trade better, and deposit it. Although I am too late for this year, I would consider it in 3 years. However, it would cost me $128 to secure a better trader. I'd have to see.
I'd be interested in knowing if anyone else has this type of week, and how they use it to maximum potential. Thanks.Jacki
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I own several ORE weeks, and as far as I know, the exchange rules have not changed since VRI bought ORE. However, the rules have always been very complicated.Originally posted by jackio
If I understand you correctly, you own a deeded Sweetwater Waikiki week, not a MROP. Is that correct?
And, it sounds like you have been told in the past that could request a week via Annual Scheduling, and, if you didn't get your request, you could keep your Sweetwater Waikiki week instead. Is that right? I didn't know that ORE offered this, and I'm not sure how they would implement such a plan. What happens if they can't get you your week, but have already committed your week to someone with a higher scheduling priority? Or, do Gold Weeks always have Priority 1 in annual scheduling?
Anyway, now that Annual Scheduling is over, ORE/VRI*ety doesn't have any sort of request first program. If you want to request something, you have to first give ORE your week, and then hope that the week you want becomes available. This is how ORE has always done their ongoing requests, I believe (except maybe for the last-minute requests -- not sure about these.)
I don't know what your chances are of getting what you want via an ongoing request with ORE/VRI*ety. I've asked here (or maybe it was on TUG) whether anyone has ever had an ongoing request with ORE, and didn't get any answers. I have several ongoing requests in myself, but they are new and this is the first year I've tried it.
Only weeks from that year can participate in Annual Scheduling. In other words, only 2008 weeks can be used in the Annual Scheduling for 2008, 2009 weeks in the Annual Scheduling for 2009, 2010 weeks in the Annual Scheduling for 2010, etc.Originally posted by jackio
As for whether you can get anything good by doing an ongoing request with your 2008 credit, I don't know. I should have a better idea in a few months when I've seen the results of my own ongoing requests. However, I was told by two ORE reps that weeks that expire soon get higher priority than current year weeks. In other words, I have ongoing requests for 2008, using some 2007 year credits. Two ORE reps told me that my requests using 2007 weeks would have priority over requests using 2008 weeks, because ORE wants to get me something for my banked 2007 credits before they expire at the end of 2008. So, that should help you get something in 2009 with your 2008 credit.
Sounds good. That's what I'd do with the 2009 week. (Or rent it, or use it myself.)Originally posted by jackio
OK, you've lost me here. Why would it cost you $128 (rather than $74) to get a different week from the ORE/VRI*ety exchange to use as an II or RCI trader? Also, why is it too late to do that for this year? The earliest ongoing requests could have been submitted for 2008 was just 6 weeks ago, and you can still get your ongoing request in on the first day that they accept them for 2009. Or, do you mean that you will request a better week via Annual Scheduling (rather than via an ongoing request) in 3 years?Originally posted by jackio
By the way, there are some issues with trying to deposit some ORE weeks into II. Only the ones listed as part of resort code MRO deposit well into II. I can send you the list of ORE resorts for II if you need it.Comment
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Thanks for the explanations, Judy. It always seemed very complicated to me, which is one reason why I never did it.
I do own a deeded week, however it is a rotating week - Sept, Feb, June pushing back one week each year til it becomes Oct, March, July, etc. It just goes one week further on the calendar each year.
They did tell me at ORE that if I deposited the week I was guaranteed my request or would get my week back. They called it a "gold" week. Yesterday they told me that would only apply during annual scheduling however. So I suppose that, yes, they would assign me a #1 priority each time.
Because I have a deeded week, it would cost me $74 to get a week out of annual scheduling. Then they told me it would cost another $74 to deposit an exchanged week into RCI. With my Sweetwater week it doesn't cost me anything to bank my week into RCI. I think the $148 (not $128 as previously posted) might be worth it only for the years I get a September week, as that week does not trade well with RCI. I called II to inquire, and they told me the Feb. or June weeks would get an AC but not a Sept week. So I think I will forego depositing my 2008 week with VRI, and wait until 2011 when I get another Sept. week (should be an Oct. week by then) and attempt to participate in annual scheduling.
Thanks again for your clarification of this process.JackiComment
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Thanks for the explanation of gold rotating weeks. I think only a few ORE resorts offer this type of rotating week. Gold rotators sound pretty valuable, actually!Originally posted by jackio
As for the fee to get a week to deposit into RCI, I think it should be just $74, not $148. I don't think there's any fee to deposit your week with RCI. I suspect what the person at ORE meant was that it would cost you a $74 exchange fee to get a different week for your own personal use, or that it would cost you the same $74 exchange fee to get a week to bank with RCI. I don't think you'd have to pay the $74 fee twice. I need to call ORE on Monday anyway, so I will try to ask them about this.
As for how well your September Hawaii week would trade in RCI, I'm not sure. I'd suggest posting that specific question on the exchanging board, since probably a lot of people here don't check out the VRI board.Comment
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By the way, there are some issues with trying to deposit some ORE weeks into II. Only the ones listed as part of resort code MRO deposit well into II. I can send you the list of ORE resorts for II if you need it.[/QUOTE]
Judy,
Would you mind sending me the list please. I may want to deposit to II to try them out having been exclusively RCI to date.Mark B.Comment
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The MROP annual scheduling is first done completely as its own entity. Then the annual scheduling is done for non-MROP weeks and people who did not get a confirmation with their MROP annual scheduling. (At least that is how it has been explained to me...)Originally posted by jackio
You would not lose your week unless they came up with a match for you, but it may be difficult for you to get a match. When I do MROP annual scheduling, there is always a statement that all MROP weeks would fill first before they would give me a non-MROP week during annual scheduling.
It's always worth a try, though!Comment
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That's my understanding of how it works, too. First, MROP Annual Scheduling is run using MROP weeks only; then, "Systemwide Annual Scheduling" is run, using all the unscheduled MROP weeks, plus everything else.Originally posted by chemteach
But, there is still a priority (1 to 5) during Systemwide Annual Scheduling, so I'm not sure what happens, if, say, owner "John Doe" has Priority 1 and requests Jackio's Gold week, and then Jackio doesn't get her request because she had Priority 5. One way around this problem would be for Gold weeks to always have Priority 1. Another way would be to have a computer program that cycles through all the requests multiple times (so, if Jackio doesn't get her request, it releases her Gold week back to her, and then gives John Doe something else), but that would be awfully complicated.Comment
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No problem! Actually, it wasn't my list; I downloaded it from TUG. But, I just checked, and the same list was posted here on TS4MS. Edye (chemteach) was the one who posted it. Here is her post; you can use the arrow to go to the original thread here on TS4MS:Originally posted by basham View Post
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