Weeks Enhancements

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

That's what it costs *you*, because you are comparing it to a dog week with insufficient demand in the face of abundant supply that no one else wants. Someone depositing a week with a better position on the supply/demand curve would be paying significantly less. The only difference between today and last Thursday is: now you know the real value of that flea-bitten mutt to RCI.

Yes, I know, "20 years". Most dogs have to be put down well before they hit 20. The time has come for yours, too. I know it's hard, but it's time to let that week go.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Jim, I am not trying to insult you.

The resort that you are using to try and exchange is obviously not as desirable to exchangers as it was 20 years ago - a lot happens in terms of where and how people want to vacation and what is available in the area comes into play - and your ownership just does not have what people want anymore.

It is unfortunate for you but it is what it is.

I don't buy that. If a resort were slowing going down, it's trading power would decline much more gradually, not abruptly by a huge amount right when RCI imposes changes. This is hardly the only case of RCI moving the goalposts with their new numbers. They claimed they were not changing the trading power but they were telling a whopper.

[GrayFal Silver Contributor and supermoderator Find all posts View Profile Close GrayFal]

I don't buy that. If a resort were slowing going down, it's trading power would decline much more gradually, not abruptly by a huge amount right when RCI imposes changes. This is hardly the only case of RCI moving the goalposts with their new numbers. They claimed they were not changing the trading power but they were telling a whopper.

I believe that JLB has been complaining about diminished trade power for 5+ years??? This is not a sudden decline.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

I believe that JLB has been complaining about diminished trade power for 5+ years??? This is not a sudden decline.

But it still pulled SW Fla. Now it takes 4 of those weeks to do so. That IS dramatic. There are other reports OY of people who have been regularly making an even trade and now would have to use two weeks to make the same trade, or who have looked up the values of even trades they have made recently and if they did them again would have to cough up many extra points lite. RCI had definitely played around with values and they are telling a whopper when they claim not to have. But they also told similar lies in the past when they monkeyed with trading power, so that is really nothing new.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

That's what it costs *you*, because you are comparing it to a dog week with insufficient demand in the face of abundant supply that no one else wants. Someone depositing a week with a better position on the supply/demand curve would be paying significantly less. The only difference between today and last Thursday is: now you know the real value of that flea-bitten mutt to RCI.

Yes, I know, "20 years". Most dogs have to be put down well before they hit 20. The time has come for yours, too. I know it's hard, but it's time to let that week go.

Surely with all that has now come out, you surely don't swallow RCI's contentions hook, line, and sinker any more do you?

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

For the purpose of this discussion I am not using the much-maligned dog week studio deposits at Slimey Slough that a few seem to have turned on.

(They are not, and never were, that bad.)

Actually, the picture is not as bleak using them. It would only take two of them.

(I said that way back in Post 39, but some a youse musta missed that.)

The more I looked and found, the worse it got.

I am using much-ballyhooed 2-bedroom Gold Crowns at an RCI "flagship" resort in a popular RCI resort area, something the industry has made Hundreds of Millions of dollars off of. . . And they still are.

So, y'all (a couple of you) are as much as saying, "That is/was all a lie, one that is still being told."

But, should it really matter what the deposits are?

C'mon folks, $2758 for one exchange . . . to a crappy studio . . . you're not serious . . . are you?

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

It's as if the new system targeted the only thing we want. Other stuff is almost fair, maybe totally fair, like stuff short-term to the same area. If I have it figured out right, we can get two or three weeks to Gold Crowns on the beach (Eagles Nest, Surf Club, Seawatch on the Beach) in SW FL for the next two months . . . with one Slimey Slough deposit.

What I wanted to see in the enhancement is if we could get something we have not been able to get since the 5/30/09 enhancement that we had been able to get for the prior 20 years, and for a fair additional price. I was open to that. I was open to giving a couple deposits (which we still can using Slimey Slough).

I don't think I am unreasonable in that.

I am not open to getting worse than what we had already been getting for 20 years . . . for $2758.

&, almost unbelievably, all that opened up that we had not already been seeing, is that one crappy studio. There are more than 50 RCI resorts in that area. That tells me a lot about owners in that area bailing from RCI.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

In other news, my new driver arrived today, and it is excellent, not a mark on it.



It was $112, delivered, on eBay.

Through RCI, it probably would have cost four deposits, plus fees.

[bellesgirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bellesgirl]

The only difference between today and last Thursday is: now you know the real value of that flea-bitten mutt to RCI.

I saw 144K last Thursday (I printed it) and I saw 144K this morning. Are they exactly the same resorts? - how would I know? But I have not seen any significant change, and I am very pleased that now I can get 2 or 3 trades for 1 deposit, if I so choose.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

What GC week do you have that is only worth 8 points? It must be a very late deposit. My lowest week is valued at 21 and it goes up from there.

If I'm not mistaken, & if I used their convoluted system correctly, 8 is the MAX trading power, and I believe I used a 2012 week.

I could be wrong . . . and if it was simpler (like just showing the values alongside each deposit choice) . . . there would be less chance that I would be wrong.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I saw 144K last Thursday (I printed it) and I saw 144K this morning. Are they exactly the same resorts? - how would I know? But I have not seen any significant change, and I am very pleased that now I can get 2 or 3 trades for 1 deposit, if I so choose.

I had that same reaction this morning, then I found where to open a search showing the stuff we cannot get with any one deposit.

I'd have to check my log, but I'm pretty sure I can see more in a regular search than before the enhancement.

Yeah:

Before: All Deposits [124,341]
After: All Deposits [132,293]

I was expecting the enhancement to be simpler, that you would just search as normal and it would show you two figures, one being what you could get with a deposit and one being being what you have to give more for.

Say, something like 135000/144000.

Then, you could check to see what more the extra 9000 would take.

That would be the simplest way of showing what you can get relative to everything that is available, the best way to show relative trading power. That is what I thought was coming.

It's obvious they didn't consult the IAB.

[bellesgirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bellesgirl]

Could it be more intuitive? - certainly. But the default should be - "what can I get for what I own?". Otherwise it is very misleading. Forcing people to take the extra step to find exchanges that they would not normally qualify is appropriate. That way they are not automatically presented with the total universe and disappointed to find that they do not qualify for the dream week they just found.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

they are not automatically presented with the total universe and disappointed to find that they do not qualify for the dream week they just found.

In that case, one of us does not understand the meaning of disclosure.

Funny you should bring up not wanting people to be disappointed. That's the best one I've heard today.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

There's a lot to take in here, & I realize I am not as sharp as some of you, but if you are saying there are some deposits with a value of 60, or whatever, why would the only available deposit in a highly demanded area and timeframe only take 29 to get?

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One thing more:

This totally screws up the Ongoing Search, unless they change it. The best trader deposit is 21 and it appears to take 29 to get a crappy studio unit in the search target.

It will take combined deposits to get a match and the Ongoing Search is tied to an individual deposit. It will take something like an "All Deposits" Ongoing Search, then have you select the deposits you want to use when you get a match.

(Tongue-in cheek), then if I deposit 12 weeks, maybe we can get a match. (insert wry smilie here)

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

Surely with all that has now come out, you surely don't swallow RCI's contentions hook, line, and sinker any more do you?

My deposits see basically the same things today that they did on Thursday. As far as I can tell, nothing has changed.

Others may have different experiences.

In any event: we all knew that a "2BR Gold Crown" doesn't mean diddly *or* squat. This just demonstrates how much less than diddly squat it means. No one who even has a vague sense for how this all works should be surprised that some "2BR Gold Crown" weeks aren't worth the fees they incur.