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  • #16
    For the disoriented or reading-challenged:

    Subscribers

    2004 2,754,704
    2007 2,692,080
    2008 2,670,737
    2009 2,525,611
    2010 2,352,105


    Exchanges

    2004 2,112,006
    2007 1,735,993
    2008 1,526,995
    2009 1,351,693
    2010 1,211,892

    To pre-answer the obvious, I tried to pick enough years to lessen the effect of switching to Points. The number of subscribers not reducing all that much suggest that is the case.

    Carolinian's Chicken Little warnings of what (?), 10 years ago, that Weeks would be raped (or something close to that), appears to bear out.

    It's interesting that the number of exchanges has fallen more dramatically than the number of subscribers, 43% v. 15%.

    The number of exchanges per subscriber went from .77 to .52.

    The value of the lost/reduced exchanges at today's exchange fee is over $170,000,000!

    Anyone can conclude what anyone wants to conclude, and, for me, that is that those who have been saying that RCI has not been making subscriber-friendly decisions are not alone.
    RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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    • #17
      Originally posted by JLB
      The number of exchanges per subscriber went from .77 to .52.
      This is the interesting number to me...this year i will be making 3 exchanges with 2 deposits...It would be interesting to see if those that only exchange every other year also only deposit every other year, saving up two years deposits for one years exchange...or if they only deposit when they exchange...and how much these numbers have gone up since the changes to the RCI Weeks System, possibly back to the 2004 numbers

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      • #18
        I realize that these figures will be suspect unless I find the corresponding Points figures.

        I'll work on that when we get back from the beach.
        RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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        • #19
          wow - the number of exchanges dropped almost in half from 2004 to 2010. those are scary numbers for a business and represent almost $100M in lost exchange fees and another $60M in lost membership fees. that's a lot of dough!

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          • #20
            The numbers provide evidence of decreases in RCI's business, but the reason why is unknown. We can only speculate that there are a lot of people who dropped out and stopped exchanging for economic reasons, but there may be other factors such as displeasure with RCI (that would be me) and using alternate exchange companies as another. I had a lot of historical numbers, but they went out with a recent paperwork reduction campaign. It would be interesting to compare numbers with II's- tho the points system may make that difficult. It would also be nice to see how the little guys are doing.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by raycin View Post
              wow - the number of exchanges dropped almost in half from 2004 to 2010. those are scary numbers for a business and represent almost $100M in lost exchange fees and another $60M in lost membership fees. that's a lot of dough!
              $100 Million or $170 Million (post above), but who's keeping track?
              RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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              • #22
                Originally posted by JLB View Post
                I realize that these figures will be suspect unless I find the corresponding Points figures.

                I'll work on that when we get back from the beach.
                Lets keep it real....these numbers don't include almost half of their business, the points side

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                • #23
                  COMBINED STATEMENT OF KEY OPERATING STATISTICS
                  FoR THE Rci poiNTSt EXcHANGE pRocRAM
                  AS OF AND FOR THE YEAR ENDED DECEMBER 31 2004

                  Resorts 727
                  Members 523,517
                  Deposits 358,462
                  Exchanges 496,391
                  - - - - - -
                  COMBINED STATEMENT OF KEY OPERATING STATISTICS
                  FoR THE Rci poiNTSt EXcHANGE pRocRAM
                  AS OF AND FOR THE YEAR ENDED DECEMBER 31 2010

                  Number of timeshare properties, accommodations, or other facilities
                  eligible to participate in the Program
                  Resorts with current affiliation agreements 1,090

                  Number of fully paid members as of year end 1,481,790

                  Number of exchanges for which the Company has an obligation as to this
                  Program as of year end to provide in a subsequent period to a member
                  who has RCI POINTS@ that can be used in a subsequent year 815,788

                  Number of exchanges confirmed during the year 759,009

                  Exchange requests fulfilled as a percentage of properly submitted
                  exchange requests, including exchange alternatives that were offered
                  by the Company as to this Program and subsequently accepted
                  by members 82.7
                  - - - - - -

                  Well, someone better than me can find the ones in between, but I've got beginning and end.
                  - - - - - -

                  RCI Points

                  Subscribers

                  2004 523,517
                  2010 1,481,790


                  Exchanges

                  2004 496,391
                  2010 759,009
                  RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                  • #24
                    Combined Totals

                    2004

                    Subscribers 3,278,221
                    Exchanges 2,608,397
                    Exchanges per subscriber: .795


                    2010

                    Subscribers 3,833,895
                    Exchanges 1,970,901
                    Exchanges per subscriber: .514 (1/2 of the subscribers don't do an exchange)

                    Net decrease in exchanges: 637,496 valued in today's dollars at approx. $125,000,000.

                    From post #10: 1999: 2.7 million exchanges



                    Your mileage may vary.
                    RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                    • #25
                      My first exchange with RCI (back in 1993 I think) cost me a $79 exchange fee (or maybe $75).

                      So although the number of exchanges is down, I doubt that the revenue is down correspondingly based on the higher fees. Add in the new fee to combine points lite and deposit credits on the weeks side, and the ever increasing membership fees, and it still seems like quite the revenue stream to me ...

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                      • #26
                        Seems like I remember $49.

                        Although I am accustomed to a bit of nitpicking , please note my terminology:

                        Your mileage may vary.

                        . . . valued in today's dollars

                        But, yes, the idea is to make more doing less, isn't it?
                        RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                        • #27
                          12-06-2010, 09:35 AM
                          JLB
                          Times banned from Tug 4
                          TS4MS Master - 3000+ Posts! Join Date: Jun 2005
                          Posts: 10,067
                          TS4MS Points: 299,890 [Check]
                          Infractions: 1/0 (0)

                          RCI, LLC Operating Statistics

                          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                          Summary of WYNDHAM WORLDWIDE CORP - Yahoo! Finance


                          Average Number of Members: 2008: 3,670,000 2009: 3,782,000
                          Ann. Dues & Exchange Revenue per Member: 2008: $128.37 2009: $120.22
                          Vacation Rental Transactions: 2008: 1,347,000 2009: 1,356,000
                          Average Net Price per rental: 2008: $463.10 2009: $423.04
                          - - - - - -
                          Number of exchanges 2009: 2,083,280
                          - - - - - -
                          Doing the math, 2009:
                          Income from Dues and Exchanges: $454,672,040
                          Income from Rentals: $573,642,240
                          __________________
                          RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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