What is the going rate these days for W/FF points?

[Spence Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Spence]

What would a great price be for 300,000 FF points at Washington DC @ Old Town Alexandria, MF of $1479?

[jlfernandez5 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jlfernandez5]

Last year 3 cents per point would have been good, 2 cents great, this year 2 cents good, 1 cent average, below 1 cent great. Please include closing costs in these figures. This resort is one of the most requested resort especially over the holidays. Although the maintance fees are a little high if you want the 13 month ARP then there worth it. Especially if your going to reserve one of these weeks and then rent it out.

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Last year 3 cents per point would have been good, 2 cents great, this year 2 cents good, 1 cent average, below 1 cent great. Please include closing costs in these figures. This resort is one of the most requested resort especially over the holidays. Although the maintance fees are a little high if you want the 13 month ARP then there worth it. Especially if your going to reserve one of these weeks and then rent it out.

2¢ to 3¢ was what I thought I remembered, that's why I was a little bit surprised when I saw this go for $3748 incl CC or 1.25¢/pt. Yes, I thought the MFs were a little high but as pointed out, you're buying the right to the ARP at that resort.

Can you save FF points to the next year?

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

Yes, if you pool them before the use year starts, they are good for three years from the pooling date. VIPs get an extra N months grace period into the start of the use year. $25 to pool, waived for some VIPs.

The ARP has less of an incentive than it once did, because you can't ARP to RCI. So, it's only useful to people who want to stay at that resort, or want to rent out units. Smaller market demand, so less of a premium.

Edited to add: It's also useful to ARP to an independent exchange. Lawren posted a BC Orlando sighting in TPI today.

[Spence Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Spence]

Yes, if you pool them before the use year starts, they are good for three years from the pooling date. VIPs get an extra N months grace period into the start of the use year. $25 to pool, waived for some VIPs.

The ARP has less of an incentive than it once did, because you can't ARP to RCI. So, it's only useful to people who want to stay at that resort, or want to rent out units. Smaller market demand, so less of a premium.

Edited to add: It's also useful to ARP to an independent exchange. Lawren posted a BC Orlando sighting in TPI today.

So you have to 'save/pool' before the use year starts, not like Sunterra where you have until 30Jun to save 100% of points to next year?

[mshatty Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close mshatty]

2¢ to 3¢ was what I thought I remembered, that's why I was a little bit surprised when I saw this go for $3748 incl CC or 1.25¢/pt. Yes, I thought the MFs were a little high but as pointed out, you're buying the right to the ARP at that resort.

Can you save FF points to the next year?

Spence

If you are already into the Use Year and your are not a Gold or Platinum VIP, your only choice to save them for future use is to deposit them into RCI. You have 2 years from the date you deposit them into RCI to use them.

Prior to the start of your use year, you can put the points into the Credit Pool. You have 3 years from the date you put the points into the Credit Pool to use them. If you are Gold or Platinum VIP, you get 6 additional months into your use year to deposit them into the Credit Pool. It costs $25 to deposit points into the Credit Pool.

Once points are in the Credit Pool, you have some restrictions on how you can use them but there are easy ways to get them out and have more options to use them. One big disadvantage of depositing into the Credit Pool is you lose the ability to reserve a unit in the ARP 13 to 10 month reservation period at home resorts.

[mshatty Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close mshatty]

So you have to 'save/pool' before the use year starts, not like Sunterra where you have until 30Jun to save 100% of points to next year?

Only Gold and Platinum VIP FF owners can do this. Regular folks have to do it before their use year starts.

[Spence Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Spence]

Once points are in the Credit Pool, you have some restrictions on how you can use them but there are easy ways to get them out and have more options to use them. One big disadvantage of depositing into the Credit Pool is you lose the ability to reserve a unit in the ARP 13 to 10 month reservation period at home resorts.

Understand the loss of ARP when in Credit Pool, don't understand the rest of above statement.

[Jya-Ning Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close Jya-Ning]

Spence:

You can not use credit pool points into RCI deposit, but you can make a reservation and cancel it, so it become cancel point and you can use the cancel points into RCI deposit.

Also, you can not transfer out credit pool points. Only regualr pool points can be transfered.

The current rent rate in Yahoo group is around $6.5 per 1K, I saw some over $7, so if you got that, you can rent out and get around 16% in return. It is close to risk free.

Jya-Ning

ps. There is one more restriction, say you put 2008 points into credit pool, when you try to pull the point out to use it, there must have points in the credit pool that covers the trip period you plan to take. A while ago, when most of the points use year start at Jan, the point in the credit pool may dry out. Use an example, say only 2 people put in points into credit pool all are 2007 usuage, then, if they want to use it for 2008 trip, since there is no 2008 points, they can not do that until someone deposit 2008 points. I guess this is similar to prevent oversold situation. But now people get use year from different quarter, so I have not hear this happen for 2 years.