RCI Humor

[Bourne Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bourne]

That's a little better than letting newbies think they can just buy in Branson and trade anywhere, any time.

Save that spiel for the sales weasels.

Depending on what you call spiel.

In my book, making a blanket statement that RCI sucks is spiel.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

In my book, making a blanket statement that RCI sucks is spiel.

Yes, Mr. Bum should be ashamed of himself:

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...ice-versa.html

& this hit-and-run person:

http://www.timeshareforums.com/forum...happy-2.html:(

[Bourne Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bourne]

I know I'm slow, but let me see if I have it figured out. Before TPUs, you could deposit both sides and get TWO exchanges.

Now you can get 45 TPUs and get ONE crappy 1-bedroom not on the beach in SW FL in Snowbird Season (if you are lucky), and have a few points left over.

Marco Island FL, 34145
1 Bedroom
31-Mar-2012
Exchange Trading Power
34

Again to each his own.

I said..
1. I could make two decent trades with 4067 lock-offs.
2. I could use Priority to get monster trades. Already clarified that that option is gone.
3. I never stated that I could get Florida Gulf Coast. Even though I live in the midwest, I'm not a snow bird. Orlando/School calendar is my life.

Not that I have used it this way because the 55+/40+ TPU lock-off generator handles my major trades, but I'll humor you.

Prerequisites.
1. I own 4067 2Br Lock - off
2. I spend $475 in maintenance fee.
3. I have small kids in tow and life revolves around Mickey/Dells as I live in the Midwest.

Before.
1. 1Br - I could go to Dells in spring.- Wyndham Tamarack/Glacier Canyon...
2. 1Br - I could get a HGVC 2Br during the late summer holidays. Used to it as I owned there before.
3. I could not get Hawaii or South Florida Gulf Coast far out for decent resort. Either book a crummy resort or hope for a cancellation.

Now.
1. Deposit 1(24 TPU)
2. Deposit 2(22 TPU)

Taking today's data as an example. ..i.e. One had tied to my back

1. I can book Wyndham Tamarack for Prez Day(Exchange Fee 7) Which I do today.
2. I can book HGVC 2 Bedrooms 27-Aug-2011 before the school starts after Labor day (Exchange Fee 12)

But hey, I still have 24 & 2 still intact.

3. The kicker is that for 24, I can get Aug 20-27 at Marco/Sanibel/Captiva making it a 2 week vacation. (Which I done with other means till now..)
4. Or I could go to Hawaii
5. And I still have 2-4 pts left. Can still get another week around the midwest in off season.


And I have not paid any extra fees. No merge.. nothing... moved the dates around a bit to squeeze in another week or two of vacation at no extra cost but exchange fees.

What am I doing wrong here. W.E.D.

[bellesgirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bellesgirl]

Next to Branson, probably the most maligned area is Orlando. That is where I own and I am thrilled with the new system.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Next to Branson, probably the most maligned area is Orlando. That is where I own and I am thrilled with the new system.

Nice to hear that. How do your past exchanges fare. Can you still get them all with one deposit?

[chriskre Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close chriskre]

Nice to hear that. How do your past exchanges fare. Can you still get them all with one deposit?

Jim, you're missing the whole point of points.
It gives you options you didn't have before. I know, I know, I sound
like a cheerleader for RCI but I do think it has brought options that weren't
there before. Especially for those of us who own no name TS's that will occasionally deposit when we don't use them.

What is wrong with having options?

I like knowing that my hurricane week mugwumpy converted motel on the beach can get me into a deluxe unit with 1-1/4 years of MF's.
Still not a bad deal compared to paying retail prices for renting.

Nooooo, you can't do what you've been doing all these years. I doubt
you're gonna change RCI, even if there is another lawsuit to stop the transparency.
You just gotta start vacationing somewhere other than SW Florida in midwinter or start visiting in the summer when the trades are great.

Now just like you love SW Florida, I love Disney, so that's usually my exchange goal if I'm gonna exchange from now on.

I'll give you my example:
Old 50's converted motel on Southeast FL beach. MF's $450.
20 to 21 TPU's for a 2 bedroom mid summer week #30 & 36 (Labor Day).
My trade goal is DVC 2 bedroom any week. 25 TPU's.
So for $450 + 1/4 of $450 or total MF's of $562 plus $190 exchange fee and $100 Disney BS fee, I can get into Disney in a 2 bedroom.
True cost of this week is $852.

Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort and Spa (#DV06)

2 Bedrooms 8 (6) Full Sat 20-Aug-2011 Sat 27-Aug-2011 Exchange Fee 25
2 Bedrooms 8 (6) Full Sun 21-Aug-2011 Sun 28-Aug-2011 Exchange Fee 25
2 Bedrooms 8 (6) Full Sun 28-Aug-2011 Sun 04-Sep-2011 Exchange Fee 25

I happen to also own DVC points and my home resort is SSR.
That stay if I use my DVC points is 285 points. I pay $700 MF's for 150 points so $4.67 a point. 285 points times $4.67 a point is $1330.00 to do that stay with my DVC points, so in essence it would cost me almost 2 years of points to do this one stay.

So $852 using RCI or $1330 using DVC. A $478 savings. That's alot of clams.
I could never have do this exchange in II or even with the old weeks system.
Now you know why I'm doing the happy dance with RCI.

Even with this I've got change coming to me. So 15-17 points left over to book something else like this:

Disney's Vero Beach Resort (#DV07) 1 available units
Vero Beach
FL, 32963
USA
map resort Available Unit Size
2 Bedroom Check-In Date 18-Sep-2011 Exchange Trading Power 16

Again 16 points represents $336 of MF's plus $190 exchange fee.
No $100 BS fee at this resort.
So for $526 I can stay in a 2 bedroom in Vero beach with RCI.

So I've got 2 weeks for my 2 weeks with exchanges.
Maybe they are not one for one exchanges but certainly trade ups.
In DVC this stay would cost me 238 DVC points.
That represents 238 X 4.67 a point = $1,111
So it would cost me twice as much to use DVC.
Why would I do that?

This is why not all of us hate RCI.

They are actually doing me a big favor by switching to points.
I was using PFD with RCI points anyway to do the same thing except that I was blocked from DVC because my RCI points resort is in Orlando.
So RCI made it easier.

So total cost to do 2 weeks in a deluxe DVC unit at both resorts is $1380.
That's not bad for 2 weeks in a 2 bedroom in real nice resorts.
In contrast my MF's would be 523 DVC points X 4.67 = $2442.
$2442 - $1380 = $1,062 and that's not even factoring in the fact that I paid $15K to buy into DVC and only $1.00 to buy my motel converted week.

Truly, I've got nothing to complain about with the new RCI.

PS these two trades would use up 3-1/2 years of my DVC points to get only 2weeks that are comparable to what I'm getting with RCI.

I know I'm not the only one benefiting from going to Points Lite.

[bellesgirl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bellesgirl]

Nice to hear that. How do your past exchanges fare. Can you still get them all with one deposit?

Actually, I can get 2-3 with some deposits and less than one with others. Overall I can probably get 3 of my past exchanges for 2 deposits. As chriske says, it evens out.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Actually, I can get 2-3 with some deposits and less than one with others. Overall I can probably get 3 of my past exchanges for 2 deposits. As chriske says, it evens out.

Thanks.

[JLB Please excuse me, I'm a Dick. Not a moron just a Dick Find all posts View Profile Close JLB]

Time Will Tell

As I've said, because of the nature of the beast, some will have come out ahead and some not.

By the poll and by comments, a significant number have not, and are talking about not giving deposits to RCI that they used to.

Time will tell if they follow through with that, and what effect it will have on those who appear to have come out ahead (for now).
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A separate thought . . . under the settlement agreement, RCI is obligated to make deposits made more than a year in advance available as exchanges only for 31 days after deposit. Under the new system, that is when they are most expensive and least likely to be taken as exchanges. After that they can be offered as rentals, which make RCI more money.

It is logical that RCI will do that, offer them as exchanges for 31 days (if they do), and then we will not see the better ones until, and only if, they do not get rented. (That is likely already the case).

Then, two years from now, all that is off, and deposits can go straight to rentals.
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Time will tell the combined effect of lost lost deposits and increased rentals.
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In any event, back to the OP, whether you came out ahead or not, it is deceptive and misleading for RCI to say "Combine deposits to get exchanges you previously could not," without saying the other side of the story, "Combine deposits to get the same exchanges you used to."

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Still crying here

The good old days of RCI were much kinder to us dog week owners. I guess it's a good thing that we will be able to enjoy winter in Florida in our new(to us) mobile home. We'll head down next month to try it out!

Dori

It is not just dog weeks. When RCI moved the goalposts, a fair number of tigers got declawed. And a fair number of overbult dime-a-dozen weeks got puffed up. The new numbers system bears little resemblence to supply and demand. That is why it sux big time.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

What you are missing is that Points Lite takes away options, devalues high demand locations, and puffs up overbuilt areas. Trading within a range gave us more valuable options that a stinking exact number system.

Jim, you're missing the whole point of points.
It gives you options you didn't have before. I know, I know, I sound
like a cheerleader for RCI but I do think it has brought options that weren't
there before. Especially for those of us who own no name TS's that will occasionally deposit when we don't use them.

What is wrong with having options?

I like knowing that my hurricane week mugwumpy converted motel on the beach can get me into a deluxe unit with 1-1/4 years of MF's.
Still not a bad deal compared to paying retail prices for renting.

Nooooo, you can't do what you've been doing all these years. I doubt
you're gonna change RCI, even if there is another lawsuit to stop the transparency.
You just gotta start vacationing somewhere other than SW Florida in midwinter or start visiting in the summer when the trades are great.

Now just like you love SW Florida, I love Disney, so that's usually my exchange goal if I'm gonna exchange from now on.

I'll give you my example:
Old 50's converted motel on Southeast FL beach. MF's $450.
20 to 21 TPU's for a 2 bedroom mid summer week #30 & 36 (Labor Day).
My trade goal is DVC 2 bedroom any week. 25 TPU's.
So for $450 + 1/4 of $450 or total MF's of $562 plus $190 exchange fee and $100 Disney BS fee, I can get into Disney in a 2 bedroom.
True cost of this week is $852.

Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort and Spa (#DV06)

2 Bedrooms 8 (6) Full Sat 20-Aug-2011 Sat 27-Aug-2011 Exchange Fee 25
2 Bedrooms 8 (6) Full Sun 21-Aug-2011 Sun 28-Aug-2011 Exchange Fee 25
2 Bedrooms 8 (6) Full Sun 28-Aug-2011 Sun 04-Sep-2011 Exchange Fee 25

I happen to also own DVC points and my home resort is SSR.
That stay if I use my DVC points is 285 points. I pay $700 MF's for 150 points so $4.67 a point. 285 points times $4.67 a point is $1330.00 to do that stay with my DVC points, so in essence it would cost me almost 2 years of points to do this one stay.

So $852 using RCI or $1330 using DVC. A $478 savings. That's alot of clams.
I could never have do this exchange in II or even with the old weeks system.
Now you know why I'm doing the happy dance with RCI.

Even with this I've got change coming to me. So 15-17 points left over to book something else like this:

Disney's Vero Beach Resort (#DV07) 1 available units
Vero Beach
FL, 32963
USA
map resort Available Unit Size
2 Bedroom Check-In Date 18-Sep-2011 Exchange Trading Power 16

Again 16 points represents $336 of MF's plus $190 exchange fee.
No $100 BS fee at this resort.
So for $526 I can stay in a 2 bedroom in Vero beach with RCI.

So I've got 2 weeks for my 2 weeks with exchanges.
Maybe they are not one for one exchanges but certainly trade ups.
In DVC this stay would cost me 238 DVC points.
That represents 238 X 4.67 a point = $1,111
So it would cost me twice as much to use DVC.
Why would I do that?

This is why not all of us hate RCI.

They are actually doing me a big favor by switching to points.
I was using PFD with RCI points anyway to do the same thing except that I was blocked from DVC because my RCI points resort is in Orlando.
So RCI made it easier.

So total cost to do 2 weeks in a deluxe DVC unit at both resorts is $1380.
That's not bad for 2 weeks in a 2 bedroom in real nice resorts.
In contrast my MF's would be 523 DVC points X 4.67 = $2442.
$2442 - $1380 = $1,062 and that's not even factoring in the fact that I paid $15K to buy into DVC and only $1.00 to buy my motel converted week.

Truly, I've got nothing to complain about with the new RCI.

PS these two trades would use up 3-1/2 years of my DVC points to get only 2weeks that are comparable to what I'm getting with RCI.

I know I'm not the only one benefiting from going to Points Lite.

[Carolinian Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Carolinian]

Next to Branson, probably the most maligned area is Orlando. That is where I own and I am thrilled with the new system.

Yeah, the overbuilt areas, which are extremely easy to trade into have been overpointed, so of course owners there would be thrilled. Those of us who own in areas that you can rarely trade into any time of year, or who like to trade into those type of areas, which have been systematically UNDERpointed, understandably think the new regime stinks. Orlando is not ''maligned''. It is a simple matter of the cold hard facts of supply and demand. Orlando, Williamsburg, the Canary Islands. and Massanutten are nice places to go, just overbuilt in timeshare. An honest exchagne system would reflect that.