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  • #16
    For now I am taking the option . . . none of the above.
    So....what are you going to do? Presumably you're not just going to pay MFs on weeks and never use them again, nor will you simply stop paying the MFs and allow them to go into foreclosure.

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    • #17
      Just another option. For now. If I talk about it, it might not work, and if it works, I won't talk about it.

      BTW, foreclosure is for loans that don't get paid, isn't it? We don't owe anything on anything.
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      Unrelated, we have been in the nightly rental program at Slimey Slough, and we do rent our Mugwumps, cuz RCI doesn't get em.

      Well, they've as much as said they don't want em, so . . .
      RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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      • #18
        I would assume that, eventually, the liens against a deed for unpaid MFs could eventually lead to a foreclosure, but I'm not a legal eagle.

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        • #19
          Digressing, but related to my recent revelation that 100% of our trades will require at least 2 deposits, I'm thinking the idea of uptrading may be way over-rated.

          First, even what has been denounced as a crappy deposit, like ours or Lawren's, can see 85% of available exchanges. I question just how many uptrades will be available after the folks who have been annointed take their share of them 1-for-1. Generally speaking, those who got the most TPUs are the people who have been getting most of the better exchanges all along, don't you think? So, first, far out, they will take what they have been taking.

          Second, if a person has grown accustomed to lesser exchanges using lesser deposits like, quite frankly, we were the first few years, perhaps because they, like we, don't/didn't know any better, how likely is it they will ante up another deposit? Putting it into perspective, let's say they have had $800 wrapped up in an exchange all along. How excited is the average person gonna be to ante up $1400 or $1500, and how often?

          I think a lot of sizzle is being used to sell not much steak. or, another way, if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with b------t.
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          If what you don't know can't hurt you, most timeshare owners will live forever.
          RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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          • #20
            Originally posted by JLB View Post
            For now I am taking the option . . . none of the above.
            Now why am I not surprised.

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            • #21
              Now that I have looked into it a bit further, RCI actually agrees with me, that our most recent trades in SW FL, including the two next month are, in fact, comparable.

              I say this because what we are giving and what we are getting both get the same amount for depositing.

              However, RCI jacks it up to trade into it, forcing it to take two deposits.
              RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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              • #22
                Originally posted by JLB
                Second, if a person has grown accustomed to lesser exchanges using lesser deposits like, quite frankly, we were the first few years, perhaps because they, like we, don't/didn't know any better, how likely is it they will ante up another deposit? Putting it into perspective, let's say they have had $800 wrapped up in an exchange all along. How excited is the average person gonna be to ante up $1400 or $1500, and how often?
                I noticed this, almost exactly, was said elsewhere, and by someone who also posts here.
                RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by JLB
                  Now that I have looked into it a bit further, RCI actually agrees with me, that our most recent trades in SW FL, including the two next month are, in fact, comparable.

                  I say this because what we are giving and what we are getting both get the same amount for depositing.

                  However, RCI jacks it up to trade into it, forcing it to take two deposits.
                  I have noticed this in several instances. VERY frustrating. I pulled a deposit because even at maximum deposit value it wasn't given enough trading power for me to trade back into my own week.

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                  • #24
                    I know it's redundant and those who don't care are tired of hearing it, but now is when we need to take note of these inconsistencies, because right now, for the first time, there is a court order requiring fair performance.

                    If they cheat and gouge now, while under an order, imagine (not the John Lennon kind) what they will do in two years.

                    Charging more to trade in than giving credit for depositing, forcing a second deposit to be used to trade, is gouging.

                    Doubling, or more, the cost every trade a customer has/will made/make is gouging.
                    RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Glitter Brunello
                      . . . at maximum deposit value it wasn't given enough trading power for me to trade back into my own week.
                      I'd check ours, but weeks we deposit get taken.

                      Change that . . . I found one we get 22 to deposit & it costs 26 to trade in.
                      RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Glitter Brunello
                        I have noticed this in several instances. VERY frustrating. I pulled a deposit because even at maximum deposit value it wasn't given enough trading power for me to trade back into my own week.
                        Originally posted by JLB
                        I'd check ours, but weeks we deposit get taken.

                        Change that . . . I found one we get 22 to deposit & it costs 26 to trade in.
                        Out of all the howling, yowling and hair pulling since the institution of Points Lite THIS is the one thing that I find that all of us can yell FOUL about.

                        I would much rather have gotten less currency and been able to pull my OWN week than see this gouging done by RCI. LIKE for LIKE. If it is deposited and you are given a credit of x points then the exchange should never cost x + y. It is unfathomable to me how they can legally and while under watch get away with this.

                        I like GB's answer of course, but I would like an official answer as well.
                        Lawren
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                        There are many wonderful places in the world, but one of my favourite places is on the back of my horse.
                        - Rolf Kopfle

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                        • #27
                          Slimy SZlough

                          Don't onpow about Mugwamp, but Slimy Slough was a product of better days at TUG, along with boiled pizza and my hog farm.


                          Originally posted by Marti View Post
                          Never heard of them
                          Are these timeshares resorts in
                          Des Moines or Branson Missouri
                          M. Henley

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by M. Henley
                            Don't onpow about Mugwamp, but Slimy Slough was a product of better days at TUG, along with boiled pizza and my hog farm.
                            Where?
                            RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by lawren2
                              Out of all the howling, yowling and hair pulling since the institution of Points Lite THIS is the one thing that I find that all of us can yell FOUL about.
                              Out of all that, and some of the sniping about Mugwump and Slimey, even by some on the other side, the amazing thing about today is that all along RCI agreed that we have been getting even trades, especially the most recent and current ones . . . now that we can see what they think they know.

                              Up until now, it was just uninformed people blabbing about crappy deposits getting uptrades.

                              Of course, even though I now know they agreed they were even trades, and still are, they have fixed it so they aren't.

                              And, of course, despite the facts, some are still talking about crappy deposits getting uptrades.
                              RCI Member Since 24-Aug-1989/150-plus Exchanges***THE TIMESHARE GRIM REAPER~~~Exchanging/Searching/SW Florida/MO/AR/IA/Consumer Advocacy/Estate Planning/Sports/Boating/Fishing/Golf/Lake-living/Retirement****Sometimes ya just gotta be a dick

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                              • #30
                                When Marriott rolled out the new destination club and assigned points to weeks owned, they incorporated a "skim" whereby the points you received for your week if deposited with the Destination Club would only book you 5-6 days in your own resort and season. This "skim" has been the focus of most of the anger towards Marriott due to its blatant violation of the fairness principle. When RCI charges more TPU than it gives for the identical week this is an analogous "skim", and clearly unfair.

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