Killing The Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs

[jlwquilter Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jlwquilter]

As I just warned Lawren, careful, you are supposed to be happy and allow a brief period of gloating, before the next enhancement du jour.

They say a few of things about history:

1. it is what got us to where we are
2. it repeats itself
3. you gotta learn from it

Pining for the good ole days is the same as reminding folks

I haven't read any gloating. Where are you getting that? Some people said they came out ahead when you asked the question. Honestly answering your question is not gloating.

At least the history reference is good. I can't say that I agree that pining is the same as reminding.

Of course there will be another 'enhancement' at some time. Sooner rather than later is my prediction. Perhaps you will come out ahead for a change and get a chance to gloat. I certainly hope so.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I haven't read any gloating. Where are you getting that? Some people said they came out ahead when you asked the question. Honestly answering your question is not gloating.

At least the history reference is good. I can't say that I agree that pining is the same as reminding.

Of course there will be another 'enhancement' at some time. Sooner rather than later is my prediction. Perhaps you will come out ahead for a change and get a chance to gloat. I certainly hope so.

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[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

They say a few of things about history:

1. it is what got us to where we are
2. it repeats itself
3. you gotta learn from it

Pining for the good ole days is the same as reminding folks

Following your logic, why haven't you learned the lesson yet?

It's never gonna be what you want it to be. You can cry all you want but it is what it is and not what it should be.
Just like alot of things in life.

On that note, I'm off to Disney to stay in my II rental that I got for a steal with an AC at Marriott Grande Vista.
3 bedroom for $333.
How's that for gloating?

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Well, what you have to do individually is more on, which I have done, my three summer weeks in the UK and the OBX are now split between rental, DAE, and SFX. Maybe I will give RCI my South Africa weeks if I can reserve the ones with the higher points lite, but that is still open to considerable as I am allergic to the combining fee and I am not sure if by themselves they would still get me what I want.

The bigger problem is for HOA's which now need to work on mitgrating their members to other exchange companies.

[JWC Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close JWC]

What I can't understand is why would somebody continue to do business with RCI if they aren't happy with them. There are many alternatives. We have owned timeshares for 23+ years and have exchanged every year except for the first year when we used it. We are "weeks only" and have never seen a reason to change as we always get what we want. We started with RCI and II as our resorts were dual affiliated. after a couple years, I canceled RCI because they lied to me. I used II for the next few years and were quite happy with them. However, I wanted an exchange that I couldn't get with them, namely the HGVC/Flamingo in Las Vegas. So I switched to SFX which got it for me. That was over 13 years ago. I have used SFX exclusively ever since. I am also a member of DAE but have never used them. We have had many excellent exchanges at top resorts that were tough trades.

In summary, I have seen NO deterioration at all in our week exchanges. We have 2 excellent exchanges confirmed for 2011 already. The point is why stay with some company that is not giving you what you want. Complaining about them isn't going to change anything. Things evolve over time and the people have to evolve along with it.

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

Well, what you have to do individually is [move] on

This is exactly right. For some folks, making adjustments is the right thing to do. That change could be leaving RCI-Weeks. It could also be selling poor-performing weeks you own and upgrading your portfolio (perhaps also combined with a reduced reliance on RCI-Weeks.)

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

The problem in the industry is that too many ts owners do not have the knowledge that they can do what you did and switch to SFX or another independent exchange company. HOA's need to get that information out. Information is power. We need to encourage our HOA's to do that.

What I can't understand is why would somebody continue to do business with RCI if they aren't happy with them. There are many alternatives. We have owned timeshares for 23+ years and have exchanged every year except for the first year when we used it. We are "weeks only" and have never seen a reason to change as we always get what we want. We started with RCI and II as our resorts were dual affiliated. after a couple years, I canceled RCI because they lied to me. I used II for the next few years and were quite happy with them. However, I wanted an exchange that I couldn't get with them, namely the HGVC/Flamingo in Las Vegas. So I switched to SFX which got it for me. That was over 13 years ago. I have used SFX exclusively ever since. I am also a member of DAE but have never used them. We have had many excellent exchanges at top resorts that were tough trades.

In summary, I have seen NO deterioration at all in our week exchanges. We have 2 excellent exchanges confirmed for 2011 already. The point is why stay with some company that is not giving you what you want. Complaining about them isn't going to change anything. Things evolve over time and the people have to evolve along with it.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Don't worry.

Be happy.

Move on.

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

No. You can worry. You can even be pissed off. But, you should move on.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Just summarizing the last week on TS4Ms:

Don't Worry
Be Happy
Don't Whine
Don't Pine
The solution is in your hands
Life is good
& Life will be good again
You can get what you want
It's a new game
YOU gotta change
Life is too short
You can get out and leave, get out and a keep telling old stories, or stay and play with the new rules
You take it or you leave it or you long for the good old days
The cookie crumbles multiple ways
It could go both ways
What are you waiting for?
Ain't gonna happen any more
Its not gonna get any better
It doesn't really matter what other people are doing
Some won/Some lost/Some both
Move On

[JWC Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close JWC]

There is a fundamental problem with exchanging timeshares regardless of the exchange companies. The vast majority of timeshares are not prime weeks yet most people want to exchange into prime weeks creating a huge imbalance between supply and demand. The system would work quite well if all resorts were Gold Crown, in high demand/low supply locations, and all months were equal. That is not the case. As a result, people with off season weeks, or sub-prime resorts/locations cannot make the exchanges they thought they could because of low trading power. This is NOT the fault of RCI nor any exchange company. It is just the nature of the beast.

Points don't really change that because regardless of what method is used, there is still a huge imbalance between the supply and demand. People with prime weeks will always do pretty well.

The whole idea behind timesharing was that people would stay where they owned. You bought a week at some resort and were guaranteed that you would get that same week every year.

I would never buy a timeshare now because there are so many options available without being obligated to paying maintenance fees, etc.

[JWC Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close JWC]

Just summarizing the last week on TS4Ms:

Don't Worry
Be Happy
Don't Whine
Don't Pine
The solution is in your hands
Life is good
& Life will be good again
You can get what you want
It's a new game
YOU gotta change
Life is too short
You can get out and leave, get out and a keep telling old stories, or stay and play with the new rules
You take it or you leave it or you long for the good old days
The cookie crumbles multiple ways
It could go both ways
What are you waiting for?
Ain't gonna happen any more
Its not gonna get any better
It doesn't really matter what other people are doing
Some won/Some lost/Some both
Move On

Hopefully you have learned something.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I would never buy a timeshare now because there are so many options available without being obligated to paying maintenance fees, etc.

That advice wins for the week(s).

For many years, as the decline declined, I have often said that when it all goes to hell in a handbasket, we will just walk away.

It did.

We didn't.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

The whole idea behind timesharing was that people would stay where they owned. You bought a week at some resort and were guaranteed that you would get that same week every year.

I believe flounder is the word for how that worked out . . . until exchanging breathed life into it, and opened it up to millions.

As for the inherent inequities, I have talked about this week, and concluded the simplest system, First Come First Served was best . . . simply because the reason someone didn't get something would always be the same, and reasonable, they were too late. People are used to that, and accept that.

What some don't accept is someone else constantly screwing around with them.

But, here, let me pick one of the things I've learned . . . Life is too short.

Not bad . . . I did that with my eyes closed.

[JWC Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close JWC]

That advice wins for the week(s).

For many years, as the decline declined, I have often said that when it all goes to hell in a handbasket, we will just walk away.

It did.

We didn't.

We are walking next year. I am just waiting until we use our July 4th 2011 week at our home resort.