RCI still down this AM!!

[Pat H Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pat H]

RCI always closes down the website for a long weekend in April. They have been doing this for many years. It's nothing new. I think they also do one in Oct.

I believe your words would have applied equally to the website enhancement of 5/30/09, and look what that did.

My words, too.

No, they wouldn't have since the 5/30 enhancement was not part of their normal scheduled maintenance.

[djyamyam Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close djyamyam]

As of 4:13 CST, RCI is back up. Anyone see anything major?

No differences. Some stuff that was on hold that would have normally released after the 24 hour period was still held. This also happened last time it was down for extended maintenance. I'm sure it'll go back to normal later tonight.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

As someone who uses statistics for my research on a daily basis, I am sure that you do not know that "everyone's" big number was lower after 5/30. Yes, those of us who are whining and complaining on these boards have lower big numbers, but that's probably because we are a biased sample. We are the ones who bragged in the past about getting better quality weeks than those we deposited. That was a totally unsustainable situation.

If someone with a high quality week, say Manhattan Club (almost any time of the year), also reports that their big number reduced after 5/30 - or 30/5 as the rest of the world writes it - then I would say that yes there is an issue.

I posit as an alternative explanation that those with low quality weeks have seen a decrease, and those with high quality weeks have seen an increase and have not been reporting it for fear of a "correction". Admittedly, this theory is not thought through to the extent that other contrived and conspiratorial theories have, but still it may have merit.

I'm guilty. I should have said seems, or no one hanging out with us is seeing what they use to.

I am basing my comments on the last 11 years, since 1999 when I first involved myself in trading power tests and got to know those online who have the best traders. None of them are reporting big numbers, 170K-ish, like pre-5/30.

There, better?

Now. Why do you think that is?

Because only Manhattan Club-types can?

Is that who gets SW FL in January now? If so, they will likely be disappointed staying in motels that were old 30 years ago when they were converted to timeshares.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

No, they wouldn't have since the 5/30 enhancement was not part of their normal scheduled maintenance.

Yah, fur shur, it was a special enhancement.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

yesterday my big number was 146K-ish.

[143,405]

But the only numbers that matter to us, stuff where and when we want it, have not changed.

[Glitter Brunello Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Glitter Brunello]

As of 4:13 CST, RCI is back up. Anyone see anything major?

Did they always have the "Inside RCI" tab on the home page with the explanation about trading power? I thought I would see some magical "trading power" numbers there based on some rumours floating around, but instead it is just a very basic explanation. There is a poll asking whether the user finds the information helpful....

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Manhattan Club is a poor example. Bootleg told us that it really took a hit in trading power back when the developer stupidly started forcing owners to go through bulkbanking. Allen House in central London would be a better example. They do not bulkbank. And there was an Allen House owner OY would said that Allen House, too, took a hit in trading power on 5/30.

When there are lots of reports of trading power hits but none of trading power gains among tiger traders, that tells you something. When nobody sees the big numbers that were out there before, that is clearly an indicator that RCI has removed inventory from the system. There is absolutely no evidence for your theory at all.

When I look at resort areas where RCI's own tables published in the European version of their directory show low supply relative to high demand all 12 months of the year and they have taken a big hit in trading power, that is pretty good evidence of hanky-panky by RCI.

As someone who uses statistics for my research on a daily basis, I am sure that you do not know that "everyone's" big number was lower after 5/30. Yes, those of us who are whining and complaining on these boards have lower big numbers, but that's probably because we are a biased sample. We are the ones who bragged in the past about getting better quality weeks than those we deposited. That was a totally unsustainable situation.

If someone with a high quality week, say Manhattan Club (almost any time of the year), also reports that their big number reduced after 5/30 - or 30/5 as the rest of the world writes it - then I would say that yes there is an issue.

I posit as an alternative explanation that those with low quality weeks have seen a decrease, and those with high quality weeks have seen an increase and have not been reporting it for fear of a "correction". Admittedly, this theory is not thought through to the extent that other contrived and conspiratorial theories have, but still it may have merit.

[alanmj Banned Find all posts View Profile Close alanmj]

Manhattan Club is a poor example. Bootleg told us that it really took a hit in trading power back when the developer stupidly started forcing owners to go through bulkbanking. Allen House in central London would be a better example. They do not bulkbank. And there was an Allen House owner OY would said that Allen House, too, took a hit in trading power on 5/30.

When there are lots of reports of trading power hits but none of trading power gains among tiger traders, that tells you something. When nobody sees the big numbers that were out there before, that is clearly an indicator that RCI has removed inventory from the system. There is absolutely no evidence for your theory at all.

When I look at resort areas where RCI's own tables published in the European version of their directory show low supply relative to high demand all 12 months of the year and they have taken a big hit in trading power, that is pretty good evidence of hanky-panky by RCI.

Perhaps you are right about Manhatten Club's reduced trading power, but it still trades far better than Mugwump Swamp weeks that most people on TUG and TS4MS - or at least the vocal ones - seem to think should get them into Manhatten Club and SW Florida during prime time.

About those with tiger traders who you say also report a trading hit on 5/30, you will perhaps understand that someone who is a constant anti-RCI conspiracy theorist ranter like yourself represents a highly biased third party. So I will hold off on judgement until I hear directly first-hand from those who own the tiger weeks. We just though don't seem to have that many tiger week owners vocal on TUG or TS4MS - perhaps because they are happy with their choices and see no need to become involved.

Having said all that, most likely you and JLB and others are all correct that somehow 30,000 weeks went missing on 5/30 from the RCI trading system. Given though the oft experienced absolutely pathetic web system, it would not surprise me at all if even RCI has no idea what happened and is as puzzled as the rest of us.

I must say that for the areas that interest me - the Caribbean in Dec and April/May and the Alps in skiing season - I have seen no significant drop in availability.