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    Judge concludes RCI Class Action - Approves Settlement Agreement

    The November 30th Fairness Hearing in Trenton lasted approximately 2 1/2 hours. The Attorney for RCI, David Sager, spoke first and explained recent changes it had offered in the Settlement Agreement and reiterated why it was a good arrangement for the Class Members. The Attorney for the Plaintiff, Janelle Welling, supported Mr. Sager. Several objectors spoke and voiced their concerns about the settlement. It seemed that the Judge may have already made up his mind because he allowed only 5 minutes for each Attorney and 2 minutes for the non-attorneys to present their arguments. He then deliberated for 15 minutes before announcing his decision to approve. He also approved fees for the Plaintiffs Attorneys in the amount of $1.7 million plus $75,000 in expenses.

    The final settlement will improve the management of inventory and the timing of rentals, but it does serve to ratify RCI's right to rent owner deposited weeks. The original Objectors, Susan Collins, Caroline Lindholm and Shep Altshuler had done some heavy lifting over the past four months and had succeeded in overturning the original Notice sent out by RCI as well as putting pressure on the Attorneys that resulted in some improvement in the settlement terms. The Settlement Agreement will be in force for three years and although many objectors felt that any programmatic changes should be permanent, the judge said that three years was sufficient time to give the Class Members a fair opportunity to see how the new terms worked. He said that if there were legitimate complaints, the Members could reopen their Complaint.

    Unresolved issues. The Attorneys for both sides had filed papers arguing that Consumer Protection violations that were mentioned in the Complaint originally filed by the Plaintiffs Attorneys should be addressed by other Federal and state agencies and not by the Court. The judge was not concerned with misrepresentations by RCI Vacation Guides, the lack of disclosure about RCI's aggressive low cost rental programs during sales presentations or the fact that the Second Notice was flawed as to quality and format and failed to mention the existence of the Points Class Action.

    In addition to the Weeks and Points Class Action, there is another Class Action against RCI that is pending in the same court before the same judge. You are probably now first learning about that lawsuit. The Complaint states, "1. Resort Condominiums International, LLC ("RCI" or "the Defendant"), through its affiliate Lifestyle Holiday Vacation Club ("LHVC"), promises an easy-to-access resort experience to its members through its enormous network of hotels and condominiums located throughout the world. 2. In reality, LHVC, which is overseen and controlled by the Defendant, has lured thousands of individuals into purchasing timeshares by lying outright about the quality and, more, the nature of services provided. In so doing, the Defendant has defrauded Crete (the Plaintiff) and others ("the Class" or "Class Members"), fraudulently causing them each to spend often tens of thousands of dollars on timeshares worth little more than the paper their contracts are printed on. RCI, through its affiliate LHVC, provides services that are not only grossly deficient and substandard in almost every aspect, but are simply not what it promises. Plaintiff is forced to sue RCI to stop its theft and obtain some restitution for herself and Class Members."

    If there is, in fact, a pattern of misconduct by RCI as claimed in these lawsuits, we should not feel confident that this Court will resolve them.

  • #2
    So it would seem as if the removal of deposits from the exchange pool and aggressive rental of choice deposits after 30 days will continue?
    Pat
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    • #3
      The real problem was the treachery of the backstabbing weasel who MISrepresented the plaintiff class. By joining forces with RCI, she virtually assured the judge would approve this sellout in spite of the valiant efforts by the objectors and their attorney. She lot a bit more than 30 pieces of silver; $1.75 million, which was the only thing that appeared to motivate her. The interests of her clients were apparently nowhere in her mind. This sellout of an attorney did not even bother to do discovery before colluding with RCI in selling her clients down the river. She should have ethics complaints filed against her for the manner in which she mishandled this case.

      This case illlustrates the scam nature of too many class action lawsuits and the attorneys who handle them. They are only out for a payday for themselves, and could care less about their clients. A much better bet would have been a state AG's consumer protection suit. Under many state consumer protection laws, state AG's have powerful tools availible to them, such as being able to take discovery even before filing a case, and since they don't put any payments into their personal pockets, there is no temptation to sell out for money.

      There needs to be reform of attorney fees for class action cases. Hours and expenses should only be fully compensated when a court finds that the outcome provides a lasting and substantial change in the acts and practices of the defendant that were complained of. Otherwise there should be a percentage of the total value of the trinkets that would be an upper limit of attorney fees, say 20% of such value for cases settled prior to discovery. That would stop the motivation for rotten deals to put money in the pocket of the plaintiffs attorney in return for a phony solution as happened here.

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      • #4
        I now declare it open season on all objectors, however they have gone about objecting.
        RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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        • #5
          It serves to ratify RCI's right to RENT owners deposited weeks.

          The solution. STOP GIVING THEM OUR WEEKS! CANCEL YOUR MEMBERSHIP! Only when OWNERS make their feeling felt will RCI change it's ways.

          Like I said, I mailed in my objection a long time ago. I stopped paying RCI and I stopped using them as an option for our HGVC week. I'm also going to start pressing the two HOA's at resorts we own that affiliate with RCI to change that affiliation.

          Until RCI's rental pool dries up, they'll keep right on renting weeks. Dry up that rental pool and maybe they'll realize that the only way they can sustain their business is to work the exchange side FIRST and then the rental side with what's left over.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by dougp26364
            The solution.
            Another possibility . . . get the affiliates, especially the big ones like Bluegreen, HGVC, Disney, etc., to see how detrimental it is to their owners, to them, and to their future operations, for RCI to be a rental company.

            If TS owners cannot get comparable exchanges for their deposits, the industry has a problem they, not the TS owners, need to address.

            RCI has always been concerned about themselves first, the affiliates second, and individual subscribers last.
            RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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            • #7
              to summarize - this played out almost exactly as many of us predicted it would when the suit was filed.
              “Maybe you shouldn't dress like that.”

              “This is a blouse and skirt. I don't know what you're talking about.”

              “You shouldn't wear that body.”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Carolinian
                .... She should have ethics complaints filed against her for the manner in which she mishandled this case.

                Now that the lawsuit is over,why don't you file the complaint as you've consistently posted the above comments. You're a lawyer and know the system.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dougp26364
                  It serves to ratify RCI's right to RENT owners deposited weeks.

                  The solution. STOP GIVING THEM OUR WEEKS! CANCEL YOUR MEMBERSHIP! Only when OWNERS make their feeling felt will RCI change it's ways.

                  Like I said, I mailed in my objection a long time ago. I stopped paying RCI and I stopped using them as an option for our HGVC week. I'm also going to start pressing the two HOA's at resorts we own that affiliate with RCI to change that affiliation.

                  Until RCI's rental pool dries up, they'll keep right on renting weeks. Dry up that rental pool and maybe they'll realize that the only way they can sustain their business is to work the exchange side FIRST and then the rental side with what's left over.
                  That was always the solution. What else did you expect? This Class Action lawsuit was mostly a waste of time.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by djyamyam View Post
                    Now that the lawsuit is over,why don't you file the complaint as you've consistently posted the above comments. You're a lawyer and know the system.
                    Because he knows it's a waste of time, too.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by T. R. Oglodyte
                      to summarize - this played out almost exactly as many of us predicted it would when the suit was filed.
                      Yeah, the wrong tactic to begin with. It got exactly the opposite result it sought. We couldn't say that until now.
                      RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JLB
                        Yeah, the wrong tactic to begin with. It got exactly the opposite result it sought. We couldn't say that until now.
                        I don't see how you can say it got the opposite result it sought. From the very beginning many of us said the goal of the law suit was fee recovery by the plaintiffs lawyers. The attorneys were able to conclude the lawsuit with over $1 million in fees and without needing to even do discovery.

                        It seems to me that the lawsuit achieved its objectives admirably.
                        “Maybe you shouldn't dress like that.”

                        “This is a blouse and skirt. I don't know what you're talking about.”

                        “You shouldn't wear that body.”

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. R. Oglodyte View Post
                          I don't see how you can say it got the opposite result it sought.
                          I understand your point & I know you understand mine . . . the intention being to stop rentals and the outcome being to legitimize and escalate the practice.
                          RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JLB View Post
                            I understand your point & I know you understand mine . . . the intention being to stop rentals and the outcome being to legitimize and escalate the practice.
                            I know that the stated intent was to stop rentals. Never for one moment did I (or several others) ever believe that malarkey. I thought that from the very beginning the real intent was for the plaintiffs attorneys to score a large fee, and that the suit would settle at the point that appeared the most favorable for the attorneys to settle.

                            Jim - you of all people should have understood that the probability of entering the legal process obtaining and obtaining justice and equity is on a par with the likelihood of eating in a Mexican restaurant and not getting gas.

                            I'm not saying it doesn't happen, and if you pick your way carefully you might get the result you want. But you most definitely are fighting the odds all the way.
                            “Maybe you shouldn't dress like that.”

                            “This is a blouse and skirt. I don't know what you're talking about.”

                            “You shouldn't wear that body.”

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by T. R. Oglodyte View Post
                              Jim - you of all people should have understood that the probability of entering the legal process obtaining and obtaining justice and equity is on a par with the likelihood of eating in a Mexican restaurant and not getting gas.
                              I'm sorry . . . did I say I am surprised by the outcome? Did I ever say I expected something good to come of it?

                              I do appreciate you acknowledging my experience in the real world's legal process.
                              RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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