Wyndham RCI 2011 Changes & Updates

[Marti Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Marti]

Anyone have any information on the
Wyndham RCI changes coming in Jan

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

Wyndham's web site has some information up. There have also been some discussions OY.

[gophish Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close gophish]

There is also a big thread on the Wyndham Resorts Forum at
Wyndham Resorts Forums • Index page
The points values for RCI deposits were significantly raised and it seems you can't combine generic deposits but you can only do generic deposits until the new system is put up in January so those of us that have points left this year that nwe were planning on depositing lose. Some folks estimate generics are worth about 28k=8 pts, 70k=14 pts, 154k=18 pts.
So there is no way to get the really good stuff with generic deposits and for now that is all we are getting.

[littlestar Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close littlestar]

I think I may like it if it gets me the stuff I could never get before (not to mention being able to search online for myself - that's an obvious improvement). Of course, someone that was maxing off season trades with low points deposits will probably hate it.

I like Wyndham points really well. Their internal system/stable of resorts is terrific and if I now will have access to the high end RCI stuff for a set grid deposit, then I think I will really like that.

Here's some frequently asked questions answered (you'll need to be logged into your Wyndham account, though):

https://www.wyndhamvacationresorts.c...id=LIB-0002614

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

Also keep in mind that Wyndham represents a good value for SFX trades - when deposited (depending on the current promotion) you will get one or two bonus weeks as well as a regular exchange.

Here is a thread outlining what resorts and season/weeks they are interested in.
http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...ing-power.html

[gophish Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close gophish]

I think I may like it if it gets me the stuff I could never get before (not to mention being able to search online for myself - that's an obvious improvement). Of course, someone that was maxing off season trades with low points deposits will probably hate it.

I like Wyndham points really well. Their internal system/stable of resorts is terrific and if I now will have access to the high end RCI stuff for a set grid deposit, then I think I will really like that.

Here's some frequently asked questions answered (you'll need to be logged into your Wyndham account, though):

https://www.wyndhamvacationresorts.c...id=LIB-0002614

If you read closely some of this dribble you will discover that not only are they changing the deposit nvalues but they say you can deposit any amount of points from 27K inincriments of 1K but since under the new rules you can't go on to your RCI account and combine deposits like all other RCI members or you can't go to RCI and search and book with the 27K or any other K number that they will let you deposit. It looks like a bunch of "hey, we're your friends you can trust us crap" to me, while they once again reduce the ways that we can use our benefits..
I certaintly meant no offense to follks like you that are satisfied with the new system and think it better than the old one but there are many Wyndham owners that use all the benefits that we were sold a bill of goods for when we purchased and that included both trading red 2 bedroom deposits and off season trades that you seem to distane so much.
This new program while it does have some benefits especially to the mega point owners which Wyndham would like us all to be, also reduces benefits as we have seen them do in the past.

[littlestar Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close littlestar]

I certaintly meant no offense to follks like you that are satisfied with the new system and think it better than the old one but there are many Wyndham owners that use all the benefits that we were sold a bill of goods for when we purchased and that included both trading red 2 bedroom deposits and off season trades that you seem to distane so much.

I"ve made a few low point trades myself and I will miss it (like 42,000 points for a Hilton Park Soleil 1 bedroom next September, but I had to call RCI numerous times to get that). Sorry if my writing sounded like I was putting anyone down for uptrading (I uptrade all the time in II with my lock-offs). This new grid looks like it's set up like HGVC with a fixed grid for RCI. Of course, I don't know if I'll like it until I see how it actually works. Should be interesting.

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

Here is a thread outlining what resorts and season/weeks they are interested in.

Note that this may have changed. It would be worth sending Mark a quick PM (I forget if he is here or OY) to see what they most need. But, I do agree that SFX is starting to look more appealing for many Wyndham owners' situations.

you can't go on to your RCI account and combine deposits like all other RCI members

I could be wrong, but I think this is how this works for all of the other point-based minis that have system-specific portals in RCI.

I'll miss those low-value studio trades, for sure. But, I have some fixed weeks in my portfolio, and in the new TPU-based system, with change back for those, my strategy will be to use my fixed weeks for lower-TPU trades, and the Wyndham fixed grid for high-TPU exchanges---though I will probably continue to use Wyndham mostly internally, as I do today. There is rarely one system or style of ownership that will be good for everything, and so for most people a "portfolio approach" helps limit the damage done by any particular change.

[lawren2 Malibu Beach Barbie & A Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close lawren2]

Note that this may have changed. It would be worth sending Mark a quick PM (I forget if he is here or OY) to see what they most need. But, I do agree that SFX is starting to look more appealing for many Wyndham owners' situations.


I could be wrong, but I think this is how this works for all of the other point-based minis that have system-specific portals in RCI.

I'll miss those low-value studio trades, for sure. But, I have some fixed weeks in my portfolio, and in the new TPU-based system, with change back for those, my strategy will be to use my fixed weeks for lower-TPU trades, and the Wyndham fixed grid for high-TPU exchanges---though I will probably continue to use Wyndham mostly internally, as I do today. There is rarely one system or style of ownership that will be good for everything, and so for most people a "portfolio approach" helps limit the damage done by any particular change.

It is always helpful to ask what they need to fulfill another request.

Mark does not participate OY only here at TS4Ms.

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forums/ask-sfx/

[Jya-Ning Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close Jya-Ning]

It is kind of confuse. The only thing that look settle to me is the fix grid table. But I have no idea what it suppose to be. Since all other point system with fix grid are before the new RCI TPU changes, at that moment, you are exchange week to week. Now, you have combine and keep the change. So no idea. If they keep the Wyndham on-line RCI feature for so long just so we get the same as old RCI way, it will be very interesting.

For middle or high point owner that not in VIP, the house keep credit may become issue. Use to be, stdio is 28HK. Now, look like every 2000 deposit will require 1HK. So use that you can put some RCI deposit, get some HK for split week vacation internally, now, it will need more calculations.

At this moment, I prefer to wait till the system actual out to say what it is. If we have to use the fix grid for everything in RCI, we lose one part of flexibility but get another one, I would be very surprised to believe it will be getting all. Usually, newer expensive resort will get more TPU, or they will need to go to RCI's registry inventory. If anything, I believe in 2002 when they still use the old grid, it still looks fair (without the 28k get 2 BD deal), but in 2007, it starts look unblanced even if you deposit 2BD to RCI to get new Wyndham 2 BD from it if you don't count the exchange fee.

I would think the system should try to push more decision to owner, so if someone willing to travel in winter with lower point, or in last min to take advantage of some shoulder season, from RCI's point of view, it will help them get more exchange fee.

Plus, some of the resorts I take over RCI, I would not believe they are worth half of Wyndham's new point grid. RCI has no issue to rent out newer resort in good season and get more money from it. They want to get exchange fee from mid and low resort that in the shoulder season and if they can get in bad season, that is more plus for them. From Wyndham's point of view, as long as they get their point balanced, it does not matter, they already collect money from us.

Jya-Ning