How Many Came Out Ahead, & Vice Versa?

[joycapecod Silver Contributor Find all posts View Profile Close joycapecod]

On some I came out ahead, but those are summer Ireland and summer Cape Cod (Ireland 3 bedroom unit, Cape Cod week 27 on beach P'town) but I expected this. On some I lost (shoulder season 3 bedroom Gulf Coast). Most of what I want is smaller units and early summer, before the kidlets are out of school, so where I have 45 TPU I may only need 26 TPU. before it would have taken the entire deposit.

Joy

[jlwquilter Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jlwquilter]

So far I am ahead. Exchanges I made way back I was able to re-exchange and have credits left over... quite a few credits. Enough for 2-3 future exchanges, depending on where, when, etc.

I also have a few exchanges that are pretty much even or would maybe take a few more credits. I don't know for sure as there's no similar current exchanges available so I don't know their exact price.

I plan on using the new system to its fullest. I will learn it and use it. I will make changes to what I have done in the past to be able to do the best for the least cost. That may mean selling or giving away resorts I have owned "forever" and buying new resorts that are more valued in this new system, although I am already positioned darn good well as I used advice gathered on this board and OY before I bought.

I respectfully submit that some people need to stop pining for the past and decide that if they want to get what they got in the past they will need to tailor their actions to the present. The fact is, and it is a fact, you can get what you want, if it's available, with one deposit and at a very reasonable cost (ie: what you've been paying the past X years). It's just not the deposit you currently own.

It's a new game. You can 1) get out of the game and leave the stadium or 2) get out of the game and stay in the bleachers and tell your glory day stories or 3) stay in the game and learn and use the new rules.. and win. We all have the same choice to make.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Based on the poll, thusfar, which is far from conclusive, 1/2 would feel your way and 1/2 would feel my way.

FWIW, all of this came about because of the Classaction suit.

Perhaps it is someone's way of saying, "Take this."

[Laurie Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Laurie]

On some I came out ahead ... On some I lost

Me too - poll should have a third category for Won some, lost some.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Me too - poll should have a third category for Won some, lost some.

Too late.

If you came out ahead on some, select that, since you do not have to give RCI the weeks you came out behind on.

Which opens up another point, I think, that through a process of choice/elimination/economics, over time, low TPU weeks will not be given to RCI, leaving only high TPU deposits. Think that one through.

[BocaBum99 Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close BocaBum99]

Based on the poll, thusfar, which is far from conclusive, 1/2 would feel your way and 1/2 would feel my way.

FWIW, all of this came about because of the Classaction suit.

Perhaps it is someone's way of saying, "Take this."

I'd say that means that RCI has simply effected a redistribution of trading power. Given that you are an uber exchanger who learned the rules to get the best trade ups, you were one we would expect to lose trading power in a fairer system. Others, who were once screwed over by the process probably are making out better.

Is this good or fair? Neither. It just is. You take it, or you leave it. Or, long for the good old days.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Yeah, First Come First Served was not all that bad, and simple.

Is that the way your rental business works?

But, of course, with 1/2 the exchanges of 10 years ago, RCI is under the gun to come up with ways to get more from less.

Desparate?

I guess other companies need to look at their example of consumer-gouging.

Wait, they have, except for SW, bags no longer fly for free.

There were days when consumer protection had a meaning, and companies governed themselves accordingly.

Makes me wonder why Wastegate and RCI cannot get along.

[catwgirl Contributor - Bronze Find all posts View Profile Close catwgirl]

I won some and I lost some.

But let's face it--the big winner in all this is RCI. They are getting fees to combine my weeks that they have never gotten before. And since they give me change back, I will use that change to book a last minute exchange, thus giving them another exchange fee. And certainly I will never let my points expire. I will pay to combine them with newly deposited weeks to get another two years out of my "change." Thus ongoing combining fees, and neverending exchange fees.

We will have to see how this all plays out--but in the short term it is a win-win for RCI.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I appreciate human nature, the overwhelming compunction to gloat, but c'mon folks . . . $2800 for one exchange . . . for a 20-year member!!

Really!?

[Bourne Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bourne]

The cookie crumbles multiple ways...$375 for a 2br Disney...

[Bourne Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bourne]

The cookie crumbles multiple ways...$375 for a 2br Disney...

For a 10 yr old member...

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

For a 10 yr old member...

I did not know they did business with kids.

[jlwquilter Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jlwquilter]

I appreciate human nature, the overwhelming compunction to gloat, but c'mon folks . . . $2800 for one exchange . . . for a 20-year member!!

Really!?

But you can get that exchange for less than $2800. Just not with your current portfolio. You need to adjust to the new game.

RCI, or the vast majority of companies, doesn't give a squat about how long you've been a member, customer, etc. That's the way it is today.

There's certainly a part of human nature that likes to gloat. It matches up nicely with the part that wants to sit and moan over the good old days and do nothing to help oneself deal with the reality of today.

[Laurie Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Laurie]

I appreciate human nature, the overwhelming compunction to gloat, but c'mon folks . . . $2800 for one exchange . . . for a 20-year member!!

Really!?

Since you like to go to the same place every year at the same time, why don't you buy a timeshare week or 2 (or a full ownership condo for that matter) there?

I rarely ever want to go the same place 2x, much less every year. But you fit that description often mentioned - "buy where you want to vacation" - so perfectly.

[Laurie Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Laurie]

Too late.

If you came out ahead on some, select that, since you do not have to give RCI the weeks you came out behind on.

When I say "Won some, lost some" I didn't mean that I won on some weeks owned and lost on others, but rather:

Some exchanges I want or have made recently would now require more than 1 deposit. Other exchanges I want or have made recently would now give change back. So neither category fits.

Or maybe that at the present moment, I seem to be in pretty much the same place as before, except I could be looking at an extra $99 combine fee to get the same # of weeks I could get before.

Which opens up another point, I think, that through a process of choice/elimination/economics, over time, low TPU weeks will not be given to RCI, leaving only high TPU deposits. Think that one through.

It could go both ways ... folks who were withholding because they couldn't get anything good (to them) will now add them up, at least some of the time, to get something better/more useful. But - only if the maintenance fees are low enough. I'd agree that for some folks, low TPU weeks with high mf's will stop going to RCI and will be given instead to a competitor with no trade power formula, like DAE.