Wyndham and RCI accounts

[4ARedOctober Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close 4ARedOctober]

I am considering buying some Wyndham/FF UDI points resale. From reading all the many threads I am still not clear on the RCI relationship.

Are UDI points are used in the internal Wyndham System and not RCI points?

Can we use our existing RCI weeks account instead of opening up a new one?

Will we be able to delete/extract the 'automatic' RCI membership payment which is included in the MF's and just use our existing account?

If we have to use a separate account in RCI are we able to put our other non-Wyndham weeks into the system not as PIC weeks but as regular trading weeks with the same trading power etc?

Thanks....I have read so much here my head is spinning and I am not sure if the above has been addressed already.

[mshatty Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close mshatty]

My responses are in this color.

I am considering buying some Wyndham/FF UDI points resale. From reading all the many threads I am still not clear on the RCI relationship.

Are UDI points are used in the internal Wyndham System and not RCI points?

FF/Wyn points are known as Fairshare Plus points (FSP). You can own points through an UDI or converted fix week deed.

FSP is a completely different points program from RCI points.


Can we use our existing RCI weeks account instead of opening up a new one?

Yes. For your FSP points, you have to FF/Wyn set up the RCI weeks account so that it comports with the points deposits for exchanges. Since you already own a RCI weeks account, you can have FF/Wyn use that as your RCI weeks account. FF/Wyn will reimburse you for any advance membership fees you have paid.

Will we be able to delete/extract the 'automatic' RCI membership payment which is included in the MF's and just use our existing account?

No. See above about using your current RCI weeks account. There is no actual RCI fee payment to FF/Wyn but a FSP fee that is in addition to the resort MF. The FSP fee ends up paying the RCI fee, whatever it is. The FSP fee also includes monies for the reservation system, directory, etc.

If we have to use a separate account in RCI are we able to put our other non-Wyndham weeks into the system not as PIC weeks but as regular trading weeks with the same trading power etc?

Yes. However, if your current RCI account is a weeks account, FF/Wyn will work to have that account be used. If you can do that it will save you weeks (months) in getting the RCI account set up for the FF/Wyn FSP point deposits etc.

Thanks....I have read so much here my head is spinning and I am not sure if the above has been addressed already.

Yes, your head could be used in the Exortist.

[4ARedOctober Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close 4ARedOctober]

Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it. Another RCI question for you.

If I deposit a FF week into my weeks account will I be able to see it and do on-line searches with it?

I get the impression from reading some of the threads that 28k deposits are not visible in an RCI account so there for we cannot search with them on-line? Is this true? Is it true for other point deposits?

Also are specific Wyndham/FF reservations able to be deposited into RCI for better trading power? Why or why not would someone do this?

Thanks.

[Jya-Ning Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close Jya-Ning]

Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it. Another RCI question for you.

If I deposit a FF week into my weeks account will I be able to see it and do on-line searches with it?

There are 2 different types RCI week deposit, one allows you to do on-line seach which FF has to provide an actual week. One is just a bookkeep number, not a real week which RCI will not allow you to do on-line search

I get the impression from reading some of the threads that 28k deposits are not visible in an RCI account so there for we cannot search with them on-line? Is this true? Is it true for other point deposits?
Since on-line seachable week has to be real week, and there is not many stdio in that range, so it is very hard to get. Majority of the FF searchable week are in 1 BD since they have most inventory there

Also are specific Wyndham/FF reservations able to be deposited into RCI for better trading power? Why or why not would someone do this?
No, Wyndham will not allow it unless it is not from FSP system. ANd RCI will not take it

Thanks.

Jya-Ning

[4ARedOctober Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close 4ARedOctober]

I thought I read somewhere that the RCI account that is linked to Wyndham has a search first feature...is this true?

[mshatty Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close mshatty]

I thought I read somewhere that the RCI account that is linked to Wyndham has a search first feature...is this true?

Yes. You can search for availability before finalizing a deposit. When you do a search first request with RCI, RCI will immediately search the availability of your request. If it's available, the Exchange Counselor will finalize the deposit and confirm your request. If it is not available, then the Exchange Counselor will advise of the probability of yoru future confirmation so you can decide whether or not to proceed with your deposit. If you choose not to deposit, you have 48 hours to cancel your Search First requires and have your points returned to your FSP account.

If you don't cancel, or if you "hold" an exchange, the deposit is final and the points are deducted from your FSP account.

[4ARedOctober Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close 4ARedOctober]

RCI/II Deposit Form
Worldwide External Exchange is a great way to experience resort destinations that are not available in the FairShare Plus Resort Collection. It is also one of the best ways to extend the usage of your points for future travel.

Checking Availability for Your Exchange
To check availability before you make a deposit, you may contact one of our Vacation Planning Counselors at 1-800-251-8736 prompt 1, 1.

If you wish to check availability online at RCI.com, you should request your deposit first and follow the instructions below. Please note that deposits are FINAL transactions and may not be refunded.

Requesting Your Deposit
To make a Worldwide External Exchange, you will need to use your points to deposit a week into your Worldwide Exchange Company. In exchange, you will receive a deposit to use towards confirming full weeks stays with your exchange company for up to 2 years from the date of deposit. Please use the RCI / II Deposit Form below to request a deposit into your Worldwide Exchange Company.

You may request a deposit online by completing the RCI / II Deposit Form. Please note the following:

Worldwide External Exchange Deposits are FINAL transactions and may not be refunded.

Requests to deposit your current Use Year Points need to be submitted prior to 6:00 p.m. E.S.T on the last day of their Use Year.

A separate form needs to be submitted for each individual deposit.

To make a deposit using this form, you need to have the appropriate amount of Housekeeping Credits, Points, and a Reservation Transaction available in your account.

RCI Members Only. You may check the box below to request a deposit that can be viewed on RCI.com. This option is subject to availability and requested deposit may not be available. To guarantee a deposit of the requested season and unit type, you should leave the box unchecked.


If you need additional Points, Housekeeping Credits, or a Reservation Transaction to complete a deposit, or for immediate assistance, please call one of our Vacation Planning Counselors at 1-800-251-8736 prompt 1, 1.

If you have questions regarding requests that you have previously submitted, please send an e-mail to us. View Worldwide External Exchange Frequently Asked Questions for more information.

[4ARedOctober Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close 4ARedOctober]

Is there a time limit (after becoming an owner) on requesting prepaid RCI member fees refund from Wyndham?

Does Wyndham's RCI membership extend out to the maximum trading date or only one year ahead?

Is there any downside to getting the refund and not leaving it in my RCI account?

One downside I see is if I sell my Wyndham points then I will not longer have them paying the RCI membership in the future and my cheap paid ahead RCI membership will be gone and I will have to be pay with today's dollars.

One upside is that I won't have to wait to use up my RCI membership if I no longer want RCI. But I still do really well with RCI but who knows how long that will last.

Will I make out better with my SA refund due to currency conversion issues? I bought RCI membership via my SA purchase when the dollar was strong. I paid in SA Rand. Now if Wyndham takes into account the SA Rand amount and then converts it to US dollars then I will get a better return. How do they determine all of this?

[Jya-Ning Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close Jya-Ning]

I believe the member fee refund is prorate. So if you wait till the end of your paid RCI membership period, you will not get any refund.

If later you decide to sell FF, you can always buy another TS that has prepaid RCI membership. Or you can always find RCI selling X year special.

Some search VEP may tie to the account first 4 digit, which may affect your search result or LC, EV search result. But in theory, they should change that.

Jya-Ning

Don't know about RAND conversion