How Many Came Out Ahead, & Vice Versa?

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Too late.

If you came out ahead on some, select that, since you do not have to give RCI the weeks you came out behind on.

Which opens up another point, I think, that through a process of choice/elimination/economics, over time, low TPU weeks will not be given to RCI, leaving only high TPU deposits. Think that one through.

Not necessarily. No exchange company gets my summer OBX week (mid to upper 40s points lite, depending on if 2011 or 2012) which we either use or rent. Lately since I have been working in Europe, it has mostly been renting. My summer weeks in southern England will now be split between SFX and DAE due to RCI underpointing the UK. The only ones I might give RCI are my South Aftican weeks, which although whacked in value like most if not all of SA, can still get value comparable to the past IF I can get in early and get one of the handful of flexi weeks that still have trading power comparable to what all red weeks used to have. I will have to get in early and be very insistent on what weeks I want.

[bellesgirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bellesgirl]

Since you like to go to the same place every year at the same time, why don't you buy a timeshare week or 2 (or a full ownership condo for that matter) there?

I rarely ever want to go the same place 2x, much less every year. But you fit that description often mentioned - "buy where you want to vacation" - so perfectly.

I was going to say the same thing. We like to go to PV every Jan/Feb so we bought a TS there. We also like to try other places so we use our other weeks for exchanging. If you always go to the same place, sell what you own now and buy where you want to vacation.

[Bourne Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bourne]

For a 10 yr old member...

Got me on that one...:

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I was going to say the same thing. We like to go to PV every Jan/Feb so we bought a TS there. We also like to try other places so we use our other weeks for exchanging. If you always go to the same place, sell what you own now and buy where you want to vacation.

We like where we live (best).

So . . .

Are you offering to buy our six TS weeks?

C'mon, now, back up your advice if you believe it.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Since some here have complimented me (in a very round-about way ) over my ability to go with the flow and maximize whatever is sent my way RCI-wise (well, not exactly your words ), having had some time to evaluate what has been done to further adulterate their system, I intend to do exactly that, maximize.

I do not intend to attack the strength of the defense, but, rather, to take advantage of it's weaknesses.

It most likely will not involve them getting more money from us, and will most likely mean them getting less from us with which to make money off of others.

I fully expect that when large numbers start doing what I am going to do, RCI will change things again.

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

The cookie crumbles multiple ways...$375 for a 2br Disney...

I agree. I can see DVC now. Before I couldn't so I'm not complaining yet. Well maybe a little but still if I want it, it's there for the pickin'.

But you can get that exchange.................... You need to adjust to the new game.

RCI, or the vast majority of companies, doesn't give a squat about how long you've been a member, customer, etc. That's the way it is today.

............ moan over the good old days and do nothing to help oneself deal with the reality of today.

America has changed and RCI has changed right along with it. Why are you so surprised Jim that you can't do what you could do 20 years ago? It's not gonna get any better. Just buy HGVC in SW FL and life will be good again.
FWIW, I just got a ressie for Marco at Charter club and RCI didn't make a dime off of the reservation. So there are alternatives but YOU gotta change. Life's just way too short to keep on and on about the same thing.
Now is bargain time to get what you want where you want it. What are you waiting for? Boca can even get you enough BG points to live there year round and at a good price right now.

Since you like to go to the same place every year at the same time, why don't you buy a timeshare week or 2 (or a full ownership condo for that matter) there?

But you fit that description often mentioned - "buy where you want to vacation" - so perfectly.

So true. If you buy in SW Fl then you will definetely be happier. That's why I bought my beach weeks to use, not exchange mugwump swamp for prime beach weeks. Ain't gonna happen anymore so dump those puppies on ebay and pick up something else like this one to get you started. .

Week 1, Clearwater beach. No RCI and only $450 MFs.
ISLANDER REDINGTON BEACH CLEARWATER FLORIDA TIMESHARE - eBay (item 270673804922 end time Dec-09-10 18:09:35 PST)

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

To each their own.

We don't like Orlando at all, even though that's where it started for us, and nothing north of Siesta Key, or, maybe Longboat Key/Holmes Beach/Bradenton Beach/Anna Maria.

Really, nothing north of Manasota Key . . . I keep compromising north every year. Depends on winter or summer.

What one likes or wants is not a permanent thing, not a sensible reason for further ongoing comittment in something that cannot be relied on.

We'll make it work. There's ways.

It took my buddy all of 15 minutes looking at the new program to make the same decision I have. For those who have "lost", the decision is pretty easy, and those who "won" will eventually suffer because of it.

Look for a major overhaul in a couple of years, but, if you "won", enjoy it while you can. Carpe diem.
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As for who came out ahead or behind (this time), it's still about 50/50. If each time they enhance, they screw over half their customers, well, figure it out.

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

We don't like Orlando at all, even though that's where it started for us.

As for who came out ahead or behind (this time), it's still about 50/50. If each time they enhance, they screw over half their customers, well, figure it out.

So it all started at the Mouse's House?

And as for screwing over half their customers, it appears that half have already left for greener pastures like the mini's. So the rest of us that remain have a choice to make. We can try to figure out how to play the game with the new rules or join another team. I'm not quite ready to walk away just yet since I'm still getting good value from playing on their team.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

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[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

So it all started at the Mouse's House?

And as for screwing over half their customers, it appears that half have already left for greener pastures like the mini's. So the rest of us that remain have a choice to make. We can try to figure out how to play the game with the new rules or join another team. I'm not quite ready to walk away just yet since I'm still getting good value from playing on their team.

Trading only within minis is only a solution if you have a very limited sphere in which you want to travel because they are so, well, ''mini''. The choices are just too narrow, and often not places that are at the top of my list to travel to.
For me, the mini with the most places I would find actually appealing would be the granddaddy of them all, the original mini-system, Hapimag. But Hapimag would be useless for a Caribbean vacation or an occaisional week back in the states.

A mix of independent exchange companies seems the best bet. I might also buy an II resort, as well. II, and heck about any exchange company, is much more stable than RCI. One never knows what stunt RCI is going to pull next.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

One never knows what stunt RCI is going to pull next.

Count on a major one at the expiration of the settlement agreement, 2012.

[Bourne Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bourne]

I might also buy an II resort, as well. II, and heck about any exchange company, is much more stable than RCI. One never knows what stunt RCI is going to pull next.

FWIV,

There is a Foxrun 15 available in Bargain deals on the dark side. With closing and 2011 paid.

[dvcforus Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dvcforus]

I have only deposited one of my 5 timeshares with RCI and thankfully it is also affiliated with II. After seeing the points they gave me for a 2BR summer near a national park that I have used to get 2BRs at DVC BCV, I will be trading through II. I much prefer II and my trades into Westin. Most of RCI is frankly trash to me. I think this may shoot RCI even more in the foot especially when my timeshares are all affiliated with II as well.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Now that I think about it, almost everyone came out behind, everyone but the very Top Dog, cuz everyone else has to give up more than one deposit for something.

Am I wrong, or did our Trading Power Tests, Sightings, Ex Ops, and sharing of information with each other over the last 15 years, not demonstrate that a fairly sizeable number of "Top Traders" could get everything? Has that group not now been greatly diminshed?

& so many, about 50%, appear to be saying they have to give up more than one deposit for stuff they useta get for one, and over a long period of time, year after year. To be fair, to not devalue large numbers of deposits in one fell swoop, would it not have been better, fairer, to require more than one deposit only for stuff better than what you were already getting with one?

That is not what they did.

Part of the Settlement Agreement is to provide historical data, past trades, and Trading Power information as to what it took to get them. This seems to go against that, but that information would confirm what I am pointing out.

If it looks like a duck. If it quacks like a dcuk . . . Looks and sounds like cryptic (and not too cryptic at that) price-gouging to me.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

If you have not yet voted, I would like to suggest you do #6 in this thread:

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...-enhanced.html

Look at your exchange history and confirmed exchanges and see if there are any that you have done with one deposit that no longer can be done with that same (one) deposit.

For us that was very revealing. All of them (16 I believe) now require more than one, m/l doubling our price of doing what we've been doing.