A Couple Final Comments

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

I do believe that you have just named the one group that may suffer more than the typical RCI exchange member or HOA in the brave new world.

Well, you know, like cockroaches . . .

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

What you seem to so easily forget is that it was RCI that set up the 45 day window as the candy to attract people to buying off season weeks to trade, and they did it for years. RCI's diretories had a double page spread promoting it. RCI's promo films and other materials provided to developers promoted it. Of course developers sold it that way. Now RCI moves a different direction and leaves the HOA's hold the bag. RCI has effectively sandbagged its resort affiliates. Do you content that this is moral or ethical behavior by RCI? At that juncture, the developer is long gone, and the HOA has no sales staff resell these weeks. If RCI had never promoted things that way,the developer would have been compelled to find another way to market those weeks, and HOA's would not have been left holding the bag. Do you think RCI should just get a pass for that?

I have posted several times about strategies that some OBX resorts are using to market off season weeks to non-exchangers, and I agree that HOA's need to be proactive to get themselves unstuck from the RCI tar baby. That also means working to migrate their shoulder and high season exchangers to other exchange companies as well.

Actually, one resort I traded into in the UK had adopted a plan to promote rentals of members weeks for them that seemed to be working quite well. The reason they started that was that after RCI cranked up its rental to the public scheme, suddenly owners at this resort were not seeing the types of exchanges they had been used to for years and were complaining to their HOA. So that resort rental program was started as a response to RCI's rental program.

Back in 1995-2000 I didn't own TS and paid $900 a week for a comparable unit on the beach so those MF's don't seem unreasonable to me. For years LaHaina and Little Gull was my beach pad at those prices so I was part of the solution in helping those resorts stay solvent.

Carolinian, this is what resorts need to do, not blame RCI. Help owners rent their weeks. My beach resort helps their owners rent their weeks if they want that service. I know several people who have rented their units for just over MF's directly with the resort. Demonizing RCI doesn't solve any issues with HOA's. It's so easy to pass the buck.

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

Hmmm! RCI as a cargo cult! No wonder some will sit back and take whatever RCI dishes out in self-serving changes, rentals of exchange deposits, or whatever.

I guess this is supposed to be an insult to my intelligence.
That's okay because I'm obviously a much happier person than you and I think I'll stay that way.

I thank my real God (not the RCI gods) for the blessing he bestows on my vacation plans whether they are thru RCI or any other route that he chooses. I am truly a blessed and happy person.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Common sense:

Think of all the owned weeks in the entire system, where the big numbers of them are.

How many do you think got jilted relative to how many got annointed with grace . . . in the entire system? 10 to 1? 50 to 1? 100 to 1? 500 to 1?

Take a look at the areas with the really huge number of timeshares, the nice resorts, and plug some weeks in the calculator.

C'mon, what do y'all think the spurned are going to do?

Somewhere down the line someone is gonna be looking for work when the dust settles.

JMHO.

In other words, how many of these:

Maximum Trading Power 54
Maximum Trading Power 60

are there relative to these:

Maximum Trading Power 8

and how will these:

Maximum Trading Power 8

Take that?

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

In the words of Kathy Griffin, "You can boo me now. C'mon, boo me."

[Bourne Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bourne]

In other words, how many of these:

Maximum Trading Power 54
Maximum Trading Power 60
are there relative to these:
Maximum Trading Power 8

That is something I can tell...

Bottomline, 23 and under will see almost 95% of inventory.

Low High Total Units % % Overall
1 10 62782 43.30%
11 14 29890 20.62% 63.92%
15 18 27229 18.78% 82.70%
19 23 17555 12.11% 94.81%
23 32 7011 4.84% 99.64%
33 60 519 0.36%
144986

Okay...crappy cut and paste but you get the idea...

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

That is something I can tell...

Bottomline, 23 and under will see almost 95% of inventory.

Low High Total Units % % Overall
1 10 62782 43.30%
11 14 29890 20.62% 63.92%
15 18 27229 18.78% 82.70%
19 23 17555 12.11% 94.81%
23 32 7011 4.84% 99.64%
33 60 519 0.36%
144986

Okay...crappy cut and paste but you get the idea...

gotta link, to cite your source?

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Oh yeah, another revelation . . . far too much has been devoted to 5% of my mortal time.

[ace2000 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ace2000]

Oh yeah, another revelation . . . far too much has been devoted to 5% of my mortal time.

JLB - I thought the title of this thread was A Couple of Final Comments ????

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

Oh yeah, another revelation . . . far too much has been devoted to 5% of my mortal time.

Well glad to see you're finally putting it all in perspective.

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

JLB - I thought the title of this thread was A Couple of Final Comments ????

Well that might have been his initial intent but you know we can't resist egging him on.

[bnoble Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bnoble]

I guess this is supposed to be an insult

If you don't agree with Carolinian 100%, then you are quickly labeled a member of The RCI Can Do No Wrong Club. It turns out to be a rather large Club, as you can imagine.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

JLB - I thought the title of this thread was A Couple of Final Comments ????

Narrow minds travel the same path, as that was exactly what I was thinking (in the shower).

Those who know me, really know me, know why I chose to word the topic that way.
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FWIW, which I do not believe is much, a 19 will get 85% of available exchanges.

What, exactly, that means is yet to be seen.

It does mean 85% of Weeks members now have to pay more than one maintenance fee, plus a combine fee, to get some exchanges (when they were led to believe they could get them all).

Ka-ching!

That's a huge percentage that have just had the price at least double on them (disregarding change back).

Time will tell how that sets with them, whether they will settlefor, or just what.

[ace2000 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ace2000]

Well that might have been his initial intent but you know we can't resist egging him on.

Only giving him a hard time, because... well, because he would be giving us a hard time...

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

If you don't agree with Carolinian 100%, then you are quickly labeled a member of The RCI Can Do No Wrong Club. It turns out to be a rather large Club, as you can imagine.

Yes I see that but I'm tough skinned and being a Disney fanatic like you I've learned that there are a gazillion TS's at the happiest place on earth and that RCI gets me here (I'm at Grande Vista & Vistana this week) for a great price. As long as that continues, I've got nothing to complain about.

Maybe RCI will read this thread and offer me a job.
Then I can quit nursing and run their Orlando operation.